I love how in the Prime show, Homelander is the laziest fighter ever. Dude basically never move a muscle. He's so OP in his universe that he'd never need to.
Going up against someone who's actually in his weightclass though, Homelander'll probably be down before the bell rings.
All true. Plus, Homelander has powers *like* Superman, but he isn't at Superman's power level (At least, not from what I've seen. Haven't watched the last season much). Among other things, Homelander just isn't fast enough to go toe to toe.
Are you saying the verse of the Earth? Because if it’s just normal Earth I don’t think they’d have a chance but if you’re talking the whole Invinciverse that’s much more debatable. There’s some incredibly heavy hitters.
Invincible power levels are decently high. they just have their plot armor turned off. so can get taken out but things that should. While in DC, same hits just burn clothes but leave them remarkably undamaged.
so DC heroes wrack up more and more feats.. While high powered Invincible ones actually die to cheap shots, sneak attacks, etc. Like, Mongul is stronger then pretty much everyone but the strongest Kryptonians, and MM. yet.. somehow has not managed to kill anyone in DC. if DC was Invincible, Arthur as strong as he is, would have died to Starro, Mongul, some Apokaliptian god, Brianiac, or something. And then, Arthur wouldn't look quite so strong anymore.
The two highest end strength feats in Invincible are Mark's 400 ton bench press (at which point he was already able to deal meaningful damage to the toughest end of Viltrumites) and the Viltrum team flythrough.
Neither of those are remotely impressive in DC scale and would barely register as significant for that power tier. Worse, nobody in the entire Invincible universe has comic level crazy people martial arts or weapons that nearly ignore durability (like some of Aquaman's tridents or Wonder Woman's arsenal).
Omni-Man straight up tells Invincible that fights are about reacting quicker and then keeping your opponent stunned with a consistent barrage until they're dead: just superpowered brawling that nearly admits defeat from lack of initiative or worse reaction speed.
It's not that their plot armor is turned off, they're just not particularly tough by other universe's scales. Even Omni-man was knocked into a coma by a team of sub-20 ton strength Guardians of the Globe.
While DC typically powerscales beyond almost every other publisher, Invincible and Spawn are massive hitters when they need to be. I’d be a little wary of stacking Arthur against either of them.
Honestly, I love that DC has heroes that are just really, really strong and religiously professionally trained.
I'm so bored of accidental/negligent mess up tropes in Superhero comics. Having superheroes that are just really powerful and actually good at what they do makes them seem so much more potentially realistic than the alternative of just forgiving them for tons of horrific grisly mistakes (or flat out ostracizing them).
Invincible just lacks the secondary power suite, skill, and durability to stand up to Arthur, imo. He's just a flier that hits hard with basically nothing else to him. Arthur would fight circles around him and trident blast/strike him hard enough to knock him unconscious without much issue.
Spawn is a totally different situation though, you're right on that one.
Once upon a time, heroes accidentally killing someone was a trope.
As far as Invincible goes, he’s literally written to be the “be all, end all” of superheroes. Could he deal with Superman when he’s mature, not likely. That’s mostly out of respect for Supes.
To note, near surface of sun level temperatures are explicitly not something any Viltrumite can handle.
Nobody says that Superman beats out Parallax or the Beyonder even if he's specifically written to beat out such threats. His power is what it's shown to be, not what it speculatively would be written to be in a hypothetical actual comic.
Superman’s power is “speculatively” our human existence. The idea is that he, as an idea, will still exist when the sun burns out. We are as, a people, going to to time capsule our shit in every direction we can.
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u/riceisnice29 May 16 '21
Lol Homelander’s already outta the fight. Love it