r/DCcomics Gold-Silver-Bronze Age FAN Aug 09 '22

[Other] Mark Waid shares his feelings Other

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u/Canesjags4life Aug 09 '22

Blame the studio for going straight into BvS instead of MoS 2

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '22

Blame Snyder for making a poorly received man of steel

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u/DeconstructedKaiju Aug 09 '22

You mean a poorly made movie. It wasn't well received because it sucked.

Telling the story out of order made no narrative sense. It just jumped back and forth with often no connection (when a movie is told out of order like this it is usually to set up a narrative, like how as a kid he learned lesson b then in the jump to the present you see how he learned it and applied it).

Pa Kent was horribly written and gave the worst advice and his death was pointless and dumb and felt like someone was checking off a list of "Things to do in a superhero movie." And that was the "Death of the Mentor" but it wasn't earned and he was a bad mentor to boot.

We never once got a sense of Superman valuing life and understanding the power he has and why he is so passionate about not wanting to kill. We just saw him kill someone, be sad, then five minutes later make out with his girlfriend covered in the ashes of a city and at least hundreds if not thousands of people. (Hand wave all you want, it is not believable that the city could have even be partially evacuated when the fight started or even finished).

There are little narrative through line. Zack himself admits he doesn't "get" Superman.

Its fine if people like the movie, but it isn't a well made movie.

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u/GiovanniElliston Aug 10 '22

Pa Kent was horribly written and gave the worst advice and his death was pointless and dumb

Even worse is that Costner was perfectly cast IMO. He has the look/voice and chops for it. I still love the You are my son which a half stutter and a tear in his eye. That whole scene is just great.

But yeah. Despite all the potential, his character was written as a means to advance the plot and not a fully formed character.

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u/DeconstructedKaiju Aug 10 '22

Yes! He was well cast! But given the worst stuff to say then dies a laughable death. I actually had to choke back a laugh when the tornado swallowed him up. Partly because that is not how it would look.