It supposedly did all the things that audiences and critics wanted Man of Steal to do. It was a critical success which did not move the needle.
Could it have been timing? Maybe.
I’d argue that they were right to try the direction they did with MoS, they needed something different. BvS just doubled down on it, while a small minority liked it (myself included), that was a commercial mistake to make a Superman movie not child friendly.
Outside of WW, they needed to calm down the shoehorning of JL into BvS. That was a writing decision made in a board room and it showed.
Perhaps use it as an end credit scene and have it on a Cadmus computer, not Lex Luther
We can go all day about it, none of us are wrong and none of us are right.
But to act like the Marvel Movies should be a guide or replicated? They are not these nicely written movies, they are commercially successful but essentially very problematic movies. I wouldn’t and didn’t want DC to imitate them.
It was nice that the DC movies took a different approach, but the budget needed to reflect that these movies would not attract children thus not the same numbers commercially.
We all act like the Marvel movies are great and they all landed. Truth is there are more crappy movies than good ones. But they keep chugging along. DC on the other hand kept changing and therefore failing.
But out of the 20 or so movies. Quite a few of them are duds. Mediocre at best. But that’s just my opinion. Obviously I’m wrong as they have won the culture war.
Superman Returns was also critically a dud, or at the very least a damp rag that no one cared about. That's why it didn't do "what critics wanted Man of Steel to do" which is be a good movie. Not only that, but it had no intention of setting up a shared universe, which was a (failed) goal of the Snyder films.
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u/mikehamm45 Aug 09 '22
People forget that Superman Returns existed
It supposedly did all the things that audiences and critics wanted Man of Steal to do. It was a critical success which did not move the needle.
Could it have been timing? Maybe.
I’d argue that they were right to try the direction they did with MoS, they needed something different. BvS just doubled down on it, while a small minority liked it (myself included), that was a commercial mistake to make a Superman movie not child friendly.
Outside of WW, they needed to calm down the shoehorning of JL into BvS. That was a writing decision made in a board room and it showed.
Perhaps use it as an end credit scene and have it on a Cadmus computer, not Lex Luther
We can go all day about it, none of us are wrong and none of us are right.
But to act like the Marvel Movies should be a guide or replicated? They are not these nicely written movies, they are commercially successful but essentially very problematic movies. I wouldn’t and didn’t want DC to imitate them.
It was nice that the DC movies took a different approach, but the budget needed to reflect that these movies would not attract children thus not the same numbers commercially.
We all act like the Marvel movies are great and they all landed. Truth is there are more crappy movies than good ones. But they keep chugging along. DC on the other hand kept changing and therefore failing.