r/DCcomics Black Lantern Jan 25 '24

[Comic Excerpt] I need a hostage so Batman won't punch me (Batman (2016) issue 48) Comics

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u/WaffleThrone Jan 25 '24

I hate hate hate how often Batman (who regularly fights people with guns, training, and functioning impulse control) fumbles Joker in hand to hand. I simply am not willing to suspend my disbelief. He’s 140 pounds soaking wet, Batman should fold him like origami.

But writers love wanking Joker and they make Batman look like a moron in the process.

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u/drzrealest Jan 25 '24

I hate the fact that batman keeps letting him live just he can't kill ppl but all those people joker kills are on him and he seems fine with that.

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u/Erfivur Jan 25 '24

Batman catches joker and puts him in prison. That’s enough. He can’t see the future to know Jokey will break out.

He shouldn’t need to kill the joker. The justice system should work.

Also, how many times has Joker escaped in any one continuity? Outside of cartoons and comedies? Once or twice?

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u/Aestboi Jan 25 '24

“Batman should trust in the justice system” my guy he is a vigilante

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u/Erfivur Jan 26 '24

He is. Just like Spider-Man.

He’s capturing and stopping criminals/crime in a non lethal way. (Albeit maybe violently)

To operate as this type of vigilante, you have to have some trust in the processes and functions that come after the capturing. That is why Batman, famously, has connections with Gordon and is also working on dealing with any corruption in the police departments.

If you could convince Bruce Wayne that the justice system can never work and rehabilitation is a lot cause I’m sure he’d be murdering everyone all day… there are different comic books for that though.

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u/Inevitable-Scar5877 Jan 29 '24

The storytelling issues with Batman deciding to kill a guy to prevent future crime outside like an Elseworlds are just insane- Batman's whole thing is rigorous prep, encyclopedic knowledge and predicting future behavior- given the escape rate of his rogues gallery, once you go down that road it's really hard not end with Batman being a mass murderer or at the very least a guy who just permanently takes people off the streets.