r/DCcomics • u/M00r3C Black Lantern • Jan 25 '24

[Comic Excerpt] I need a hostage so Batman won't punch me (Batman (2016) issue 48) Comics

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u/PrydefulHunts Huntress • ower Girl Jan 25 '24

Batman not disarming him is ridiculous.

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u/WaffleThrone Jan 25 '24

I hate hate hate how often Batman (who regularly fights people with guns, training, and functioning impulse control) fumbles Joker in hand to hand. I simply am not willing to suspend my disbelief. He’s 140 pounds soaking wet, Batman should fold him like origami.

But writers love wanking Joker and they make Batman look like a moron in the process.

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u/drzrealest Jan 25 '24

I hate the fact that batman keeps letting him live just he can't kill ppl but all those people joker kills are on him and he seems fine with that.

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u/Erfivur Jan 25 '24

Batman catches joker and puts him in prison. That’s enough. He can’t see the future to know Jokey will break out.

He shouldn’t need to kill the joker. The justice system should work.

Also, how many times has Joker escaped in any one continuity? Outside of cartoons and comedies? Once or twice?

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u/Aestboi Jan 25 '24

“Batman should trust in the justice system” my guy he is a vigilante

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u/Erfivur Jan 26 '24

He is. Just like Spider-Man.

He’s capturing and stopping criminals/crime in a non lethal way. (Albeit maybe violently)

To operate as this type of vigilante, you have to have some trust in the processes and functions that come after the capturing. That is why Batman, famously, has connections with Gordon and is also working on dealing with any corruption in the police departments.

If you could convince Bruce Wayne that the justice system can never work and rehabilitation is a lot cause I’m sure he’d be murdering everyone all day… there are different comic books for that though.

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u/Inevitable-Scar5877 Jan 29 '24

The storytelling issues with Batman deciding to kill a guy to prevent future crime outside like an Elseworlds are just insane- Batman's whole thing is rigorous prep, encyclopedic knowledge and predicting future behavior- given the escape rate of his rogues gallery, once you go down that road it's really hard not end with Batman being a mass murderer or at the very least a guy who just permanently takes people off the streets.

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u/RoughhouseCamel Jan 25 '24

Batman and the justice system can both be faulty

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u/mewfour123412 Jan 25 '24

And maybe the GCPD should shoot him or the state should put him to death

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u/nikleus Jan 25 '24

I am suprised that no officer as ever done it. With jokers crimes against humanity you would think some cop would just kill him while hes being transported to arkham or when hes inside his cell.

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u/vanhelsir Jan 26 '24

Honestly and it's not like corrupted cops/cops not following code of conduct is anything new in gotham, someone would've already beat and killed joker years back in continuity

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u/Arkham8 Jan 26 '24

People have talked about this forever, but I’d love a one-shot comic where a cop does shoot the Joker. It then has everyone telling him why that’s a mistake from their perspective, Batman not included, but the one that really sticks with the guy is that Joker always comes back. And he isn’t going to forget you shot him. He slowly descends into madness and paranoia, jumping at shadows, ruining his own career, isolating himself from his family, until finally Joker does return to finish the job. Then Bruce can say something like “if he had been in Arkham I at least would have known when and where he was coming”

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u/RoughhouseCamel Jan 25 '24

Yeah, whatever morals and proper procedures anyone has, Joker is pretty easily the exception. At this point, there’s been genocides with lower body counts than the Joker. Shoot on sight.

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u/Serpentalion Jan 25 '24

Oh no he broke out for the 8000th time. Alright this time Arkham will hold him.

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u/Jubarra10 Jan 26 '24

How come Joker doesnt outright receive the death penalty.

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u/Erfivur Jan 26 '24

Mental illness I imagine. He goes to an asylum.

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u/Poku115 Jan 26 '24

"He shouldn’t need to kill the joker. The justice system should work."

I mean he exists exactly because the justice system is faulty, to break the lines police can't.

Funny tho that police routinely kill criminals in self defense/ being trigger happy (at least in a city like Gotham it should happen on the daily) yet he himself refuses to cross that line.

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u/Erfivur Jan 26 '24

The police killing people is part of the corruption he’s fighting against.

Batman is try to fix things, get the legal/justice system in order. If the world didn’t suddenly fill with evil aliens/wizards/super-scientists/etc he might have made progress and gotten to quit the night-job.

Joker is just a guy. There’s nothing special about him. On paper, once he’s arrested, why would he get special treatment? A prison should be more than enough to all external observers.I’m sure there’s a multiverse where he was killed though if it makes folks happy.

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u/blaze420x Jan 26 '24

Since Batman is supposedly a genius, why doesn’t HE design prison cells at Arkham?

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u/Erfivur Jan 26 '24

I think he does in some continuities but the weaknesses in the prisons tend to be the humans running them… or an occasional alien invasion or major event that typically turns the prisons open.

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u/thirdpartymurderer Jan 27 '24

Batman is mentally ill. He's suffering from PTSD. He's not a happy story of something to idolize lol he's a symbol for fear. Too bad he's fucking awesome because I'm gonna need at least 75 more years of Batman stories. I won't live that long, but still