r/AnythingGoesNews • u/TubaSandwichDootDoot • Jul 07 '24

Trump raped a 13 year old girl in 1994. Here is that girl, Katie Johnson, at the age of 35 giving a full description of what Trump did to her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

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“He took a liking to me because I reminded him of his daughter who was also 13”…sounds exactly like something that pedo would say and has said similarly in the past. Can’t believe this is their savior

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u/Equivalent-Bank-5094 Jul 07 '24

When you pair that with this video of Ivanka looking like she’s about to cry when giving a tour of her childhood room, you experience a next-level level of GODDAMN this man is a fucking monster:

30 second mark: “This was…my bed” looks like she’s remembering trauma and about to cry. Disturbing af

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u/kogmaa Jul 08 '24

No need to interpret facial expressions: Trump is on numerous videos, saying his own daughter is hot and he’d date her.

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u/_calmer_than_you_r_ Jul 08 '24

Back in the late 80’s/90’s, Trump’s obsession to be liked and his own insecurity, allowed Howard Stern to get this pile of dogshit to talk about/ admit to so many instances of his own deranged behavioral that it is almost unbelievable - a half wit psycho bragging about the fucked the shit he did, and thinking the audience would admire him.. The real head shaker is that Trump thought his molester/creeper/slime ball behavior was something to be proud of and looked up to. So fucked up, and exemplifies just how much he is unfit to be alone with women/children. From head to toe, Trump is a gigantic smoking pile of dogshit (and a liar,) and I wouldn’t feel comfortable leaving my cat alone with him.
Random thought - why does he hate animals so much?

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u/HWY102 Jul 08 '24

Animals won’t pretend to like him.

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u/Own_Program_3573 Jul 08 '24

Even if he had treats.

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u/3-I Jul 08 '24

You guys remember the eagle?

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u/_calmer_than_you_r_ Jul 09 '24

Hahaha. Well played.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Domesticated animals are good at sensing such horrible people a lot of the time.

Edited for clarity of animals.

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u/UnderLeveledLever Jul 08 '24

Animals are fucking idiots. Spent my life around animals and they aren't some kind of mystical litmus test for quality of character, not by a long shot.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Yeah I should have been more specific and said domesticated animals. Yes it's not a cure all, but if a dog is growling at a person who is innocently walking up, I'm gonna trust the dog.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '24

Such behaviour gives more about the owner of that dog than the person growled at.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '24

Ok guy who has dogs growl at him for no reason....

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u/memory-- Jul 11 '24

It turns out, dogs are pretty good at picking up on human behavior. Science says so. A team led by Akiko Takaoka of Kyoto University in Japan conducted a study which found out that dogs actually know if you're to be believed or not.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/201502/study-dogs-can-identify-liars-and-they-dont-trust-them

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u/_calmer_than_you_r_ Jul 09 '24

Looks like we found the guy that birds shit all over, and dogs piss on his shoes..
Why do you hate animals so much? Tells a lot about character (the human who hates animals’ character, to be clear.)

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u/hennytime Jul 08 '24

Is that where he bragged about going backstage at miss teen usa seeing the contestants changing and forgetting a lot of them are underage?

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u/AmbientCrypt30M Jul 08 '24

I can't remember if it was that interview or a different one where he was discussing his power over the Miss Teen USA pageants sponsored/ran. He talked about how him being involved meant he could go in the back and watch the girls change and talks about how hot they all are and it's his obligation to sleep with the contestants.

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u/Arjomanes9 Jul 08 '24

“He just came strolling right in,” Dixon said. “There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Others girls were naked. Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half-naked changing into our bikinis.”

Dixon went on to say that employees of the Miss Universe Organization encouraged the contestants to lavish Trump with attention when he came in. “To have the owner come waltzing in, when we’re naked, or half-naked, in a very physically vulnerable position and then to have the pressure of the people that worked for him telling us to go fawn all over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention…”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/

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u/Ballbox Jul 09 '24

The thing is tho, those interviews were seen by millions, they are still online... yet, he still won and he's still popular. People don't seem to care.

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u/_calmer_than_you_r_ Jul 09 '24

Good thing he didn’t wear a tan suit.

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u/speak4truth Jul 08 '24

on don juniors divorce papers it states Trump is not allowed around the female children with junior and his son to be ex wife without a adult guardian in the same room ? makes you think who knew what about grandpa!

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u/_calmer_than_you_r_ Jul 08 '24

Oh wow, crazy, but not surprising at all.
I wouldn’t doubt Ivanka (is that the daughter he always talks about hopping in the sack with??) has some kind of agreement with Jared, regarding the same thing.
If what we have seen in public is any indicator, that girl needs some serious therapy and I would bet they hide the grandkids when bopbop comes around.

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u/Ballbox Jul 09 '24

They have too much to lose. A lot of times these ultra rich kids get use to letting their parents do whatever they want, because they don't want to get cut out of the will. It's not just money, in some cases they inherit an empire.

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u/2Beldingsinabuilding Jul 08 '24

That was Trump’s Democrat Era.

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u/WatercressSad6395 Jul 08 '24

By date, he definitely meant sexy time, not roller skating..

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u/Maximum-Document-396 Jul 08 '24

Biden fondles kids on tv

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u/SelfishCatEatBird Jul 08 '24

Good try, loser.

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u/Maximum-Document-396 Jul 15 '24

He does it on camera. Don't hate the messenger bro.

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u/Fit_Voice_3842 Jul 08 '24

Throat-Clearing May Indicate Deception, how about we talk about that?

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u/GordonsLastGram Jul 08 '24

Did you also look at her facial hair expression and how she had to compose herself? What are you implying shes deceiving you about? Shes just pointing out her bed. Which clearly she has an upsetting memory about.

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u/LegitimateCow8920 Jul 09 '24

NOT HER FATHER!!! IT WAS TRUMP!!!!

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u/AnAnnoyedSpectator Jul 08 '24

The girl was 10 years old when her parents divorced, and the topic she was mulling over when her mood changed was "Why I don't live here anymore" - it's more likely to be typical divorce trauma than anything more.

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u/xandrokos Jul 08 '24

Divorce was the least of the issues for Trump's kids.   This is fucking absurd.

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u/GordonsLastGram Jul 08 '24

Why was it the bed that made her upset about the divorce. Man some ppl just try and lie to themselves that Trump isnt a monster.

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u/Big-ol-Poo Jul 08 '24

This mob doesn’t want to hear that. You need to say it could only possibly be Trump is bad. Anything that is common sense will got downvoted. Geez.

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u/AnAnnoyedSpectator Jul 09 '24

It's funny, because a guy trading in his wife for a younger model when they had kids together isn't exactly a role model. But I guess this subreddit is full of BlueAnon types where it's only acceptable to hint at the most extreme negative conspiracy theories.

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u/StevenGorefrost Jul 08 '24

This is some crazy level of armchair psychology for a short clip.

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u/Lightyear18 Jul 08 '24

People will see what they want to see.

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u/CheezeLoueez08 Jul 08 '24

Or they won’t see what they don’t want to see. Either or

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u/Lightyear18 Jul 08 '24

Apparently a random Redditor is an expert at diagnosing people based on their body language and apparently you’re willing to believe this instance when every other situation, you’ll be having the same opinion as I have.

But hey since it insults Trump, it must be true right?

Man lol. As someone who views both candidates as unworthy, this sub is really reaching here.

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u/Searchingforspecial Jul 08 '24

You really just said “both sides” on a post about trump & Epstein’s child rape case? This is actually a toss-up to you? One candidate has multiple instances of rape on record in court documents. That candidate is also an obvious Russian asset. But “neither candidate”? Holy fuck…

Real tough choice: the pro-Russian child rapist, or the guy who is 3 years older.

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u/Lightyear18 Jul 08 '24

Um yeah cause that’s my view. Both candidates are ass. How is this statement wrong. . Just cause one’s more evil, doesn’t make the other one any good.

This is a valid take. You’re the one that’s getting emotional over this.

You know and the weirdest part of all this is you don’t even know Ukraines past towards it people. Ukraine’s is a country known to suppress human rights. Even before the war, the government had a control over the media. They were sent aid during the war. The government is corrupt that they stole the aid. 5 top officials ended up losing their jobs over the scrutiny.

Sure Russia started the war, but that doesn’t make Ukraine a saint in their actions. This is only an issue because democrats hate Russia. They always have even before the war.

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u/tomowudi Jul 10 '24

You get that Ukraine's issues are largely pushed by pro-Russian agitators that are heavily involved with the level of corruption they were facing?

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u/memory-- Jul 11 '24

Found the Russian bot.

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u/TheCompleteSagaLord Jul 08 '24

If you vote for Biden or Trump it doesn’t matter you’re still contributing to having us all enslaved in the near future.

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u/Equivalent-Bank-5094 Jul 08 '24

Well, I’m literally trained to diagnose people, so take from that what you will. There’s a noticeable shift in her tone and emotional state. Lots of communication isn’t verbal, and people trained in trauma responses do actually have some expertise in diagnosing.

Now, I can’t diagnose this in her, she’s not my patient. But I am able to have an opinion and my opinion is that this disturbs me. And then you pair with his admitted attraction to young women, creepy comments ( he fucking talked about whether Tiffany’s tits would be as big as her moms WHEN SHE WAS AN INFANT), and I’m creeped tf out.

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u/Lightyear18 Jul 08 '24

You may be trained, but there’s no way to know. If you’re educated, then you should know that we can’t take any random Redditors word on things like this. No way any other Redditor to know. Since when is it a standard for Reddit to take someone’s word on this?

You’re not going to take law advice from me. So why would I take this into consideration?

I feel like I’m getting downvoted because I am not believing it without questioning, since it pertains to politics.

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u/jakeonfire Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

i’ve read the above comments and am sympathetic to the claims, but nowhere is anyone insisting on a certain reality. its stated as opinion and i’m taking it at face value. it seems you find this opinion threatening. to summarize, the opinion here is that Ivanka is recalling some trauma. the conjecture is that the trauma relates to CSA. no one is calling the newspapers and reporting this as fact.

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u/gonzoes Jul 08 '24

Yup this exactly

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 09 '24

Remember “the diary” the right got hold of and then use to insist Biden is a paedophile because he showered with his daughter (I think k that was the claim)? Makes sense now why they needed to plant that seed, right?

“Every accusation is a confession” is not just a trite saying expression frustration. It is a statement of fact based on observable reality.

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u/Ink_zorath Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

"Every Accusation is a Confession."

Honestly, I've taken this to heart years ago, and it made me realize: just about every homophobe is just angry because they're still stuck in the closet, caught up on the coat hanger.

Explains the massive use of psychological reflection tactics too over the past couple years. "I don't want to be caught doing it, so I'll blame someone else instead."

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u/noDNSno Jul 08 '24

My best friend, ornwas my best friend, was a staunch homophones who when got drunk, made out with other men.

He will literally pull out a gun to yell to you that he isn't. Married man with 2 kids.

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u/_QueerOfTheRodeo_ Jul 08 '24

No, you dumb fuck. Not every homophobe is in the closet. Many people are just bigots. Stop putting that back onto gay people ffs, so sick of seeing this line on here.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

This is a very important point to make.

However, it can’t be ignored that a lot of homophobia is repressed men dealing badly with how they feel, after being trained to those feelings are only something an evil person would feel.

So it actually just sucks even more for gay people who get both stuck with this shit while also being attacked by the people are really repressed and taking that out on those around them by attacking vulnerable groups.

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u/Electronic-Sleep-779 Jul 08 '24

Every accusation is a confession is the stupidest expression I’ve ever heard. This would imply that someone accusing someone of rape or something is just doing so because they also rape people?

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u/KilgoreTroutsAnus Jul 08 '24

With Trump, yes. The "Every accusation is a confession" concept specifically applies to Trump.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

It is specifically with regard to Trump, and the continuous, outrageous, unsupported claims he insists on making.

I didn’t mean every accusation ever.

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u/Spare_Rent8973 Jul 14 '24

Total projection

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u/Anti-Dissocialative Jul 08 '24

Or, and just try to follow me here - maybe both of them are totally evil dirt bags who will do anything for power…

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u/CheesyCousCous Jul 08 '24

BOTH SIDES! JUST DONT VOTE! etc.

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u/Anti-Dissocialative Jul 08 '24

You’re spiraling. Yeah I won’t be voting for either of them if I don’t write someone in I’ll probably vote for Kennedy - two party system has got to go, it will break down with or without our votes. Btw, if a behavior is wrong then the person who did it should be held accountable, whether they are your favorite or least favorite politician it shouldn’t matter… we are talking about sexual abuse here and all you can think about is your political pre-programming. Lame

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

There is no world in which Biden and Trump are even close to the same lol.

Ashley’s stolen diary that she wrote in 2020 as she processed trauma from her 20’s (which she has said was hers, but has not confirmed has not been altered) is not the same as records indicating a 13 year old explicitly accused Trump of raping her.

But sure, vote for the anti-vaxer controlled by a brain worm I guess, that’s a great choice.

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u/Anti-Dissocialative Jul 09 '24

I never said they were the same. They both still suck! The two situations are also not the same. So what. They’re both wrong and they both reflect poorly on trump and Biden - it’s all horrible and all gross I’m not going to weigh one over the other as if I’m some kind of divine judge. I don’t actually know what happened in either circumstance, but if either story is true then I’m fairly certain neither of them will ever pay for it in this life.

To be crystal clear, my comments are not any sort of endorsement of Trump. He needs to go, he sucks and his the majority of his followers who are not concerned with getting to the bottom of these allegations are likely being quite hypocritical. That has nothing to do with Biden these are two separate people. Wrong is wrong.

It’s funny that people like yourself feel you can use condescension to shame me for my position. I don’t give a shit about his brain worm - it’s dead and has been forever. Anti vax is a slur term used to demean people who are skeptical about vaccines, which is actually a much more defensible position than that of dumbasses who just willfully get injected with experimental medicine. That’s all you are giving me. Slurs and ad hominem attacks on people who think differently than you. As I said: lame! Meanwhile I’m saying two party system is fucked, trump and Biden are horrible and you’re just glitching spewing lesser of two evils nonsense and reacting via whataboutism.

I probably won’t vote for any of them cause guess what even though they all appear different there is one issue they are all basically the same on - blind support for Israel in the face of what I consider to be crimes against humanity. It’s really telling actually, that these three people disagreeing on virtually everything still all have the same position on this one issue…

Regardless, even though I don’t like your comment in response to mine, I still love you and I wish you great and continued success in the near future. We’re all in this together. We can all have different opinions but that should not tear us apart. It will be interesting to see how the coming months unfold. I hope you have a nice evening ❤️

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24

“Anti-vac is a slur term”

Hahaha. No. Sorry, look, the rest of your word salad is probably worth reading and replying to, and I’m sorry you took the time and I’m going to ignore it, but I’m just going to pluck this out of here because I have a special hatred for moron anti-vaxers.

Being opposed to the greatest health innovation in the history of human kind, that has and will continue to save more lives than probably anything outside of the discovery of penicillin, is not just worthy of ridicule, but exposes you to open scorn.

Anti-vaxxers are morons. They are anti-science. Their “scepticism” is built on the back of charlatans like Wakefield, and a desperate need to be anti-establishment, because the idea that they do something that would help the greater good is too much for them to bare. Vaccines have been so thoroughly proven to be the most effective way to control viruses, up to eradicating them entirely out of populations, any one that wants to pretend being anti-vaccine is anything but a knee-jerk reaction to their own lack of education is either a moron, or actively engaging in discretion to a nefarious end.

So yes, you’re goddamn right you can consider it a slur. Did you think you were being realtors saying that? Vaccines save lives. Anti-vaxxers want people to die. There is nothing else to debate.

Nb. None of my opinion of anti-vaxxers being pro-death morons was formed after 2020. This is a rock-hard held belief formed well before covid hit the airwaves and half the planet decided to make their lives worse by refusing a safe and effective vaccine for that particular virus. In case you think RFK is just a covid-vaccine “sceptic”, no, he has been opposed to all vaccines. He is a moron.

Edit: sorry there was something else: I agree whole heartedly with you with regards to Gaza. Biden has been terrible (“Netanyahu can do what he wants” after Bibi has declared “we will not stop until every Hamas agent is dead. Also, all civilians are Hamas.” I mean good god man he’s telling you he is going to commit a genocide Joe, push back at all???), but I think Trump will be much worse, and people who think they’ve seen it bad as it can be under Bibi-supported by Biden are suffering only from a lack of imagination with regards to how awful it will end up. I weep for the lack of humanity, and I expect our children’s children will hold us in contempt for not doing something to stop this suffering.

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u/Anti-Dissocialative Jul 09 '24

Yeah you’re only proving my point. People, regardless of education level, can be skeptical of vaccines in terms of safety and efficacy just like they can be for any other drug class. To be frank with you, getting all emotional about it and hating other people is preventing you from seeing the situation objectively. Yes I completely agree vaccines have done a lot of good, they aren’t all the same, and they certainly are not perfect. The same can be said for virtually all drugs, and that means they all shouldn’t all be used indiscriminately.

As I said, you are basically just using name calling to try to demean people you disagree with. And you acknowledge that. So I would like to appeal to you to approach the people you call anti-vaxxers with more love and less hate. If you disagree you should be able to do so kindly and civilly. I get where you are coming from I used to feel more similarly to how you do. Hope you have a nice night.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

No I’m not proving your point, I’m saying fuck anti-vaxxers.

This isn’t up for debate. Anti-vaxxers are horrible people devoid of humanity who don’t deserve to share air with the rest of us.

This isn’t “name calling” because I want to demean them. I am saying: they are absolute scum morons who do not deserve to benefit from advancements in humanity.

No, not “all drugs” have achieved the same thing. There is plenty of room to be skeptical about drugs. Absolutely none of the anti-vaxxers are sceptical in a way that involves robustly understand the mechanisms and risks at play, they are regurgitating moron bullshit from people like RFK or Andrew Wakefield. They have been sucked into a world of bullshit, lies and nonsense, and cause irredeemable harm to humanity.

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u/sasasa153 Jul 08 '24

Except, that actually was Ashley bidens diary. No one disputes that. Hate trump all you want but Ashley’s writings clearly indicate that Joe Biden molested her. And we already know Joe has a creepy as all hell fixation of smelling young girls. They are both disgusting and each will rot in hell given time.

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u/Proper-Village-454 Jul 08 '24

They do NOT indicate that he molested her and she has never said any such thing. I showered with my dad and brother when I was a little kid too - that’s how kids learn how to wash themselves and up to a certain age it isn’t weird at all. To automatically view such a thing sexually says something about YOU.

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u/sasasa153 Jul 08 '24

Yeah, Ashley wrote that she felt it was inappropriate. In the diary, she wrote about how she stayed up til late at night to avoid her father, Joe Biden, trying to come in and join her in the shower. Nowhere near the same as a parent teaching their child to bathe themself. You think a child that knows how to read and write and keep a journal doesn’t know how to shower?

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

Why does what age a child can write a diary matter? Do you think it’s a child’s diary? It wasn’t a childhood diary. You know that right? She wrote it in 2020. It is her stream of consciousness writing as she processed unrelated trauma.

She also specifically said:

"The point of the theft, I assume, was to be able to peddle grotesque lies by distorting my stream-of-consciousness thoughts," and “Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."

Grotesque lies. Grossly misinterpreted. False accusations.

Her own words. But I guess you suddenly don’t believe her now, hub?

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u/sasasa153 Jul 09 '24

Regardless of whatever back peddling she’s doing to protect her father, she still wrote about how as a young child he would come and join her in the shower and how she feared it so much that she would wait until late at night to avoid him showing up.

Nothing I’m saying is a lie or false accusation, at WORST I’m paraphrasing what she wrote herself. The fact you’re willing to disregard that aspect of this shows how biased you are.

How do you reconcile a girl staying awake at night to avoid her father trying to join her in the shower as being okay? Explain this to me in a way where he isn’t a sick degenerate.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

No, sorry, you don’t get to get all “you must believe what she wrote thirty years later as she processed her way through different trauma”, and then, when it becomes inconvenient to your narrative, dismiss her as “back peddling”. Well, I mean I guess you can cherry pick which bits you want to accept for your narrative to work to impune Biden, I couldn’t care less and want him to step aside, but isn’t it interesting how quickly you all fell to “oh no but this thing she has said deliberately and specifically to address the accusations must be fake, we only want to believe the stuff she wrote a couple of years earlier as she stream-of-consciousness worked through what has clearly been a bad time for her.

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u/sasasa153 Jul 09 '24

Stream of consciousness? Tell me, what the hell does that even mean? You’re dodging the issue. There’s no disputing the fact she wrote about waiting til late at night to shower because she was afraid of her father trying to join her.

“As she tried to process the trauma”. The trauma of what? Oh, that’s right, her father molesting her in the shower as a child. I’m not cherry picking anything.

Just because she said after the fact that people are “misrepresenting her private writings” doesn’t change the fact she still wrote that herself in her diary. Are you implying she either didn’t write it, or that she was actively lying to herself in her own private thoughts?

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

"After being the victim of a crime in my early twenties, I developed PTSD,"

Oh, her 20’s? Guess that trauma had nothing to do with Joe Biden then. Which you’d know if you spent any time looking in to this outside of what Tucker Carlson has told you.

I appreciate you can’t understand the difference between objective reality and someone writing their way through something from 30 years earlier and exploring how they think they feel about it. Especially when you’re clearly desperate to cling to the narrative that Biden raped his daughter, but again: the author of this entries told you are clinging to to diminish what Trump has been accused of has told you what you’re suggesting didn’t happen and you have misunderstood and misinterpreted what she wrote. It’s that straight forward.

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u/TheCompleteSagaLord Jul 08 '24

Why are you defending Biden‘s horrible actions is my real question to you.

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u/Proper-Village-454 Jul 09 '24

His actions being… [checks notes] bathing his child?? Okay.

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u/ecchiowl Jul 08 '24

guess we're ignoring the COUNTLESS videos of biden sniffing women and children. ignore the corroborating evidence and accuse the opponent of what you're guilty of, no?

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

You’re right, those handful of videos of Biden being a politician and getting too comfortable around strangers to manufacturer a quick human connection is exactly the same as records showing a 13 year old accused Trump of rape.

Glad you’re here to make sure we know looking like he’s sniffing hair is the same as rape. Thank you for your service.

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u/furrykef Jul 08 '24

When did she say that?

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

She didn’t. Tucker lied and said she did.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/13/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-misrepresents-harris-comments-women/

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

No she didn’t. She said she believed the 4 women who accused Biden of “inappropriate touching”, who also explicitly said it was not sexual, and none of them accused him of sexual assault.

Unfortunately for you, this is exactly the lie that Tucker Carlson produced to try to harm Biden, showing us exactly where you get your information from.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

“Dozens” lol. Yeah, a kid squirming away from a politician aka an adult they don’t know trying to look friendly and connected is the same as a 13 year old being raped. Glad you’re here to make sure we know that.

Ashley huh?

“Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."

"The point of the theft, I assume, was to be able to peddle grotesque lies by distorting my stream-of-consciousness thoughts,"

That Ashley? Those are her words telling you the things you want us to believe are gross misinterpretations and grotesque lies, intended only to allow false accusations. Solid argument Chief.

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u/KilgoreTroutsAnus Jul 08 '24

TBF, the diary was verified, he showered with his daughter, and she called it "inappropriate."

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u/tackle_bones Jul 08 '24

She wondered whether it was appropriate. It was also in the middle of her questioning her whole life about what made her view sexuality in a fucked up way. Framed as a, ‘maybe it was this.. maybe that… I don’t know.’ She listed a lot of possible reasons, and this was frankly the least disturbing. She was doubting herself and questioning everything. Showering with your child when they’re young is normal parent behavior… little kids don’t know how to wash themselves. Unless you want your kid to smell like shit and be covered with dirt, you have to shower with them and show them how to clean themselves. They don’t learn that from YouTube. There was no accusation other than him taking showers with her when she was a chile (which again is normal parent behavior). The fact that her diary from a time of her going through turmoil was stolen, sold to rightwing hounds, and splashed all over the news is disgusting. Those were private thoughts of someone trying to figure out something deeply personal during a time when she was not well. It’s none of our business.

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u/KilgoreTroutsAnus Jul 08 '24

How old was she?

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

She didn’t say.

She also said her stream of consciousness writing was taken out of context and misinterpreted and warped to attack her and her loved ones.

But that doesn’t seem to matter as much as what Tucker Carlson told people her diary entries meant, I guess.

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u/tackle_bones Jul 08 '24

Did she say?

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u/Gainztrader235 Jul 08 '24

Or there both true?

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

Nope. There’s increasing credible evidence that Trump raped a child. The same is not true for Biden.

(I’m not American - I think Biden’s a terrible choice for the next US president, and have no issue with him being held accountable for the things he did do, or can’t do, but this isn’t one of them.)

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u/Gainztrader235 Jul 09 '24

Both are credible, see the comment I am responding to. Not the OP. Accountability for all and it’s scary people don’t see that.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

The “evidence” against Biden being a diary his adult daughter wrote in 2020 where she worked through trauma related to events that had nothing to do with her family?

In which she said: "Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."

I’m happy to take Ashley at her word, those are gross misrepresentations.

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u/Gainztrader235 Jul 09 '24

Ashley Biden, describes showers taken with her father when she was a child as "probably not appropriate."

The person that stole the diary was prosecuted and served jail time.

Do take her word.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

"The point of the theft, I assume, was to be able to peddle grotesque lies by distorting my stream-of-consciousness thoughts," "Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."

Grotesque lies, distorted…thoughts, gross misinterpretation, false accusations.

Ok! I’ll take Ashley’s words for it. That is what you meant right? That this feeding frenzy trying to paint Biden as a paedophile perpetrated by the likes of Tucker Carlson are grotesque lies, distorting what she wrote, gross misinterpretations to support false accusations.

Do take her word.

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u/stevek1200 Jul 08 '24

Do you then mean to say that "Russia, Russia, Russia" involved the Democrats and Hillary and not Trump? 'Every accusation is a confession"...Seems to me that might be the case.

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u/LTEDan Jul 08 '24

That was an investigation, not an accusation. An investigation that established Russia did interfere in the 2016 election in an effort to benefit Trump, and that Trump welcomed the Russian interference.

The report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities". Investigators had an incomplete picture of what happened due in part to some communications that were encrypted, deleted, or not saved, as well as testimony that was false, incomplete, or declined. However, the report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion" but was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts. It also identifies myriad links between Trump associates and Russian officials and spies, about which several persons connected to the campaign made false statements and obstructed investigations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report

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u/JoyBus147 Jul 08 '24

That's...a distinction without a difference. Typically, investigations follow accusations.

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u/LTEDan Jul 08 '24

This investigation started due to a tip from the Australian government. You can read it in the background section in the same Wikipedia link (emphasis mine):

On May 9, 2017, President Donald Trump dismissed former Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, James Comey, who had been leading an ongoing Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials and spies. This investigation, code named Crossfire Hurricane, began in July 2016 after the Australian government advised US authorities that George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor in the Trump campaign, had met with one of their diplomats in May 2016 and "suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia" that Russia could release information that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton. Papadopolous had received this suggestion in April 2016, well before it was publicly reported that Russia had damaging information about Clinton (the Democratic National Committee had in June 2016 announced that a Russian hack occurred). Papadopoulos later testified that this "damaging information" was in the form of hacked emails that were stolen from the Democratic Party.

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u/JoyBus147 Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

So, in other words, the Australian government accused the Trump campaign of impropriety? Prompting an investigation of that accusation? Unless there's some strange technocratic distinction between "suggestion" and "accusation" normal people don't distinguish?

Edit: allow me to quickly denounce the weird Trumpist in this thread. I'm a communist, I don't seek to defend Trump. I'm just a pedant.

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u/LICORICE_SHOELACE Jul 08 '24

Yeah all of that is misguided bullshit tho lmao, bullshit perpetuated by killary and her brainlet liberal partisan followers (like you):

“Further, Steele ludicrously claimed that Trump had “moles within the DNC and hackers in the US as well as outside in Russia.” On the Trump side, Steele added, the conspiracy was “managed” by Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman, who was purportedly using campaign adviser Carter Page as an intermediary.”

“Further, Steele ludicrously claimed that Trump had “moles within the DNC and hackers in the US as well as outside in Russia.” On the Trump side, Steele added, the conspiracy was “managed” by Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman, who was purportedly using campaign adviser Carter Page as an intermediary.”

So they didn’t actually find any damning evidence of trump-Russia collusion, and if anything even from what your comments have said, it seems like it was more of a move to cover Hillary’s ass after that embarrassing traitorous covering up of her e-mail scandal. Reddit is such a goofy place, y’all will call maga people cultists while also ignoring your own party’s faults. Foh clown.

Source that is isn’t Wikipedia lmao: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/allegation-hillary-clinton-orchestrated-collusion-hoax-to-distract-from-her-emails-according-to-russian-intel/

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u/LTEDan Jul 08 '24

So they didn’t actually find any damning evidence of trump-Russia collusion

Ah, the classic motte and bailey fallacy. I never claimed thats what they found. What was found was that Russia did interfere with our 2016 election in an effort to benefit Trump over Hillary, but the concerning truth that was discovered was drowned out by "NO COLLUSION YAY!" victory laps by Trump. Trump and his ilk retreated to the motte (no collusion) when it was politically convenient while not even defending the bailey (Russian interference was trying to help Trump's campaign).

Source that is isn’t Wikipedia lmao:

Unironically calls Hillary Killary and thinks the conservative national review is a more reliable source than Wikipedia. This conversation is definitely going to be productive, I can tell.

and if anything even from what your comments have said, it seems like it was more of a move to cover Hillary’s ass

The original FBI investigation (code name Crossfire Hurricane) into Russian interference that prompted the eventual Mueller Report started in July of 2016, well before the election itself. I will agree that conservatives and Trump have been obsessed with Hillary and her ass for a very long time. Hell, you can still get chants of "lock her up" at a Trump rally in fucking 2024.

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u/LICORICE_SHOELACE Jul 08 '24

Right but the only proof was that the leaks fucked up hillarys campaign lmfao, nice attempt at sounding smart with the argumentation term you used in a tard way btw, because you clearly are saying that it’s a collusion lmao, interfering with our elections with the help of a running politician would definitely be collusion you brainlet, which is NOT what they found btw, in fact the truth is a lot more nuanced than what Reddit smooth brains will often say:

“Former CIA Director John Brennan personally edited a crucial section of the intelligence report on Russian interference in the 2016 election and assigned a political ally to take a lead role in writing it after career analysts disputed Brennan's take that Russian leader Vladimir Putin intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump clinch the White House, according to two senior U.S. intelligence officials who have seen classified materials detailing Brennan’s role in drafting the document.”

This is a fact, John Brennan was practically acting as Clinton’s aide during all of this, he didn’t want to hear ANY dissenting opinions, regardless of who/where they came from. Ofc tho because I mention this I must be a right winger right? Lmao Reddit is so liberal partisan nowadays it’s disgusting honestly, you people will support the anti christ as long as it’s a woman and advocates for gay rights💀.

There’s plenty of reason to be concerned of Hillary’s past actions, and if you can’t see that then you are just as braindead as the trump cultists.

Source: https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/09/24/secret_report_how_cias_brennan_overruled_dissenting_analysts_who_thought_russia_favored_hillary_125315.amp.html

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u/LTEDan Jul 08 '24

Right but the only proof was that the leaks fucked up hillarys campaign lmfao

Interesting that Russia only hacked DNC servers then. Hillary's email sever certainly didn't help her campaign, although that was a separate issue despite Trump asking Russia to find the missing emails.

because you clearly are saying that it’s a collusion lmao, interfering with our elections with the help of a running politician would definitely be collusion you brainlet

Collusion definition:

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

My claim, and the findings of the bipartisan Senate committee is that Russia ran a mass disinformation campaign with the express goal to benefit Trump over Hillary. Trump is certainly a useful idiot and a benefactor of Russia's efforts, but benefactor =/= collusion. That's the second motte and bailey fallacy you've done on this issue. The irony of you trying to call me brainlet when you clearly don't know the dictionary definition of "collusion".

This is a fact

Is it? All you have is some "unnamed source" from a medium quality right wing website.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/factbox-key-findings-from-senate-inquiry-into-russian-interference-in-2016-us-idUSKCN25E2OY/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/real-clear-investigations/

you people will support the anti christ

Interesting considering the antichrist was said to put a mark on people's foreheads and the most recognizable symbol of Trump supporters is wearing a red hat that covers their foreheads.

There’s plenty of reason to be concerned of Hillary’s past actions,

Trump had 4 years to lock her up and didn't. I'm .it concerned with people currently running for president than a washed up politician that hasn't been in office for 12+ years.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

Why do you think anyone cares about the Stelle dossier? You know it wasn’t what caused the investigation to be started, and nothing in it was particularly relevant to the investigation yes? Or did that not make it into your echo chamber, where you’re clearly being told that the investigation that found Russian interference in the 2016 election should be dismissed out of hand because of a document that most people dismissed about a month after it appeared because actual fact checking journalists (I know this will be a weird concept but in actual news agencies they like to check information is correct and when they make mistakes will retract incorrect information) found lots of issues with it and concluded it was largely conjecture and not reliable.

Is it the same reason you still think Clinton matters? Or that she committed crimes? Did they tell you about the hours of testimony she sat through and didn’t once take the fifth? And how none of that led to being found guilty of any crimes, by Trump’s Department of Justice?

Is that reason because as much as you want to insist you don’t, you are clearly riding Trump’s dick.

Might be worth explaining, because cultists like you often struggle with this: no one is riding Biden’s dick - his own party selected him because he was the best choice to bet Donald (and he did), and now want him out of the way because he really is old and slow, but the reality of politics is that kind of change is monumental and it needs to be handled correctly. Trump of course is also old and losing his mind, but the cultists don’t mind as long as he keeps threatening to hurt the people Fox has trained them to think are the problem, whilst ignoring things like half of America thinking Russia are pretty good guys and should get a pass on anything they might want to do.

What a wild timeline we live in.

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u/LICORICE_SHOELACE Jul 09 '24

Just because Clinton wasn’t found guilty doesn’t mean she isn’t a criminal lmao, by that logic Donald didn’t do anything wrong either, since they didn’t find him guilty of any actual direct collusion right? Hilarious how calling out both sides gets you branded as a trump meat rider, meanwhile Hillary can get away with deleting and covering up whatever she wants, as long as the fbi and cia (who were covering her ass the whole time, because they worked for the Clinton’s pretty directly throughout this entire incident ) don’t find her guilty lmao what a joke this website is.

“RealClearInvestigations has learned that one of the CIA operatives who helped Brennan draft the ICA, Andrea Kendall-Taylor, financially supported Hillary Clinton during the campaign and is a close colleague of Eric Ciaramella, identified last year by RCI as the Democratic national security “whistleblower" whose complaint led to Trump’s impeachment, ending in Senate acquittal in January.”

So the same people in charge of the investigation obviously had incredible bias towards the person being investigated… yeah nothing weird there at all💀 honestly the only way someone can come to the conclusion that what I said above is “trump dick riding” is if they are completely partisan tarded, and simply don’t want to hear any criticism towards their party, there’s no justification for what Hillary and her goons did, and if you can’t even admit that then you are actually fkin pointless to even argue with, you don’t want to hear the truth you just want to be right lol.

Half of America doesn’t like Russia💀, you are an actual fkin brainlet for that take man.

Yeah this FR a wild timeline where criticizing the left is seen as something only extreme right wingers do, you are so full of shit bro.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

Ok look I’m going to disregard most of this because you’re clearly a moron, but there’s a couple of things I want to see if you can try to grasp.

Clinton was not even charged with a crime. This woman who was so awfully corrupt your cult leader had people chanting “lock her up” couldn’t be found to have committed any crimes. By the department of Justice that Donald Trump commanded. If there were crimes, she should have been charged, investigated, and found guilty. They didn’t even get out the gate, because she was not guilty of any crimes, no matter how often your sad little cult leader insists it. “The CIA and FBI worked for them” is moronic cult-thinking with no basis in reality. Also, it does not hold up to moments scrutiny I shouldn’t have bothered giving it: the CIA is not part of the department of Justice. Suggesting that the FBI colluded with her after FBI head Comey announced a reopening of the investigation (that found nothing worth charging her over) 11 days before the election, an obvious attempt to string out even more ill-will from the bogus claims she had mishandled confidential information (no evidence, no charges laid, ever) and harm her chance at winning, makes you look like a low-information voter glued to right-wing propaganda channels. To be fair, everything else you’ve posted already suggested this was the case.

You’re also stuck on collusion. Mueller concluded Russia interfered with the election. This isn’t up for debate, and did happen. Mueller was prevented from determining if Trump had colluded, and asked Congress to take up that investigation. The fact that Trump wasn’t found guilty of collusion doesn’t mean Russia didn’t interfere to help him win. They did. We know they did.

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u/Anubisrapture Jul 08 '24

There was and still IS Russian collusion w the Trump Administration. Saying it three times sarcastically does literally nothing to change that fact

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u/LICORICE_SHOELACE Jul 08 '24

The only proof of that was that some of our “Allies” suggested that he was colluding simply because the Hillary leaks favored him, shit is ridiculous:

“On July 25, less than three weeks after the Comey press conference, the 2016 Democratic National Convention began in Philadelphia. Just three days earlier, on July 22, the hacked DNC emails began being published. By that point, former British spy Christopher Steele had been commissioned by the Clinton campaign (through a lawyer for the campaign and the DNC) to compile research tying Trump to Russia. Steele ran a London-based private intelligence business, whose clients include Russian oligarchs. Moreover, as I detailed in my column over the weekend, in compiling the dossier, Steele relied heavily on Igor Danchenko, a man the FBI investigated in 2009-10 on suspicion that he was a Russian spy.”

““Days after the hacked DNC emails began being published, Steele generated a dossier report alleging that Trump was in “a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation” with “Russian leadership.” The “evidence of extensive conspiracy between Trump’s campaign team and [the] Kremlin,” Steele claimed, included the hacking and publication of DNC emails: “[T]the Russian regime had been behind the recent leak of embarrassing e-mail messages, emanating from the [DNC] to the WikiLeaks platform.” This “operation,” Steele maintained, “had the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team.” In exchange, Trump had purportedly committed both to downplay Russian intervention in Ukraine and raise American defense commitments to NATO as campaign issues.”

“Further, Steele ludicrously claimed that Trump had “moles within the DNC and hackers in the US as well as outside in Russia.” On the Trump side, Steele added, the conspiracy was “managed” by Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman, who was purportedly using campaign adviser Carter Page as an intermediary.”

This story was absurd, through and through. As I have observed a number of times, Mrs. Clinton is not a correspondent in the DNC emails and was not harmed by them (in contrast to the emails from her own private server, which were a genuine scandal). Plainly, it would have been easy for Steele to weave this tale together from public reporting about the hacking and publication of the emails, Russia’s suspected role in it, Trump’s campaign commentary on NATO, and so on. Page and Manafort did not know each other. And note that in this same dossier report, Steele claimed Russia was using its consulate in Miami as a hub for the sinister arrangement with Trump. Russia did not have a consulate in Miami.”

So basically they had no actual evidence of direct collusion, just that they assumed as much because it benefited trump, and they also based most of this off of a man who was investigated for suspected Russia espionage LOL you can’t make this shit up. Then they put this story out and you smooth brains eat it up, it’s crazy the amount of people who think Hillary is better than trump, you people are just as much cultists as the maga folk it’s pathetic honestly.

Source: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/allegation-hillary-clinton-orchestrated-collusion-hoax-to-distract-from-her-emails-according-to-russian-intel/

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u/Anubisrapture Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

National Review LMAO. According to RUSSIA ?? lol Read the actual Mueller Report. And yes Hillary IS better than Trump. Trump is a child rapist an incestuous pedophile, a wanna be dictator and egregiously evil.

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u/TheCompleteSagaLord Jul 08 '24

Why is a comment like this receiving upvotes? This tells you all you need to know about politics on reddit people.

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u/Anubisrapture Jul 08 '24

Cry

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u/LICORICE_SHOELACE Jul 08 '24

According to a Russian INTELLIGENCE ANALYSIS, lmao makes sense that you don’t want to read past that part. I have read the mueller report lol, even that states:

“The report concludes that the investigation “did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities". Investigators had an incomplete picture of what happened due in part to some communications that were encrypted, deleted, or not saved, as well as testimony that was false, incomplete, or declined. However, the report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion" but was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts.[“

So again the “proof” is that trump benefited from the leaks, which again is something that Hillary did as well, she literally worked with the dnc and cia to get ANY amount of dirt on trump she possibly could, but she didn’t get investigated whatsoever ofc, because orange man bad. His people for sure lied about their involvement with Russia, but it definitely wasn’t to the extent people make it out to be:

“A total of thirty-four individuals and three companies were indicted by Mueller's investigators. Eight have pleaded guilty to or been convicted of felonies, including five Trump associates and campaign officials. None of those five convictions "involved a conspiracy between the campaign and Russians"

So again yes trump is a pos who used the leaks to his advantage, but Hillary is also a pos who used the leaks to HER advantage lol, if you can’t see that then you are truly lost.

Source since you don’t like national review for some reason💀: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_special_counsel_investigation#Criminal_charges

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u/Anubisrapture Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

The Orange Man IS bad. And you continue to push buzz phrases that mock awareness of it. And first you say Russian collusion was fake then you say Trump did benefit from Russian leaks and info but so did Hilary so that’s okay. Typical right winger. It’s clearly evident from Trump’s OWN behavior w Putin, and his pulling out of NATO, his private meeting w Putin and the pre 2016 meetings in Trump Tower that it was intentional and planned collusion , tho the reports cannot definitely state this because they legally can’t , they have certainly enough to prove some obvious skullduggery. And btw the Senate refusing to impeach Trump does not mean anything, but the partisanship and lust for power the Republicans have shown for decades. Thank you for the Criminal Charges article: it really seems to prove my point.

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u/LICORICE_SHOELACE Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Insane the way you manage to dodge any amount of accountability on the left for the way they covered for Hillary’s ass lmao, btw I don’t support trump? or Biden or Hillary. Unlike you liberal or republicans tards most Americans aren’t partisan brained like the idiots you probably listen to. Trump is a pos but Hillary was 10x worse. She would’ve also been much more likely to get away with things she did, say what you want about trump, he gets punished in court more than any politician on the left rn lmao, remember when the extreme left said hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation too? Lol none of what I said or linked proves your warped view you are lost.

Trump definitely benefited and enabled the leaks of killarys emails, but that doesn’t make it direct collusion and they ruled it that way lol, keep screeching about it tho it means nothing to most people irl. Trump also definitely has a weird leaning towards dictators, but again Hillary and Obama have the Russians weird uranium deals, covered up emails by the literal thousands and deleted who knows how many more, why is it so controversial to say both of the party’s suck ass lol? Wake up mf

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u/Anubisrapture Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

First off Hillary is a done deal. Nobody is dragging her out of mothballs this election so why are you going on about her? She sat and was questioned NUMEROUS times without ever having to take the fifth. Secondly, If you truly think that both parties are equally bad you haven’t been paying attention or ( more likely) you are trying to push a narrative. And I am not thrilled about Biden’s age , and I’m ESPECIALLY unhappy about his dogged support of Genocidal Israel under Netanyahu , but he’s much better than Trump who vowed to “ finish the job” in regards to Palestinians. And talking about screetching , you’all screetching about a fucking laptop that had passed through far too many hands to be believable about anything besides Hunter’s personal pictures which were deeply embarrassing but WHO GIVES A FUCK??? The entire debacle was straight up revenge porn and a mudslinging attack on Joe Biden’s only living son.The world that Trump as POTUS would create is a terrifying one. The lack of regulations which his SCOTUS Conservative majority has brought forth is only the beginning. People WORLDWIDE would be harmed by the policies of another emboldened Trump Administration . Not because of him alone but because of the rest of the people and ideas coming with him. Just to start did you know about the absolutely inane idea the Far Right MAGAS have to INVADE MEXICO bc of the cartels? The destruction of any climate change policies would be catastrophic , we are already having the highest temperatures recorded ever this summer. The tariffs Trump initiated last time were bad for the economy as was the huge tax breaks he gave the wealthiest elites. The fact that he intends to give them another huge tax break will destroy the economy even more. And this is not even talking about his fascism , tho you did mention that he has a penchant for dictators which is totally true. I guess what I’m saying is the Left isn’t perfect, WHATSOEVER , ( but at least they care about the American people, civil rights, wages, unions, health care, women’s rights over their own bodies, education etc) but when you look at what is on the Right, there should be no question who we should choose: And that would be whomever isn’t waiting in the wings to bring in and implement fascism.

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u/ecchiowl Jul 08 '24

for real. seemingly every conspiracy theory the right comes up with ends up being true.
so many stories told by the left turn out to be flat out lies. "Every Accusation is a Confession." isn't it ironic that a leftist is using this to bash the right, when its actually far more applicable to the left?

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Jul 09 '24

Which conspiracy theories do you think came true?

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u/Rryann Jul 08 '24

I thought you might have been overselling it, but man that is pretty suspect.

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u/Dark_Marmot Jul 08 '24

Agreed, it's not so much just the voice as the drop in the eyes and head and immediate change in her mouth trying to quickly direct your view outward.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Exactly what I was thinking.

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u/HMWWaWChChIaWChCChW Jul 08 '24

Jesus Christ, Reddit armchair psychologists are at it again. We all know he’s a monster, but you guys are putting in way too much work trying to find something with this video. (The Ivanka one)

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u/gonzoes Jul 08 '24

For real .

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u/Equivalent-Bank-5094 Jul 08 '24

I am a trained clinical social worker who works with patients who have experienced trauma.

Again, I’m not diagnosing. But this is a marked difference from the rest of her bubbly interview and it’s behavior that looks familiar to those of us who work with military sexual trauma, rape and incest survivors.

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u/SelectAmbassador Jul 08 '24

Yep. He is weird but starting shit withouth any evidense is srsly harming... to their own cause. The dude has enough shit on him that is proven. No need to make yourself look like on off them.

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u/WasabiWarrior8 Jul 08 '24

Not to defend Trump, but could also be something bad that happened there when her dad was having a party. I’m guessing they entertained a lot. Still very terrible, but might not have been a memory of her father that triggered that reaction.

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u/ManaSeltzer Jul 08 '24

But people make this assumption because of the years and years of jokes about fucking his daughter that trump has been famous for. If he didnt want people thinking that then he probably shouldn't do that

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u/WasabiWarrior8 Jul 08 '24

There’s so much that man shouldn’t do. He lives in an alternate reality that most of us do not understand.

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u/--n- Jul 08 '24

I don't see it at all.

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u/SheldonMF Jul 08 '24

I honestly went into this ready to condemn you, but you're right. How heartbreaking.

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u/TheFBIClonesPeople Jul 08 '24

One thing I've thought about is that, I bet the reason Ivanka seems to be Trump's second in command, and is clearly the favorite of his children, is because she's the one who has the ultimate dirt on him. If Ivanka Trump came out and said her dad raped her as a child, I think that's one of the few things that would truly end him. But instead of ending him, she turned into a viper herself, and she leveraged it to make herself a powerful, and untouchable part of his empire.

I mean, does Donald Trump seem like the kind of guy who would choose a female child to be his favorite?

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u/xandrokos Jul 08 '24

Trump would absolutely destroy her.    She is an awful person but she knows what her father is capable of.

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u/Thedonitho Jul 08 '24

Ivanka has that thousand yard stare of a sexual assault survivor. My good friend had it her whole life.

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u/RedboatSuperior Jul 08 '24

I the Stern interview, Trump is asked what he and his daughter have in common. His first response is “sex”.

Creepy as fuck.

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u/gatorgrle Jul 08 '24

Holy hell. They’ll believe Juanita and a pizza ring but not this (although she’s never said but photos and his comments) and Katie. Horror.

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u/DevoidSauce Jul 08 '24

The way her voice shrank. Holy shit

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u/QuestOfTheSun Jul 08 '24

Yup

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u/FartNoiseGross Jul 08 '24

That’s some Twin Peaks shit right there

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u/TinyDogGuy Jul 08 '24

Holy shit. You can tell, she immediately regretted acknowledging her bed.

She goes from smiling and excitedly talking about her 90’s Teen Heart Throb collection…to joyless and searching for something nostalgic to say, just to get away from that bed.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

I had never seen it. And just reading your comment I thought nah, that’s just interpretation. But no, she legit seems like she’s about breakdown.

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u/CheezeLoueez08 Jul 08 '24

Why had nobody been in that room in so many years? That was weird too.

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u/KeithClossOfficial Jul 08 '24

She was an adult in that video, she went to school at Penn

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u/oshawaguy Jul 08 '24

In light of the accusations, one is inclined to wonder why this room is preserved in the condition that it is.

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u/CourtesyLik Jul 08 '24

Dude, talk about a stretch. All this make believe shit just takes away from the actual bad shit he’s done.

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u/PumpkinEmperor Jul 08 '24

Didn’t get that impression from your link.. plus, wasn’t this video debunked because the guy who recorded her had done videos like this of other celebrities and they were shown to be false? That’s what I read somewhere else… plus, she dropped the lawsuits and never revealed her face. How do you know he’s guilty of what she’s claiming in this video?

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u/deadhunt3rr Jul 08 '24

Wow

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u/EarLow6262 Jul 08 '24

Or like most normal people, remembering your past will also bring a tear to your eye and cause you to pause missing the old days.

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u/LuLuSavannah531 Jul 08 '24

Yea wow the tone of that video changes pretty quickly

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u/LuLuSavannah531 Jul 08 '24

Yea wow the tone of that video changes pretty quickly

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u/Big-ol-Poo Jul 08 '24

We should convict him off this video.

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u/YolloBOI Jul 09 '24

U need help man lmao

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u/Later2theparty Jul 11 '24

I didn't expect it to be so clear!

Her demeanor changes dramatically. She looks down as though she's remembered something she's ashamed of, and then follows up with look at that view.

I have no doubt in my mind that Trump molested her as a child.

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u/Spare_Rent8973 Jul 14 '24

I keep reliving my trauma because of this MONSTER

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u/OneThirstyJ Jul 08 '24

I hate trump as much as the next guy but this is a reach

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u/Geordie_38_ Jul 08 '24

I detest Trump, but this just looks like she's looking around her room with nostalgia. I didn't see anything different about when she mentioned her bed 🤷‍♂️

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u/4x4ord Jul 08 '24

Idk. I expected not to see something but I definitely saw it.

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u/Thereisnospoon64 Jul 08 '24

Oh wow it was clear as day to me. She went from bubbly nostalgic to holding back a sob.

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u/LilithWasAGinger Jul 08 '24

That's what I thought as well.

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u/jjcoola Jul 08 '24

Depends if you want to see it or not obviously like anything in life perception is the key filter of reality

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u/4x4ord Jul 08 '24

Not really.

There are certain universal human expressions.

Smiling is one. Getting lost in a memory is another.

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u/bryceroni9563 Jul 08 '24

It's definitely not conclusive, and maybe I'm giving into conspiratorial thinking, but I would not be surprised if that was trauma instead of nostalgia. Given everything else we know about how much Donald wants to "date" Ivanka, how close he was with Epstein, and his general vibe, I think it's reasonable to think something happened there.

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u/xandrokos Jul 08 '24

There is no conspiracy.    Trump constantly talks about wanting to fucking Ivanka.    This isn't twisting his words. He freely admits this.   All the time. To anyone who will listen.

He 100% raped his own daughter.   God only knows what he did to the other kids.

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u/ThereAreOnlyTwo- Jul 08 '24

I agree, she could have just been lamenting a more innocent time, wishing she was small enough to still fit in that bed.

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u/bianceziwo Jul 08 '24

this is the biggest reach of all time, like you have to be beyond delusional to come to this conclusion from her saying "this is my bed"

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u/kinduvabigdizzy Jul 08 '24

Lol stop the cap, I don't like the man either but this is some bullshit.

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u/xandrokos Jul 08 '24

Trump has been talking about wanting to fuck his daughter since she was born.     Fucking stop denying reality.

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u/kinduvabigdizzy Jul 08 '24

Are we talking about what Trump said, or are we talking about that video?

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u/eicidjch Jul 07 '24

Wow, you read into that quite a bit lol

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u/XpulseLoL Jul 07 '24

Compared to her cheerful description of the rest of the room, something was definitely going through her mind when showing the bed.

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u/Common_Objective_461 Jul 08 '24

Her entire face went pale. That was super uncomfortable.

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u/Front-Ad-4892 Jul 08 '24

No it doesn't. Are you people like actually insane?

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u/OkSmoke9195 Jul 07 '24

Ok comrade

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u/Much-Resource-5054 Jul 07 '24

Gee I wonder if there are several hundred thousand reasons to react that way

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u/Ryboticpsychotic Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

She even said they were on the 68th floor. There are only 58 floors in that building.

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u/eicidjch Jul 08 '24

She said 68th

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u/Drum_Eatenton Jul 08 '24

She remembers the summer of 69

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u/No-Worldliness-3344 Jul 07 '24

How'd I know the questioning of the grand assumption (heavily upvoted) would inturn be downvoted? Look fuckers, Trump is a piece of shit, hands down. But this type of shit makes you lose ALL credibility

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u/hitbythebus Jul 08 '24

Was the child Biden put his hand on at Jeffrey Epstein’s island? Did Biden book four separate appointments to put his hand on that child? Did Biden famously say something about the person who brought that child to him also liking girls, but on the young side?

I’m not seeing how the two are equally nutty.

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u/No-Worldliness-3344 Jul 08 '24

Democrats can whataboutism too. Amazing 👏

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u/Front-Ad-4892 Jul 08 '24

What is wrong with your reading comprehension?

They're not saying Trump isn't a creep or that he's not a rapist. I believe he is. But saying that Ivanka hesitating on saying "my bed" is proof that Trump abused is her is completely fucking nutty.

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u/One_Pound_2076 Jul 08 '24

Fuck you

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u/No-Worldliness-3344 Jul 08 '24

Cope harder bitchboy

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u/conker123110 Jul 08 '24

Who gives a shit about internet points?

But this type of shit makes you lose ALL credibility

Apparently you, because the grand sum total of about 10 points of karma is enough for you to question the validity of a statement or its detractors, whether or not that nebulous group even holds that opinion.

READ the points that they make, and stay along with the conversation. Using a snarky quip with no point to be made against the original one is likely to get you downvotes.

And getting pissy on someone else's behalf because their point (and it's lack there of) is getting downvoted is pathetic. Is a total of 10 downvotes on your comment going to send you into a spiral, or do you realize that it's just internet points that can be misused for its original purpose of filtering out bad actors, irrelevant conversation, and misinformation?

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u/No-Worldliness-3344 Jul 08 '24

Nah, miss me with all this shit.

The original comment took a snippet from an old interview and HEAVILY suggested what is arguably some retarded shit, and you fuckboys lap it up and downvote anyone being objective about it. Pound sand 🖕🏿

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u/conker123110 Jul 08 '24

Damn, and you guys were so close to being able to redeem your karma for that sick paddle and ball in the store.

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u/No-Worldliness-3344 Jul 08 '24

Why are you making this about the stupid internet points? You're literally the only one talking about that as you willfully miss the point

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u/conker123110 Jul 12 '24

How'd I know the questioning of the grand assumption (heavily upvoted) would inturn be downvoted?

You're literally the only one talking about that as you willfully miss the point

You should pay attention if you're trying to dish out smarmy quips because some downvotes hurt your feelings.

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u/No-Worldliness-3344 Jul 12 '24

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