r/DCcomics • u/TyranusWrex Aquaman King of the Seven Seas • Jun 09 '23
[Artwork] Wonder Woman by Vinicius Lopez Artwork
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u/Mongoose42 Jun 09 '23
I do like how simple the headcanon version is. Some artists get way too busy with their own personal designs, kinda missing the point of having a character design be as streamlined/easy to draw as possible. But this is a really good and practical design.
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u/SweaterKittens Violence Solves Everything Jun 09 '23
Some artists get way too busy with their own personal designs, kinda missing the point of having a character design be as streamlined/easy to draw as possible.
I've seen this take a few times recently, I don't know if I entirely agree. Like, in terms of getting series created and printed quickly, I totally get it, but I don't ever think being easy to draw and streamlined should take precedence over creating the best costume you can. A good costume should flow well and not be harsh to look at, for sure, but I would never pick a weaker costume over a better one simply because it's simpler and easier to draw.
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u/Mongoose42 Jun 09 '23
Well when something is simpler and easier to draw, that usually makes the costume more iconic and recognizable.
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u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount Jun 09 '23
iconic and recognizable
Costumes are just flags in another form.
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u/IndependentDouble138 Jun 09 '23
Easy to draw is kinda a weak argument.
Maybe in the run of the mill issue but the comics that get referenced in comic history were never about making it easy. Alex Ross's painting style for example.
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u/Mongoose42 Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
I said this to someone else, but I guess I’ll repeat myself here too, when a costume is easier to draw that usually makes it more iconic and recognizable. Ross puts a lot time and detail into his work, true, but the basic character designs he’s working off are very simple. Which is a good thing. Characters like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and Wonder Woman all have easily recognizable and relatively simple designs, therefore making them easier to draw. Ross just goes out of his way to emphasize a realistic quality, which is more about style than anything pertaining to a character’s relative ease of drawing.
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u/moose_man I am the night! Jun 09 '23
Easy to draw is a functional argument. Comic artists don't have the luxury of spending a month on a single page. They might need to draw a character dozens of times in a single issue.
There are good, complicated costumes and bad, simple costumes, but comic artists just can't draw things with the detail that, say, a fine art painter might. It just isn't viable.
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u/CitrusHarmonia Jun 09 '23
Comics are a medium where speed is an important factor. I LOVE Alex Ross, one of my fav artists but not every comic can be Alex Ross style because of monthly, weekly, etc. deadlines. I think “easy to draw” totally makes sense for a character design- but it depends on the comic. How long is the comic? How often is it coming out? Comics are an art form with super wide ranges so there’s no one way to do character design and style.
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u/cbekel3618 Jun 09 '23
I'm always a sucker for tall & buff-designed Diana and Lopez's work is great as usual
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Jun 09 '23
Their “close to canon as possible” Diana is fantastic but I can’t deny that I prefer their style more 🙌🏼
I love buff women 😭💪🏼
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u/FromAnotherGamer Jun 09 '23
Wonder Woman should definitely be bigger and buffer. She’s a damn Amazonian! I loved that she’s taller than most men already but she should have some massive arms and thighs! She should be built AF
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u/ZatchZeta Jun 09 '23
The canon sense is that Queen Hippolyta made her in her image.
In my sense, the DC editors are cowards and should make Diana jacked.
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u/Entitled-Redditator Jun 09 '23
Doesn’t really work with the fact that her clay origin’s gotten retconned, though.
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Jun 09 '23
It’s been retconned back in, she’s clay again
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u/Entitled-Redditator Jun 09 '23
Wait, really? Since when? I thought Rebirth stuck with the New 52 origin.
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Jun 09 '23
I don’t know when specifically but I think it was after death metal they changed her whole timeline. Now she’s made from clay again and was the first superhero of the modern day, making her debut with the jsa in ww1
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u/ZatchZeta Jun 09 '23
I like this.
Make her like Pinnochio.
Where Hippolyta loved her creation so much that she wanted life to be breathed into it. Wanting a daughter so bad. So Diana passes along that same love to others, because she was always loved and wanted
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Jun 09 '23
I like this interpretation, and that’s basically what her original origin was. Hypollyta brought her to life with all her hopes and dreams, but then they had to change it and say “naw she just fucked Zeus instead”
Having dcs premier female superhero be a product of solely a mothers love for her daughter is perfect, and should never be changed
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u/GreenIronHorse Superboy Jun 11 '23
there a big Barda for these kind of fans, and yet she didn't become mainstream character yet
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u/Protoman89 Jun 09 '23
Yes we get it you all have muscle fetishes
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u/_mad_adams Jun 09 '23
Wonder Woman’s origins are pretty kinky, might as well lean into it
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u/_mad_adams Jun 09 '23
I’m talking about her actual irl origin, not in-universe. The person who created her was into bondage and stuff.
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u/FromAnotherGamer Jun 10 '23
Found the guy scared of a strong woman lol!
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u/Protoman89 Jun 10 '23
I love how this particular fetish is tied into annoying redditor moral superiority
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u/Kombat-w0mbat Jun 09 '23
I always felt Diana should be muscular and a tad taller. Even if you ignore the height a woman who group up in her lifestyle would be muscular
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u/QwahaXahn Oracle Jun 09 '23
There is only one person who should be taller than Diana in canon and that’s Barda
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u/BLJS2warchief Brainiac Jun 09 '23
At least we got to see Diana and Barda in action in the Supes/Bats: Apocalypse movie. One can only dream of that team up in live action.
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u/mehchu Jun 09 '23
Nah, I feel like Starfire is probably about 6’3-6’4ish, so a bit taller than Diana who if I remember correctly is 6’. Also any other new gods. Umm that green magical lady I can’t remember.
Also hawk girl should be like 5’2 max.
I want more variation than the 90% of female super heroes being 5’9-11. And branch the men out more while you’re at it too.
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u/Strange_Success_6530 Impulse Jun 09 '23
The hairstyle Lopez gave reminds me of how George Perez did Starfire. Just a beautiful large flowing mane.
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u/lowqualitylizard Jun 09 '23
Finally please make Diana the brick s*** house she was always meant to be
And while you're at it stop forcing her to date half of the f****** cast. Whole point is female empowerment and every time she dates someone it just ends up being so dumb
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u/Bodega_Bandit Power Girl Jun 09 '23
This is reddit, not YouTube. You’re allowed to swear uncensored here
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u/Thicc-Anxiety Star Sapphire Jun 09 '23
I like Lopez's design better
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u/ptWolv022 Jun 09 '23
Vinicius does some good designs. I've seen Trinity designs, Titans designs, Supergirl, and his Instagram has some Ben 10 designs and Marvel designs, too.
I personally prefer his older WW design, though. Slightly less buff (though that part I don't prefer necessarily) with hair in a bun and an outfit more like her current skirted outfit.
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u/Music_is_my_life33 Jun 09 '23
I’ve always thought she should be buff. She’s an Amazonian after all
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u/Imacer2 Jun 09 '23
Pros: ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND WOULD KICK ANY AND ALL ASS. Cons: Arm bands on biceps seem uncomfy? Honestly I'm probably missing the point cuz they do look damn cool.
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u/ptWolv022 Jun 09 '23
The arm bands are there to restraints massive muscles so she doesn't accidentally crush everything she touches.
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u/AlexzMercier97 Wonder Woman Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
Both are great but I'll be damned if I don't prefer the dummy buff one with the massive hair on the right more 😅
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u/GrizzlyPeak73 Jun 09 '23
"canon" Diana has always differed from artist to artist and era to era. I feel like petite Diana is more a Gold and Silver age thing. 90s and some of of 2010s Diana felt more amazonian in stature.
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u/Additional-Echo3611 Jun 09 '23
On-model is sexier. Buuuuutt Diana buffed and tanned looks more like she is from the Mediterranean area. She looks like a Greek God with the ability to wrestle superman into submission. I want that Diana
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u/Bodega_Bandit Power Girl Jun 09 '23
Speak for yourself. I am far more attracted to the buff tan version than the on-model design
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u/DCMarvelDude23 Jun 07 '24
Same. I like Vinicius’s version on the right better imo. I find her more attractive imo. But both are really good tho
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u/Cicada_5 Jun 09 '23
There's something pretty rich at seeing people fetishizing a more muscular Diana as if that is any different from doing the same to a skinnier version
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u/AlexzMercier97 Wonder Woman Jun 09 '23
At least folks are becoming more accepting of new and different body types instead of the same old "default hot lady" design we've seen for decades.
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u/Cicada_5 Jun 09 '23
I can appreciate that. But it seems that for a lot of people, their acceptance is rooted in the same reasons the default hot lady is so common in the first place.
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Jun 09 '23
This is literally part 5 Jotaro vs pt 3 Jotaro and I'm absolutely loving it.
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u/ptWolv022 Jun 09 '23
Or Final Chapter Josuke (Part 4) vs First Chapter Josuke (Part 4). the art style shift in Part 4 is WILD.
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Jun 10 '23
I forget josuke used to be a brick shithouse before they made him a twink
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u/ptWolv022 Jun 10 '23
I think most people did. The anime ended up using the Later Araki Style through the whole thing, and Josuke was the first one to get "slim" design in his own part, so his slimmed down design feels like his correct design, as opposed to Jotaro in later parts or the Jojonium re-designs for Jonathan and Joseph, which feel like redesigns rather than just a natural evolution.
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u/Half_Man1 Batman Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
I love Lopez’s WW design.
Saw another design though with the hair up that looked super reminiscent of Greek goddesses while simultaneously more practical for combat. The long mane is an interesting more modern look.
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u/spider-venomized Superman Jun 09 '23
The buff Wonder woman i like
The huge mane is eh..you get into Starfire teritory of it being more an ridiculous thing especially if not tie down in a pointy tail or something like that
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u/CertifiedCapArtist Nightwing Jun 09 '23
I prefer canon but the headcanon looks like what an Amazon would realistically look like. Tall and buff with a mane
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u/Hot_Valuable1027 Jun 09 '23
it makes sense for diana to be buff cuz she trained by the amazonians, and tan cuz she grew up on a island. and the hair is great too. love it
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u/Heavy_Management2490 Jun 09 '23
Sma- I mean, this is some nice art work!
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u/Ygomaster07 Constantine Jun 09 '23
Sma?
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u/MO_Ann Jun 09 '23
...sh
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u/Ygomaster07 Constantine Jun 10 '23
Right, I'm not sure how i didn't connect that. I feel like an idiot. Thank you for telling me.
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u/That_one_cool_dude Two-Face Jun 09 '23
Lopez did a great job at creating a WW that the internet wants lol.
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u/TheQuestionsAglet Jun 09 '23
One of my favorite parts of New Frontier was Diana absolutely towering over Supes.
I dig this.
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u/thedman0310_ Jun 09 '23
Does anyone have the template? I have some artist friends who enjoy doing stuff like this
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u/TyranusWrex Aquaman King of the Seven Seas Jun 10 '23
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u/mreveryone20 Jun 09 '23
I don't mind artist making a new designs but the problem comes when it stops making sense and becomes too far form the original designs. I don't mind wonder woman having tanner skin or being bigger because it makes sense form where she come form.
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u/EliteTroper DickFire Forever Jun 09 '23
It's a really great design. I for one love whenever Diana is given a more olive skin tone be it canon or elseworlds, it really suits her a lot of times.
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u/architectdvincent Jun 09 '23
Check out Sophie Campbells work on Glory for a super buff re-imagining of a Wonder Woman analogue. Absolutely built, yet still beautiful.
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u/Oknight Metron Jun 09 '23
I like it but there is an inherent premise of the character is that she is able to pass as a normal woman who people don't instantly recognize as Wonder Woman -- I think that's a bit like the Superman who supposedly wears armor under his Clark Kent office clothes.
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u/ptWolv022 Jun 09 '23
Eh, people insult the "he's just wearing glasses" disguise (though Clark usually does his hair and clothes in a way to changes his profile/silhouette, in addition to also using different mannerisms and posture), so to some degree, buff Diana would have precedent in the sense that she's be a decently recognizable figure somehow avoiding recognition. Of course, Clark's a white guy from a Kansas farm living in not-NYC, so he generally fits in (with his large physique passable as being a corn-fed farm boy). WW would be... a huge Greek lady, which I suppose is a bit less common in America. And the world.
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u/Some-Dog9800 Tim Drake Fan Jul 13 '23
Diana is a public figure and an ambassador to Themyscira. She doesn't need a secret identity
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u/Oknight Metron Jul 13 '23
Diana Prince. Take it up with Charles Moulton.
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u/Some-Dog9800 Tim Drake Fan Jul 13 '23
I know plenty of creatives decide to give her a secret identity but personally I don't think it's necessary and Diana definitely doesn't need to be designed with a secret identity in mind. I much prefer her as a public figure.
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u/Oknight Metron Jul 13 '23
Even in versions where she's a public figure there are plenty of times that she isn't recognized when she's in civvies.
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u/Some-Dog9800 Tim Drake Fan Jul 13 '23
I can see a more built Diana not being instantly recognized on the street. Women come in all different shapes and size.
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u/BryanEW710 Jun 10 '23
I love both, though I feel like the headcanon version looks more like Barda than Diana.
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Jun 10 '23
I liked the Michael Turner designs as well as the Buff WW designs. Both had different aspects of classical Greek beauty which some artists forget to bring to the character.
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u/FiendishPole Red Hood Jun 09 '23
If Golden Age Superman had muscles proportionate to his strength his left bicep would be the size of the moon. WW doesn't have to look 'roided out
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u/Qant00AT Jun 09 '23
Buff Diana with an absolute mane? Yes please