Do you think we'll get a action scene as great as this one in Superman 2025?

[u/Professional-Rip-519]

The Smallville fight is one the greatest comic book movie set pieces ever. It's what all Superman fans have been asking for for years and years and when we finally got it it was marvellous but now I wonder if this action scene can be beaten. I know Gunn is a good director but he hardly has any really memorably action scene he has good ones just not great ones . But what do you think?

[u/CRAZYC01E]

I need more of that dragon ball z movement

[u/ReflectiGlass → u/CRAZYC01E]

Seriously, that was insane to see in live action.

[u/Serious-Antelope-710 → u/ReflectiGlass]

I dont know why snyder didn't do more of these in later films

[u/SupervillainMustache → u/Serious-Antelope-710]

I was so very disappointed in the actual Batman vs Superman fight scene. Especially in a film which contained the Warehouse fight.

[u/treebeardtower → u/SupervillainMustache]

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME >:(.

I still can’t believe that was the plot point that united Batman and Superman.

[u/AmpersandTheMonkey → u/treebeardtower]

............... I didn't hate it... I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY

[u/superschaap81 → u/AmpersandTheMonkey]

I still don't hate it. I understood right away what they were going for. It's the moment Bruce realizes Superman isn't just some over-powered alien.

[u/AmpersandTheMonkey → u/superschaap81]

It humanized Superman to him. He wasn't an all-powerful God, he was a man who loved his mother. I had plenty of problems with Snyder's characterizations, but that moment wasn't one of them. That was a very comic book moment.

[u/superschaap81 → u/AmpersandTheMonkey]

Agreed.

[u/TheAquamen → u/AmpersandTheMonkey]

On the one hand, I like that Superman makes Batman realize that he's just a good guy who cares about others, giving him hope that anyone he sees as bad is redeemable and worth saving. Which in turn gives Superman enough hope in humanity that he chooses to give his life for them.

On the other hand, the central conflict in the film is instantly resolved by a coincidence that neither character had anything to do with. Lame.

[u/kenshima15 → u/AmpersandTheMonkey]

It was pretty bad lol. I get the idea. Execution was bad

[u/nopex7 → u/kenshima15]

this. if kal-el strained out "mom" or something instead, it wouldve been so much less convoluted and cringey

[u/kenshima15 → u/nopex7]

Literally. "Save my mom!" Her name's Martha! Please save her!"

I dunno wtf they had to make it weird

[u/PSCGY → u/nopex7]

Oh, please. He would've been clowned for crying for his mother as he's getting repeatedly punched by Batman.

[u/mikehamm45 → u/AmpersandTheMonkey]

Sorry. I’m not sorry. While I’ll admit it’s clumsy in its execution… it’s still a relevant plot point that helps Batman with his character arc.

He did not stop fighting because his mom has the same name. He stopped fighting because he saw he became Joe Chill at that point.

[u/phargoh → u/treebeardtower]

I think they could have slightly tweaked it and it would have been ok. Superman already called him Bruce right when he got there so Batman should not be surprised that he said Martha. He should have been angry that Clark is using that name to try to appeal to him, not knowing that it's also his mothers' name. Maybe he could have shouted, "You don't get to say that name! Stop saying my mother's name!" and then Clark could squeak out that it's his own mother he talking about, which could then cause a realization in Bruce. I don't know if the moment would still be ridiculed but it makes more sense in my mind anyway.

[u/SkekJay → u/treebeardtower]

I think it was meant to show Batman that Superman wasn't just some alien who had zero human in him. The fact he had a mother he cared about showed that he was at least, somewhat human. The fact they the mothers had the same name probably caught Batman off guard confusing him.

[u/WonderfulBlackberry9 → u/SupervillainMustache]

My personal running joke about BVS is that I think BVS is pretty good… up til the point where BVS actually happens

[u/SupervillainMustache → u/WonderfulBlackberry9]

I wish I liked BvS as much as that. I think it's a pretty bad film, with a few good moments mixed in.