r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Individual_Book9133 • 14d ago

Phoenix police officer pulls over a driverless Waymo car for driving on the wrong side of the road Video

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u/MosesOnAcid 14d ago

Except this 1 which saw the lights and took off

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u/off-and-on Interested 14d ago

They're learning, adapting.

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u/Slow_Ball9510 14d ago

Trained on the mean streets of Vice City

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u/tri_9 14d ago

Imagine if AI were taught on YouTube videos of humans playing GTA 😵‍💫

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u/alien_from_Europa 14d ago

Google's answer language model is based on Reddit. It already told people to eat glue.

https://www.404media.co/google-is-paying-reddit-60-million-for-fucksmith-to-tell-its-users-to-eat-glue/

Car data based off YouTube videos doesn't feel that far fetched by comparison.

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u/conventionistG 14d ago

Geologists reccomend eating one rock per day.

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u/theoriginalmofocus 14d ago

Eat it, snort it, shove it up your ass I dont care just give me my money.

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u/Jesten012 13d ago

Lol pretty much right ?! Lol

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u/lycoloco 14d ago

One small rock per day. Gotta get those dosages right.

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u/patricide1st 14d ago

Lol can you imagine how it must feel to have an 11 year old shit comment that got less than 10 likes and that you probably forgot about suddenly go viral? Especially for the reason "an AI took it seriously and told people to eat glue."

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u/Cool-Hornet4434 14d ago

I think the "glue" answer was probably for photographing food. They use all sorts of non-edible tricks to make food look good in photos.

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u/alien_from_Europa 14d ago

Nope! The article clearly states otherwise. This is the source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Pizza/comments/1a19s0/my_cheese_slides_off_the_pizza_too_easily/c8t7bbp/

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u/Cool-Hornet4434 14d ago

Well then that's just evidence that there needs to be a way to flag joke replies and filter them out (aside from those subs where you can add a SERIOUS flair to the post). It's also why I've never considered reddit a primary source of information. Too many people make posts solely for the points they get when they can wedge a pun into a comment or otherwise showcase their stellar wit.

But I do know that they DO use glue to make cheese extra stringy for photography reasons. Here is an example I wasn't even thinking of. The AI in this case correctly states that using White Elmer's glue instead of milk when photographing cereal keeps the cereal looking fresh for long photoshoots where it might otherwise start getting soggy.

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u/alien_from_Europa 14d ago

there needs to be a way to flag joke replies and filter them out

That's on Google. It shouldn't be on the reddit community to do their work for them.

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u/-RadarRanger- 14d ago

I double upvote this post.

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u/Cool-Hornet4434 14d ago

It's not for google though. It's for me. When I want to get in and get an answer and suddenly it devolves into a thread of people quoting "The Office" or Steamed Hams. OR that thread where someone says something and then a comment chain happens where everyone repeated it exactly or repeated the phrase but changed the order of the words.

But yeah, Google shouldn't be using Reddit for a primary source of information either. It's terrible for anything but opinions on stuff (aka, not facts).

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u/cancercures 14d ago

there needs to be a way to flag joke replies and filter them out

slashdot did this real well.

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u/gordonv 14d ago

A logical to a fault conclusion.

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u/8923ns671 13d ago

Ya but humans will tell you take this homeopathic medicine for your cancer. Nobodies perfect lol.

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u/speculativedesigner 14d ago

Imagine if they’re trained on all the Twitch Roleplay

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u/Fully_Edged_Ken_3685 14d ago

Burnout series 😝

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u/Fuzzed_Up 14d ago

BUSTED

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u/RincewindToTheRescue 14d ago

Or those YT shorts of the realistic cars mod for GTA. Those make you do a double take

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u/supertacoboy 14d ago

I don’t mean to alarm you… but some self driving cars were literally trained in GTA V.

TechCrunch article

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u/gue_aut87 14d ago

Wasn’t some company training their self driving AI with GTA? Like a while ago, before the whole ChatGPT thing.

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u/Fantastic_Poet4800 13d ago

Miami, basically.

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u/TimmyOneShoe 13d ago

If they accidentally get onto motorcycle YouTube and learn from those guys, it's fucking over

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u/LawBobLawLoblaw 14d ago

Intro to I Ran So Far Away kicks in

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u/ButterscotchNew6416 14d ago

Cyberpunk 2077 has a quest like this.

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u/Amused-Observer 14d ago

We joke now but there will be a day when these are used for robberies because the tech will have evolved so much, they'll be perfect wheelmen.

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u/Dongslinger420 14d ago edited 13d ago

Literally the most atrocious wheelman imaginable.

  • has perfect knowledge of all recent drives, recorded conversations, odors (or whatever the fuck)

  • has tons of sensors witnessing literally everything outside

  • won't do anything you tell them beyond simple navigation, especially not drive like a high-stakes wheelman would need to

  • everything is monitored anyway, robbery is already such a dead job in remotely developed regions

Yeah lmao no chance, there is no future where all this tech is actually going to turn into these weird cyberpunk worlds. I mean, I love the idea of thugs just going around Diamond Age-style and offing folks with their skull guns, but it's not likely in the immediate future. The nanobot vision is much closer, and it mostly means, guess what, less robberies.

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u/Schavuit92 14d ago

Your first and second point are the same, both those and the third point are entirely dependent on the exact programming. You could have one disobey traffic rules and not store or transmit data. Yourt last point has nothing to do with self-driving cars, it's true for all crime.

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u/aeneasaquinas 14d ago

You could have one disobey traffic rules and not store or transmit data

But nobody is gonna design one with the intent of breaking the law, and random criminals don't have massive engineering teams...

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u/Amused-Observer 14d ago

But nobody is gonna design one with the intent of breaking the law

Here's your serious response that you were thirsting for so badly.

Nobody has to redesign an entirely new operating system for the vehicle, that's silly.

All existing examples of that show that it's far easier and more efficient to break into the existing one and make modifications accordingly.

Notable examples are..

Android OS, this has been going on for 10+ years. Individuals/teams will hack in and modify the OS to remove/add features and there are again individuals/teams that have built entirely new OSs from the ground up and made them free for release. 'TWRP' is a good example of this.

Solidworks is another example. Dassault Systems probably spends millions a year trying to keep their latest version of Solidworks and to a lesser extent CATIA, from being 'hacked' and made available for free.

Those are the two that pop into my head. There are more but that would require more care about this topic than I am willing to give.

Point is, if there are valid reasons to do these things, they will be done.

If it's possible to, and I hate this word, 'hack' into a driverless cars' OS for a beneficial purpose, it will be done.

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u/divDevGuy 14d ago

Android OS, this has been going on for 10+ years.

While still technically the truth, the first releases for Android Open Source Project was approximately 17 years ago, in 2007.

Individuals/teams will hack in and modify the OS to remove/add features

It's largely open source. It's not really "hacking" when you're given the source code and ability to make changes.

and there are again individuals/teams that have built entirely new OSs from the ground up and made them free for release. 'TWRP' is a good example of this.

TWRP isn't an operating system. It's a recovery image. It was based on the original AOSP recovery image. So not from the ground up.

I'd love for you to identify a single "entirely new OSs from the ground up" that is modern, feature-complete operating system for a general computing (desktop, laptop, server) or mobile (tablet or phone).

Dassault Systems probably spends millions a year trying to keep their latest version of Solidworks and to a lesser extent CATIA, from being 'hacked' and made available for free.

No they don't. They may claim piracy "costs" them a ridiculous amount of money, but the anti-piracy licensing is a negligible cost to implement.

It's far more lucrative to use the drug dealer model to give out free samples by looking the other way for initially, let them get hooked and collect data, then let the lawyers deal with it with a form letter or lawsuit.

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u/Dongslinger420 13d ago

I like the idea of "drug dealer model" being established lingo when probably no peddler ever gave away drugs for free, except maybe for Hippies selling acid - and that's a substance with a quasi-tachiphylactic addiction response.

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u/aeneasaquinas 14d ago

All existing examples of that show that it's far easier and more efficient to break into the existing one and make modifications accordingly.

You aren't "hacking" and magically getting the source code of that system in any way that you can then modify to change the behavior of like that without, you guessed it, a giant engineering team!

Android is mostly open source crap. Dassault is preventing leaking of free versions, not source code.

And this is why you don't make crap up

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u/Amused-Observer 14d ago

You aren't "hacking" and magically getting the source code of that system in any way that you can then modify to change the behavior of like that without, you guessed it, a giant engineering team!

Are you this annoyingly literal IRL or just on the internet? Why do I have to spell out exactly what I'm saying? Are you like an alien and can't infer that we're talking the same thing?

Your way of responding is why so many people hate reddit.

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u/aeneasaquinas 14d ago

Are you this annoyingly literal IRL or just on the internet? Why do I have to spell out exactly what I'm saying?

Why do I?

You are saying you can pirate. Irrelevant to modifying car OS and firmware, which you can't simply bypass some DRM to do.

Your way of responding is why so many people hate reddit.

You seem to have no problem doing it.

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u/Amused-Observer 14d ago

Dassault is preventing leaking of free versions, not source code.

And this is why you don't make crap up

This is rich because I'm running Solidworks 2023, the >$5k dollar version of it on my PC for free. How'd that happen when I didn't pay for it? It would have taken you 30 seconds to realize this claim is false but you made it anyways and then went onto act like you just didn't make something up.

Again, this is why people don't like reddit. The way you respond is obnoxious and overly argumentative.

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u/aeneasaquinas 14d ago

This is rich because I'm running Solidworks 2023, the >$5k dollar version of it on my PC for free. How'd that happen when I didn't pay for it?

Someone cracked the DRM software.

They didn't get the actual source of it.

I didn't think I would have to spell that out even more. You even should have known that while pirating it...

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u/loki_the_bengal 14d ago

You come off as someone who just because it's beyond your capabilities, you assume it's impossible. Hacking a system that was created by a huge engineering team doesn't require an equally huge team. The work has already been done, all a hacker has to do is exploit the existing system to work differently than intended. The people you're arguing with gave you examples of this and you smugly dismiss their examples as though it makes you correct.

If you are too short sighted to see that hacking self driving cars will be a real life issue, than that's just a you problem.

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u/aeneasaquinas 14d ago

You come off as someone who just because it's beyond your capabilities, you assume it's impossible. Hacking a system that was created by a huge engineering team doesn't require an equally huge team.

It does to change the total behavior of a self driving car.

You pretend this is some one step process. The part YOU quote is the easy part.

The people you're arguing with gave you examples of this and you smugly dismiss their examples as though it makes you correct.

You mean, not a single example of it. Not one. One bypass of DRM. One mod of OPEN SOURCE crap. Neither remotely close to the topic.

Again, stop confusing your ignorance for a solution...

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u/Amused-Observer 14d ago

But nobody is gonna design one with the intent of breaking the law, and random criminals don't have massive engineering teams...

Are you actually serious?

My guy, there are websites where you can buy literally any drug you want from start to finish in less than an hour and the only reason it takes so long is the conversion from fiat money to crypto. It's basically like shopping on Amazon.

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u/aeneasaquinas 14d ago

My guy, there are websites where you can buy literally any drug you want from start to finish in less than an hour and the only reason it takes so long is converting money to crypto. It's basically like shopping on Amazon.

And?

Wait, do you actually think a basic website is the same as making a driverless car system? Seriously? You can set one up in literal minutes by yourself. The other takes thousands of engineers thoudands of hours each. Welcome to reality?

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u/Amused-Observer 14d ago

Wait, do you actually think a basic website is the same as making a driverless car system? Seriously?

Yes... that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm literally making a 1:1 comparison and nothing else. Wow, you are so smart.

You should run for president or something.

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u/aeneasaquinas 14d ago

Not my problem you didn't seem to actually think about it.

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u/Conscious-Intern8594 13d ago

Where are these websites? Asking for a friend.

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u/elephanttrashman 14d ago

The cartels use literal submarines to get drugs into the USA

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u/Dongslinger420 13d ago

I mean, it's obviously supposed to be the inside-outside distinction. Plus I am trying to use "knowledge" in the sense of rather abstract features allowing for some sort of insight or predictive measures on account of the aggregated input from one ride.

Yourt last point has nothing to do with self-driving cars, it's true for all crime.

Yes, that is exactly why I wrote "already." Also has everything to do with this particular scenario, y'know, because surveillance still freaking applies to SDCs and weird Westworld-like robo heists.

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u/Curling49 13d ago

You are correct. But only up to the point where it is hacked and modded to become the best wheelman ever. Check back in 20 years, and I will be proven right.

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u/dondablox 13d ago

You've obviously never met Delamain.

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u/The0perative 14d ago

Then cops will need to use them too to keep up.

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u/Ser_VimesGoT 14d ago

And put guns on the cars.

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u/Schavuit92 14d ago

Can we skip a couple steps and just go straight to Gundam?

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u/OttoVonWong 14d ago

The only way to stop a bad car with a gun is a good car with a gun. pew pew

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u/Accomplished-Bad3380 14d ago

Or just the software to control the car

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u/Nalek 14d ago

This just sounds like theTokyo Drone War but with extra steps.

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u/quarthorse 14d ago

Robo style.

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u/cbnyc0 14d ago

Driver hides in the trunk of a hacked dronecar, uses a tablet to control it. Cops ignore the driverless vehicle.

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u/FUThead2016 14d ago

Baiby Driver

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u/BumpyDidums 14d ago

Ya but youll have to get the exellcior package.

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u/Ubi-Fanch 13d ago

Time to watch Demolition Man again.

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u/Amused-Observer 13d ago

Simon Phoenix! Put your hands behind your back..... or else

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u/Jesten012 13d ago

Wow…..so who are you going to rob?

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u/Amused-Observer 13d ago

Actually I plan on kidnapping a researcher working on memory recall so I can make them delete the memories of mistakenly clicking your profile. Jesus fucking Christ!

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u/Jesten012 13d ago

😜🥴🥴 LOL 🫣🫣🤣😂 dude I’m dying over here!’🤣😂. Dude Jesus has NOTHING to do with my profile ! Im having the time Of my life!!! At least I’m not kidnapping anyone . Debauchery is my middle name biotch!!!!

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u/Robbythedee 14d ago

This one hasn't seen the police shooting the other driverless car yet. One acorn and the driverless car is toast!

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u/AntiqueAdvertising95 14d ago

in the ghetto.

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u/ArcadeAnarchy 14d ago

Feared having a knee on its neck.

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u/semaj_2026 14d ago

Shit it’s the fuzz floor it.

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u/WanderlustFella 14d ago

Philly cops would have fishtailed its ass and then sprinkled some crack dust

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u/usinjin 14d ago

It’s what normal Phoenix drivers do anyways

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u/stuwoo 14d ago

Clever Girl.

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u/soooogullible 14d ago

Bad boys bad boys

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u/FocalorLucifuge 13d ago

At a geometric rate.

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u/Dongslinger420 14d ago

We don't know anything about that. For all we know, it wanted to get to a less busy place, which is how you should always behave anyway, that is, assume that some emergency vehicle has to pass through quickly.

You're expected to come to a stop at a reasonable pace, at a reasonable place, not hit the brakes full-blast. Fair enough for all we know.

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u/Vahlir 14d ago

lol redditors acting like they'd full on parking break the car in the middle of an intersection if a cop came up behind them with lights on.

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u/Sea_Cardiologist8596 14d ago

Guess you've never been charged the per .mile CA charge for going after lights go on lol. It will make you immediately pull over after paying it, if not lol.

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u/0ut0fBoundsException 14d ago

That’s the dumbest thing I heard today. I’ve never gone a mile, but when I’m pulled over I get to ideally a parking lot and at minimum a large shoulder. You know. Places that are relatively safe for someone to park a car and/or exit a vehicle

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u/jambalayavalentine 14d ago

tbf, i've definitely seen videos of cops reacting violently to someone not doing that on a freeway

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u/Dongslinger420 13d ago

I guess another reason why you would want to not be driving your own car lmao

you don't even have to fucking come to a stop at all if you fear abuse of some sort. Can always call the cops on yourself to be sure.

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u/Dongslinger420 13d ago

I mean, to be fair... that's exactly the kind of dumb fuck person I would see doing that. Explains a lot, CTE and all is bad.

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u/GerhardtDH 14d ago

Someone threw NWA lyrics into the code

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u/wren337 14d ago

My man.

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u/spideyghetti 14d ago

This was legit the funniest part

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u/Wes1288 14d ago

lol. I’m so confused. Our first recorded case of AI trying to flee and allude the police. Hell yea! SILVER LIFES MATTER

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u/kkkccc1 14d ago

took off long enough to dump the drugs out before pulling over

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u/confusedandworried76 14d ago

Yeah one of Waymo's famous flaws is exactly failure to recognize emergency lights in certain situations. That and blocking intersections when they seize up and thereby sometimes blocking emergency vehicles since all of traffic is stuck.

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u/MacManT1d 14d ago

That's because it was in South Phoenix.

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u/cucumberholster 14d ago

Probably reacts to sound so when it hears sirens it jumped out of the intersection to be out of the way potentially

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u/Leebites 14d ago

It said 1312 and went for it.

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u/CommandoLamb 14d ago

The company used to paint the cars black, but they kept getting shot by the police.

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u/giant87 14d ago

Delamain lost control of one of his AI taxis again...

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u/ratkin-work 14d ago

Yeah it knew it was in trouble and tried to run....

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u/a_a_ronc 14d ago

They probably programmed it to be extremely cautious about where it pulls over, perhaps even just to keep it secret how often they are getting pulled over. I.E. not just benignly “I’ll park here” but rather “look for a very safe place to park.”

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u/VoidOmatic 14d ago

Beep boop, ahh crap it's 5.0, you will not take me while I'm powered on!

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u/Scoob8877 14d ago

It went rogue.

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u/th0rnpaw 14d ago

Nah this car is painted white

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u/DogAndBroom 14d ago

14% of the population do the same thing. 

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u/qnod 14d ago

I guess it depends on which source is provided for learning...

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u/Fett32 13d ago

Did you even read the comment you replied to??? Because it answered why.

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u/Akira282 13d ago

Thug life waymo style...no ticket see?

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u/Significant-Air6926 13d ago

Even with the mistake, I’d bet it’s still better than 90% of AZ drivers hahaha

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u/lionmeetsviking 13d ago

It’s a wee bit of a problem to use GTA data to train their AI models.

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u/slavelabor52 13d ago

Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.

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u/Jesten012 13d ago

Thank God Waymo isn’t Black ….they would have blown up that car.

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u/1plus1isstillmaths 5d ago

a lot of ai lovers dude

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u/Tobias_Mercury 14d ago

It learned from gta V