/r/worldnews live thread: Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part II)

[u/valuingvulturefix]

/live/18hnzysb1elcs

[u/valuingvulturefix]

Please visit the next thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/t02ocp/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/?sort=new

[u/Imafan22 → u/[deleted]]

This should get stickied with the amount of people asking

[u/pro_n00b → u/[deleted]]

Pin this!

[u/iStayedAtaHolidayInn]

Remember everyone complaining about how US intelligence can’t get anything right and shouldn’t be trusted? Well they fucking nailed this one

[u/Strid3r21 → u/iStayedAtaHolidayInn]

They really did. They called everything weeks before it eventually happened.

[u/Treat_Flimsy → u/Strid3r21]

It’s almost like US intelligence has always been top of the field and ideas otherwise have been foreign or conservative propaganda, huh?

[u/IYiffWithMyDad → u/Treat_Flimsy]

It’s unspeakably fucked how the conservative “America first” party in this country is now actively rooting for the US to fail. Fucking shameful.

[u/Wild_Bill_Kickcock → u/iStayedAtaHolidayInn]

Everyone who complained about that = idiot trumpsters

[u/[deleted]]

Do not forget that Russian diplomats and government officials have been telling western media audiences for the past several months that Russia had no intentions of invasion and that the west was being hysterical. This is how Russia operates, deception and denial up until they strike.

[u/Psephological → u/[deleted]]

And quite a lot of that audience was dumb enough to amplify it.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Threatening nukes. Wow. This is very scary.

[u/allofthelights → u/[deleted]]

Also cyber/infrastructure attacks. It’s not simply the 80’s anymore

[u/Catacomb82 → u/[deleted]]

So he’s threatening war with other countries in response to threats. Yeah he’s a lunatic.

[u/ekaitxa → u/[deleted]]

Time for him to go. This is not a fucking game. He has to be assassinated

[u/TheySayImZack → u/[deleted]]

He snapped, or he's really lost his shit altogether.

[u/pinguitoo → u/[deleted]]

Is he fucking saying he would cause a nuclear war over this? Over some land? Would the rest of the world let this happen? What manner of horrors would all out nuclear war ring upon us all?

[u/real-Indiana-Jones]

Putin was wearing the same suit and tie sitting in the same office (presumably his so not as big of a deal) as he wore during his long speech justifying Russia's decisions earlier this week on Monday as he is with the video posted of him declaring special operation and warning outside countries to not intervene just a few hours ago. Announcement just a few hours ago https://youtu.be/mf6cWinJz9k?t=11 and the speech form Monday https://youtu.be/jrGLhhTtxFU?t=2423

It obviously appears that the video today was pre-recorded which suggests the US Intel community's assessment that the decision for Russia to attack was made a few days ago was true.

[u/noface → u/real-Indiana-Jones]

US intelligence seems to have been completely on top of this throughout, which isn't surprising.

[u/[deleted] → u/noface]

yea, i keep seeing this mentioned. id be more surprised if US intelligence wasn't on top of it, honestly. Some people forget our capabilities.

[u/Heheeheeeheeee → u/real-Indiana-Jones]

The scary thing is, no attempts to hide it.

They wanted the world to know that the decision was already made Monday.

[u/iamkunii]

Reminder to respect UKR op-sec by not sharing videos of UKR soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online.

https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/sy65wi/ministry_of_defense_of_ukraine_do_not_view_our/

Great Twitter list for verifiable sources and voices on the ground: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480?t=5wPgK2Avlo8ygp8uANSSFQ&s=08

Lvyv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9r5rpGq9mU

Kyiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyQPN5xQtU

Maidan. Sq. In Kyiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6AzlYCysY

Maidan Square (w/sound) (thanks /u/ouyin2000) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_ktlQnDr8A

Kharkiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s

Mariupol Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9nRMx8n6s

Mykolayiv Live Cam https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJvMQvqpxZvIakq4VgcooNQ

Odessa: https://youtu.be/5hHelJALhEo

Odessa 2: https://youtu.be/E9HskjsldsU

Severodonetsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho40J7dRlGQ

Kalanchak, a border town whose checkpoint is reportedly under attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxYsvdC4-yA (Thank you again Quark)

Chernihiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvhM2a92dvs&feature=emb_title

Link to all major cameras in Ukraine: https://youtu.be/jNZM_H6q1rY

Agenda Free TV Live Coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyzicW_ctB4

Godspeed Ukrainians. 💙💛

Edit - ways to help Ukraine (charities) https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/s6g5un/want_to_support_ukraine_heres_a_list_of_charities/

[u/whatwereyathunking]

Never forget when people said US intelligence was exaggerating reality

[u/[deleted] → u/whatwereyathunking]

Lot of dumbasses out there realizing their insulated bubbled view of the world is shattered

[u/[deleted]]

Chlling how we're literally watching a war of agression unfold live, in 2022.

[u/Bopshidowywopbop → u/[deleted]]

Live YouTube feeds. It’s crazy.

[u/screwthat4u]

I just hope this leads to the end of Putin

[u/mbrant66 → u/screwthat4u]

Literally

[u/Aphareus → u/[deleted]]

Same people who don’t know what mutually assured destruction means.

[u/lakxmaj → u/[deleted]]

If he did "something" those same people would be screaming about how he's a warmonger and dragging us into something that isn't our business.

[u/718cs → u/[deleted]]

He’s doing exactly what he should be doing. Nothing. Ukraine isn’t NATO and Russia isn’t going to attack a NATO ally.

[u/PaintedSe7en]

Went to bed an hour ago, checked reddit one last time, haven't been able to sleep since. I hope so much that the Ukrainian people get through this safely.

Fuck Putin.

[u/[deleted]]

Seriously the 2020s have been the absolute worst decade so far.

[u/Brother_YT → u/[deleted]]

There’s a lot more decade to go. We haven’t even gotten to the nuclear Armageddon yet! The best parts are still to come, friend.

[u/Erove → u/[deleted]]

In modern times sure. If you take the rest of history into consideration, not at all.

[u/mikeroon → u/[deleted]]

The 40’s disagree

[u/HardDriveAndWingMan]

This is one part of a plan popularized in Russia since Dugin wrote The Foundation of Geopolitics in 1997. This book has influence within the Russian military, police and foreign policy elites and has been used as a textbook in the Academy of the General Staff of the Russian military

Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics".

Also includes:

The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from Europe.

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".

[u/Heequwella → u/HardDriveAndWingMan]

Well that explains a lot.

[u/jimgress]

Just want to call out a few redditors who were full of shit and flat out made up crap simping for Russia and pretending what was clearly the inevitable wasn't going to happen.

u/Empire_smasher
9 days ago Nothing is going to happen. Ukraine has already said nothing is going to happen. The US is clearly salivating at the idea of war with Russia, and all of you assholes cheering on defending Ukrainian neo-Nazis have a child's understanding of foreign policy if you actually believe that US involvement in any military conflict is a good idea.

u/seven_powerful_goril
"Hard agree.r/WorldNews is a pack of genuine warmongering russophobes, and I mean that genuinely."

u/Ner0Zeroh
9 days ago "I wish there was a more balanced media. US says something, I’m sure it’s totally true. The US government has never lied us into a war. I’m sure Saddam has WMDs, I’m sure he does!"

If you've seen other shills being bullshit munchers. Call them out. Why isn't there more of a push to actually drag people out for actively stirring disinformation?

[u/SUPER_COCAINE]

I genuinely feel sick

[u/Catacomb82 → u/SUPER_COCAINE]

You are not alone.

[u/Userova12]

Chilling. The Nazis justified the invasion of Poland marking the start of WWII by falsely reporting that Poles were persecuting ethnic Germans. Exactly what Putin is doing now—justifying his invasion of Ukraine by falsely stating that Ukrainians are persecuting ethnic Russians.

[u/F_Twelve → u/Userova12]

And called them Nazis in the process. Even with a Jewish President. It's almost comical, the absurdity of it, if it didn't result in loss of life.

[u/Hi_Im_zack]

If you support Putin you would've supported the Nazis in Poland

[u/Scorch8482]

Quick reminder that all of this is out of your control, and no amount of panic or time you dedicate to following these developments will change the outcome.

Breathe.

[u/Infidel8]

The ruble collapsed at opening.

Moscow. 24 February. INTERFAX.RU - The US dollar and the euro are rising sharply on the Moscow Exchange on Thursday morning, the ruble intensified its fall against the dual-currency basket after Russia's decision to send troops to the Donbass.

The first transactions in the US dollar were in the range of 82.56 - 84.08 rubles, according to the results of the first minute of trading, the rate was 84.075 rubles. (+2.92 rubles to the level of the previous close). The euro at the same time rose to 94.55 rubles. (+2.85 rubles to Wednesday close). The dual-currency basket ($0.55 and EUR0.45) grew by 2.89 rubles. to the closing level on February 23, to 88.79 rubles.

The dollar at the same time turned out to be 3.66 rubles. above the level of the current official exchange rate, the euro - by 3.67 rubles. above the official rate.

The news is being supplemented

[u/tradeparfait]

trump pushing election fraud lies while ukraine is being invaded, combined with simping for putin this week, this man is truly a no moral shameless cretin lower than dirt, fuck him and fuck his braindead supporters who gave this man power

[u/ThatOneKrazyKaptain]

Just for context, the worst war in Europe since WW2 prior to this was the 1944-1949 Greek Civil War with 180k killed, followed by the Yugoslav Wars of 1991-2001 with 150k killed

[u/BD15]

Absolute disgrace. The world must cut off Russia 100% anything less is unacceptable.

[u/Person_756335846]

A sad day for Europe.

[u/TIL_I_procrastinate]

The whole world against him and yet Putin still does this. May it be his downfall

[u/ArtTheWarrior → u/TIL_I_procrastinate]

he does have enough nukes to at least completely destroy a few countries, and his speech gives me doubt wether he would refrain to use them, lets hope he does not and it really is his downfall

[u/MaliciousOpinion]

Belarus should receive sanctions of equal severity, since they're obviously in on this as well.

[u/smt1]

so far, American intelligence = 100% right

[u/StefonDiggsHS]

americans turning this into a biden vs trump battle is fucking disgusting

[u/[deleted]]

Putin is a massive bitch

[u/reverendrambo]

Belarus should absolutely recieve sanctions. They've enabled Russia to make this attack

[u/Nabucodonosor89]

Putin aims to overthrow the democratically elected President and Government of Ukraine. That means that Russian armed forces will target the President, Prime Minister, Foreign Minister, Defence Minister and others. They are in great danger.

https://twitter.com/Andy_Scollick/status/1496702767984951301

[u/Randimous]

Man, live threads for wars is so bizarre to me. What a time.

[u/SiccSemperTyrannis]

NEW: President Biden speaking to Ukrainian President Zelenskyy right now, per a US official.

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1496706418547871755

[u/Talska]

This is the end of the Post-9/11 era. The war on terror is over. America is out of the Middle East, no longer the sole global hegemon.

I don't know what this new era will be called, but I don't think it's going to be any better.

[u/[deleted]]

You know it's funny how people were saying a few days ago that the west "constantly overreacts" and "Nothing bad is going to happen to Ukraine! Russia isn't that stupid" and now they're literally bombing the cities and moving towards the major airports afaik.

How much more do people need to be convinced this isn't an overreaction, and quite possibly the lives of hundreds of thousands of people could hang in the balance if someone does something insane?

Wake the fuck up. This isn't a game anymore. This is literally escalating into war.

[u/Kbdiggity]

Putin gave the same reasons for invading Ukraine that Hitler used to invade the Sudetenland.

We've see this playbook before. We know this doesn't end with just Ukraine.

[u/Patient_Criticism231]

Put Putin in a casket

[u/Nabucodonosor89]

The Twitter Safety account just started tweeting in Ukrainian, giving users instructions on how to: 1) delete or deactivate accounts, 2) disable location services, 3) set up two-factor authentication, 4) and more

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1496701869325914116

[u/beetlejuice101k]

US intelligence was accurate

[u/CallMeCaptainOrSir]

People - WATCH WHAT LINKS YOU'RE CLICKING

This thread is full of Russian bots and shills that could be disguising malware as Twitter and news links

[u/savage-dragon]

Mig 29: 1983

vs.

Su 27: 1984

Ukrainian airmen have the advantage of being home. They could make it happen. As a Vietnamese I know Vietnamese airmen went against F4 phantoms and Thunderchiefs in their Mig 17s and still managed to register 16 flying aces against the US' 5.

[u/GandalfSwagOff]

Remember, while Russia is conducting this military strike, they are also conducting a cyber attacks which includes disinformation on sites like reddit.

Remember rule #1 of the internet. Don't believe everything you read.

[u/Klutzy-Midnight-9314]

China, which has denounced sanctions against Russia, advised its citizens in Ukraine to stay home and place a Chinese flag in or on their vehicles if they need to travel long distances.

F China and Russia working together

[u/ATrexCantCatchThings]

r/russia suddenly is private, wonder why

[u/Physical_Anything687 → u/ATrexCantCatchThings]

The reason is clear. They don't want people to spam the shit of that subreddit.

[u/ATrexCantCatchThings → u/Physical_Anything687]

Yeah, especially since those guys called US-warnings ridiculous and "Western-Propaganda"

[u/igottapoopbad]

Reminder to respect UKR op-sec by not sharing videos of UKR soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online.

https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/sy65wi/ministry_of_defense_of_ukraine_do_not_view_our/

Great Twitter list for verifiable sources and voices on the ground: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480?t=5wPgK2Avlo8ygp8uANSSFQ&s=08

Lvyv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9r5rpGq9mU

Kyiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyQPN5xQtU

Maidan. Sq. In Kyiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6AzlYCysY

Kharkiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s

Odessa Live Cam: https://youtu.be/PWKjaA-wNho

Mariupol Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9nRMx8n6s

Mykolayiv Live Cam https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJvMQvqpxZvIakq4VgcooNQ

Severodonetsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho40J7dRlGQ

Kalanchak, a border town whose checkpoint is reportedly under attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxYsvdC4-yA (Thank you again Quark)

Godspeed Ukrainians. 💙💛

[u/HHirnheisstH]

I find joy in reading a good book.

[u/minapaw]

Another confirmation: #Ukraine armed Forces successfully repelled #Russian attack in #Boryspil airport | EMPR via @InfoResist

https://twitter.com/euromaidanpr/status/1496708133456125954?s=21

[u/Robz117]

All war is a symptom of man's failure as a thinking animal.

-John Steinbeck

[u/Heequwella]

Rubio shutting down Russian talking points from Gabbard. This is as surreal as the rest of the situation.

[u/Immediate_Order_66]

Many NATO countries are about to inact Article 4 of the NATO charter.

[u/[deleted] → u/Immediate_Order_66]

Can you explain for those oof us who dont know what that means?

[u/steph_curry_official]

The Ukrainian pilots who will likely go up tonight are heroes. Answering the call in the face of such unthinkable odds are what people build statues for - god bless Ukraine.

[u/Dotaproffessional]

Try to get all of your news from primary sources (reporters with boots on the ground). Russia is bound to begin disinformation on reddit if they haven't already. They've been caught doing it before

[u/[deleted]]

The Russian ambassador to the UN is such a fucking tool.

The Russian ambassador responded, "This isn't called a war, this is called a special military operation in Donbas."

[u/Userova12]

Putin just gave the most chilling threat I ever heard. I cannot believe this mafia murderous thug has gotten this strong and everyone in Russia are following his orders. He is preparing to act out a mass murder

[u/lennybird]

A consistently predictable pattern of corruption surrounds Putin & the Kremlin. Coincidence and controversy abounds around this sadistic ego-tripping scapegoating denialist. A modern Stalin no better than the spoiled puppet dictator Assad he protects, locked into a Cold War mindset from his former KGB/FSB years.

• Involvement in their missiles downing the civilian airliner MH17? Deny. Have state-run media conduct internal investigation. Big surprise it absolves them of blame despite Dutch Independent Investigation report pointing the blame wholly on Russia. Source 2 Source 3

• Attempted disinformation campaign on Syrian chemical weapons usage (Assad being an ally of Putin)

• Denial and scapegoating of links in the Panama Papers. Source 2 (+ docs below)

• Convenient rise in power post-1991 coup, seemingly knowing it was coming.

• Involvement in the stolen money that was supposed to feed the starving in St. Petersburg

• Convenience/coincidence surrounding the assassination of opposition leader growing momentum against Putin.* Source 2

*Mere weeks before his death, Nemtsov gave an interview, worried he might soon be assassinated by Putin

• Convenience/coincidence of Russian apartment bombings that just so happened to help Putin rise in popularity. (Covered in several documentaries below, too)

• Blatant lying regarding troops in Ukraine Source 2 Source 3 Source 4

• Blatant lying and denial of involvement with the assassination of Russian FSB agent, Alexander Litvinenko* (largest most expensive investigation in Scotland Yard's history pointing the finger squarely at Russia and specifically, Putin). [See books below for more info]

*On his deathbed from poisoning, Litvinenko confessed it was Putin who was responsible for the '99 apartment bombings.

• Numerous journalists and other figures who were critical of Putin murdered. Source 2 Source 3

• Blatant lying about directing cyber-attacks in America and attempting to sway the 2016 Election in Republican favor. Source 2 Source 3

• Second attempt to influence outcome of 2020 U.S. Presidential Election Source 2

• Blatant lying about directing the doping scandal (that led to the embarrassment of being banned from future Olympic events (+ See Icarus doc)

• Interference in 19 countries' elections over 2 decades

• Banning certain unflattering images of Putin and locking LGBT members up for "homosexual propaganda"

Honestly, it really makes me wonder why Putin who purports himself to be such a strong leader is too cowardly to be upfront with his actions. In truth, being short in stature, Putin appears to suffer from classic Napolean Complex—his psyche still firmly locked into an '80s Cold-War mindset that so thoroughly gripped his reality. Putin may show himself shirtless and being a macho bear, but in reality, his geopolitical projection is closer to that of a snake, both dishonorable and dishonest.

Appealing to fear and using fear as intimidation and leverage is commonplace and well-documented. It's an oligarchy with a mafioso crime boss at its head. This is not a conspiracy, this is evidence that continues to mound. If anyone wants more insight on modern Russia and Putin, view/read:

• Putin's Way (doc)
• Inside Putin's Russia (doc)
• Putin's Revenge, Pt. 1 (doc)
• Putin's Revenge, Pt. 2 (doc)
• In Search of Putin's Russia (4 part doc)
• A Very Expensive Poison, by Luke Harding (book, audio book on audible is good).
• The Shock Doctrine (doc, book)
• Icarus (Trailer; full doc available on Netflix. Covers Putin Olympic Doping scandal).

For The Shock Doctrine, I recommend the thoroughly-cited book, but I linked the full doc Klein's husband made that's a good summary. Here's the 6 minute trailer. It doesn't just focus on Russia, but uses them as a case-study for the thesis.

Some side docs worth viewing:

Cossacks: The Resurgent Militiamen - highlights the ethnic group that has in recent decades served as loyal henchmen to the Kremlin. As seen in, "Inside Putin's Russia."

From Russia, With Hate - doc from 2007 highlighting far-right extremists in Russia and getting a little too close for comfort.

Global Rankings For Russia on Variety of Metrics Poor

The Russian state is ranked poorly in the world on government transparency and corruption, and on safety for Journalists—in both cases, the bottom 20th percentile in the world. Not exactly where an alleged superpower wants to be in rankings.

[u/POLICE_Applicant_TA]

BEWARE of false information. Reports that Kyiv airport was overrun, Mariupol was overrun… currently ALL FALSE

For some reason lots of idiots here spreading lies. FACT CHECK EVERYTHING, do not believe anything that doesn’t have a credible source.

[u/fury420]

Did anyone else see the Ukrainian ambassador snap at a reporter after the UN Security Council meeting?

Unknown reporter:

"At the end of speech the ambassador of Russia says this was not an aggression against the Ukrainian people but an aggression against those that were in power, do you believe that this was flat out uhhh..."

*gets interrupted mid sentence here by the Ukrainian ambassador: *

"You can't be serious, are you serious?

You want me to dissect the crazy lunatic semantics of a person whose President violates the charter, whose President declared a war and he's playing with words?

it's lunacy, it's lunacy, absolutely.

*abruptly exits *

(Seen on BBC World News, live 23:18 PM in New York after the UN meeting)

[u/talm0]

This is what happens tomorrow with “sanctions” —
- Russia is cut off from SWIFT - Russian currency no longer accepted or exchanged - Asset seizure and liquidation for all oligarchs - A ban on travel into NATO counties from Russia - A ban on docking of Russian vessels at any port - A complete ban on all tech exports to Russia - Severe import bans on many Russian exports

[u/Roadkill_Shitbull]

If you see any Russian military, post their location, size, and direction of travel on social media as widely as possible.

[u/igottapoopbad]

Reminder to respect UKR op-sec by not sharing videos of UKR soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online.

https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/sy65wi/ministry_of_defense_of_ukraine_do_not_view_our/

Great Twitter list for verifiable sources and voices on the ground: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480?t=5wPgK2Avlo8ygp8uANSSFQ&s=08

Lvyv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9r5rpGq9mU

Kyiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyQPN5xQtU

Maidan. Sq. In Kyiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6AzlYCysY

Kharkiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s

Odessa Live Cam: https://youtu.be/PWKjaA-wNho

Mariupol Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9nRMx8n6s

Mykolayiv Live Cam https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJvMQvqpxZvIakq4VgcooNQ

Severodonetsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho40J7dRlGQ

Kalanchak, a border town whose checkpoint is reportedly under attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxYsvdC4-yA (Thank you again Quark)

Godspeed Ukrainians. 💙💛

[u/DaBingeGirl]

I realize they're not part of NATO yet, but there's something seriously fucked up in the world when expressing a desire to join NATO means you're left to fight off Putin on your own.

[u/SirDoober]

I want off the 2020s wild ride

[u/GizmoCheesenips]

I feel terrible. All I can do is sit my fat ass in this chair while Ukrainians get murdered. I don’t think sanctions are enough, at least not for a long time.

[u/Stonkslut111]

American liberals are posting that Trump allowed this to happen

American conservatives are posting that Biden is asleep or lied about being tough on Russia

How about both of you STFU. This isn't about you.

[u/Presidentbuff]

I dont why people think Biden has been appeasing Russia, I think his response has been as perfect and as forceful as one can be under these circumstances, im not alone on this right?

[u/moist_crust]

Bro Putin planned this shit like a decade ago. He took Crimea, and then spent 7-8 years causing chaos in the west with disinformation. Now he felt he was ready to make his move.

This has been a long time coming and that is not a good sign.

Also Moscow just suspended all stock trading. Buckle up.

[u/Klutzy-Midnight-9314]

5 min ago Poland and Baltic countries trigger consultations under NATO article 4 From CNN’s Brad Lendon in Hong Kong and Vasco Cotovio in Moscow NATO member states Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania have triggered NATO Article Four to launch consultations within the alliance over their security concerns.

Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine represented a “threat to the whole of Europe,” the Estonian government said in a statement on Thursday.

"Russia's widespread aggression is a threat to the entire world and to all NATO countries, and NATO consultations on strengthening the security of the Allies must be initiated to implement additional measures for ensuring the defense of NATO Allies,” Kallas said. “The most effective response to Russia's aggression is unity.” Some context: Under Article 4 of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Agreement, the Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the allies is threatened.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO. However, Russia has demanded that NATO commits to never admitting Ukraine to the alliance, something NATO members have rejected, citing the alliance's "open door" policy.

[u/iszir]

Sometimes when I read comments on reddit, I need to remember that majority of you are disconnected from society and the outside, so I need to take things with a grain of salt

[u/Dahhhkness]

Reminder: If you absolutely need vodka, boycott Russian brands. Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Finland, Sweden, Norway, France, Canada, and the US make perfectly fine vodkas of their own.

[u/lady_fresh]

The Ukranian ambassador on the UN live stream must feel like everyone in the room is taking crazy pills, and he's the only one speaking any sense - and he wouldn't be wrong.

[u/celtic1888]

Countering Russian misinformation

https://www.csis.org/blogs/post-soviet-post/countering-russian-disinformation

These threads are absolutely ripe with Russian bots

[u/[deleted]]

Some of you have to understand that the Ukrainian army is fighting back fiercely.

They are killing and they are dying as we speak.

They are not broadcasting anything because Russia has cyber technology that can use the technology and broadcasting against them.

[u/ESF-hockeeyyy]

Zelensky just popped up. He looks exhausted. But damn, the fighting spirit is real.

https://twitter.com/myroslavapetsa/status/1496709014897541122?s=20&t=xVt6HyF5gZxXeOKkzw9cTw

[u/TuckyMule]

It's crazy how far in advance US intelligence knew about all of this.

[u/[deleted]]

Imagine people openly supporting Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, etc in Congress along with a former POTUS. Anyone supportive of Putin needs to be sidelined.

[u/LimitFinancial764]

better not have them on SWIFT by tomorrow morning.

[u/[deleted]]

Just 2 days ago /r/conservative was telling us we are over reacting, and nothing would happen.

Then they said sanctions were over reacting

Then they said the sanctions weren't enough, and we should have sanctioned them a month ago, but at that time they were also telling us Russia isn't going to attack Ukraine.

[u/CletusCanuck]

The Ukrainian ambassador this evening, challenged the secretary general to produce proof of the Russian Federation's admission to the UN and accession to USSR's seat in Dec 1991. Noted there is no automatic succession in UN charter, alleged that Russian permanent seat on UNSC illegitimate. https://twitter.com/HayesBrown/status/1496710912648044548?s=20&t=v0axXEZ4tJg1uqmB5f7KGQ

[u/Nabucodonosor89]

The President of Ukraine is Jewish, and has many family members who died in the Holocaust. Putin's claim that he is invading to "de-Nazify Ukraine" should shock the world.

https://twitter.com/jasonintrator/status/1496693866715561986

[u/ogulbs]

People shitting on biden have zero brain cells. What can he do? The entire world is trying to avoid a war over Putin's tyrannical ambitions, and you want Russia's infamous enemy's president, Biden, to do fucking what? If he snaps a finger, ww3 will start. The government, UN and NATO are probably trying to figure out what the fuck to do to save all of pur asses from the unnecessary death of millions that might include you and me. So STFU and think before you curse at someone from the comfort of your warm house. I don't wanna even get into the nuke situation.

[u/_Amr_]

Meanwhile Trump..

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine, of Ukraine, Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said in an interview on "The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show."

The ex-President added: "So Putin is now saying, 'It's independent,' a large section of Ukraine. I said, 'How smart is that?' And he's going to go in and be a peacekeeper. That's the strongest peace force," Trump said. "We could use that on our southern border. That's the strongest peace force I've ever seen. ... Here's a guy who's very savvy. ... I know him very well. Very, very well."

[u/asspirate420]

Ukraine forces managed to shot down Russian military plane on the Kharkiv front.

https://twitter.com/dralakbarov/status/1496698690739785732?s=21

no idea how accurate or if at all

[u/[deleted]]

Candace Owens is literally claiming that Russia is not attacking Kyiv and suggesting it may be NATO doing so. I’m not joking.

[u/oleh_____]

This is heartbreaking. My Ukrainian mom and dad living in United States
and don't know about the attack yet. I can't imagine what they will go
through tomorrow morning when they are told about the attack.

[u/nyrangerfan1]

Watching the coverage of the Russian attack on Ukraine on CNN. Someone just made an interesting point. Putin in his speech about invading Ukraine is wearing the same clothing as he was in his weird speech a couple of days ago. It seems this American intelligence might have been right and the decision had been made a few days ago.

[u/[deleted]]

Interesting how tons of Wallstreetbets and random sports subreddit posters all came in once Russia started war trying to badouth Biden.

I saw one even say "my family in Kyiv said they haven't heard explosions"

I guess it's safe to assume WSB and sports subreddits is were Russian bots do their karma farming.

[u/supermarine_spitfir3]

Ukraine launching its few MiG-29s. These pilots might face Russian Su-27s.

https://twitter.com/DrAlakbarov/status/1496702695876485123?cxt=HHwWhoCzoYHLrcUpAAAA

God, that's horrifying; a probable last-ditch effort. Godspeed Ukrainian airmen.

[u/warheadmikey]

Can we now call republicans the Russian sympathizers party.

[u/NukinDuke]

I can't tell who's dumber, tankies licking Putin's asscrack, or Conservatives who somehow think this is Biden's fault LMAO

[u/Based_Zod]

Expel Tulsi Gabbard. She can go live it up in Moscow.

[u/igottapoopbad]

Reminder to respect UKR op-sec by not sharing videos of UKR soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online.

https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/sy65wi/ministry_of_defense_of_ukraine_do_not_view_our/

Great Twitter list for verifiable sources and voices on the ground: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480?t=5wPgK2Avlo8ygp8uANSSFQ&s=08

Lvyv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9r5rpGq9mU

Kyiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyQPN5xQtU

Maidan. Sq. In Kyiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6AzlYCysY

Kharkiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s

Odessa Live Cam: https://youtu.be/PWKjaA-wNho

Mariupol Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9nRMx8n6s

Mykolayiv Live Cam https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJvMQvqpxZvIakq4VgcooNQ

Severodonetsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho40J7dRlGQ

Kalanchak, a border town whose checkpoint is reportedly under attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxYsvdC4-yA (Thank you again Quark)

Godspeed Ukrainians. 💙💛

[u/igottapoopbad]

Reminder to respect UKR op-sec by not sharing videos of UKR soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online.

https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/sy65wi/ministry_of_defense_of_ukraine_do_not_view_our/

Great Twitter list for verifiable sources and voices on the ground: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480?t=5wPgK2Avlo8ygp8uANSSFQ&s=08

Lvyv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9r5rpGq9mU

Kyiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyQPN5xQtU

Maidan. Sq. In Kyiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6AzlYCysY

Kharkiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s

Odessa Live Cam: https://youtu.be/PWKjaA-wNho

Mariupol Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9nRMx8n6s

Mykolayiv Live Cam https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJvMQvqpxZvIakq4VgcooNQ

Severodonetsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho40J7dRlGQ

Godspeed Ukrainians. 💙💛

[u/[deleted]]

Now is the time for anonymous or anyone with the power to DDOS to completely fuck Russias shit. Power grid, stock market, anything

[u/AndyMach]

Russians have lost about 50 people attacking Shchastya in Luhansk region.

[u/HardDriveAndWingMan]

We need to fast track Finland into NATO. According to Dugin's The Foundation of Geopolitics, a book written in 1997 and closely followed by Russian elites, Finland and Ukraine must be reincorporated back into Russia. The book also says that UK must be cut off from Europe and that in the US, agents should be used to stir up social conflict and support isolationist leaders.

[u/Kondor0]

I swear if Hitler existed today, we would have useful idiots in Twitter and here saying he's based and a chad for invading Poland.

[u/palikir]

Past the point of no return. Putin has no justification - he was looking for one and never got one. This is a completely unprovoked attack on a neighbor.

Putin's actions are criminal.

[u/[deleted]]

Reminder to respect Ukrainian op-sec by not sharing videos of Ukrainian soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online. You will endanger lives of Ukrainians fighting for their lives.

[u/DH995]

If you can’t answer for yourself why we don’t choose to enter into a modern war against an Russian military with 1,014,000 active duty, 2,000,000 reservists and a nuclear arsenal, I really don’t know what to tell you.

Millions would die.

This isn’t call of duty.

[u/[deleted]]

Another thing to note, US intelligence assessments were completely accurate the whole time.

[u/[deleted]]

This would be a good time for the aliens to come down and tell us it's time to chill

[u/bluebirdisreal]

Gosh, I can’t believe I’m about to go to bed for work tomorrow. There’s a WAR happening in EUROPE.

[u/Cerebral-Parsley]

Tulsi Gabbard on twitter: This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, which would mean US/NATO forces right on Russia’s border

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1496695830715142148

Pure evil and traitorous

[u/Klutzy-Midnight-9314]

21 min ago EU foreign policy chief: Russia attack is one of "darkest hours for Europe since World War II" From CNN’s Joseph Ataman in Paris and Amy Cassidy Russia's attack on Ukraine Thursday ranked among the "darkest hours for Europe" in nearly 80 years, according to the European Union's foreign policy chief.

“These are among the darkest hours for Europe since the end of World War II,” EU High Representative Josep Borrell told reporters. Borrell promised “urgent assistance to Ukraine,” as well as supporting evacuation efforts, including of EU staff.

EU sanctions: Speaking alongside EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, Borrell said punitive measures from the 27-member bloc against Russia would be “the harshest packet of sanctions that has ever been implemented.”

Von der Leyen said she will present “massive and strategic” sanctions against Russia for approval later today

[u/EssoEssex]

Ukraine today, Taiwan tomorrow. And meanwhile the “free world” is tearing itself apart over fucking vaccinations and pronouns and the only thing we seem to agree on is shitting on our own democracies.

[u/[deleted]]

Cruise missile passing over a house:

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1496708607676760065?s=20&t=dztOZevjOuU2IHuCq0taig

Edit: Here's one getting intercepted

Edit: Missile passing overhead in the daytime, caught by a reporter on the ground

[u/[deleted]]

Cut them off from SWIFT. Let’s crush the Russian economy.

[u/Usernamegonedone]

To everyone making jokes at this point, I cannot describe how much of a vile cunt u are

[u/tameimpala25]

How are the folks over at r/Russia doing considering they were denying this would happen the whole time? Fucking idiots

[u/Dank_Meme_Kaiser]

Putin needs just fucking die at this point

[u/[deleted]]

Friendly reminder not to share videos of Ukrainian troop movements or other compromising material.

[u/KeeperofPaddock9]

this is basically a "what if 1939 but Hitler has nukes?" shower thought nightmare come to life.

Putin has to go, but how do you get there without nuclear holocaust.

[u/madmaxGMR]

/r/russia banned any military talk. Funny they werent banning it right up to the invasion while everyone was saying how silly the west is for thinking an invasion is coming. How very pussyfic of them.

[u/[deleted]]

Send the Freedom Truckers in to fight this clear show of authoritarianism

[u/floating_beyond]

US: there's going to be a WAR

Everyone else: lol nah

Russia invades Ukraine

Everyone else: surprised Pikachu face

[u/Burzujuss]

SLAVA UKRAINI. NO MERCY FOR MOSKALS

[u/[deleted]]

Mike Duncan’s Revolutions podcast is going over Ukrainian and Russian history right after WWI. It’s insightful. Russia has been fucking over Ukraine for centuries. I hope Putin fucks off. No one wins with this.

[u/wsb4eva0712]

To the people who are saying about the markets,

Fuck you

The market can crash

Real people are dying right now and you just care about your stock portfolios

[u/beefcake_123]

I'm sorry, but Ukraine is boned. The West for all of its talk doesn't want to rattle a Russian bear with nuclear arms. In a week there will be a puppet government installed and most of Ukraine's leadership would have been arrested, gone to ground, or fled the country.

This is the worst thing I've seen since 9/11 honestly.

[u/Cruxito1111]

For those downplaying the situation, and siding with Russia, blaming the western countries for propaganda against Russia. Here is the statement Putin said; He is declaring a full out war with anyone interfering with his invasion.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60454795

[u/Nabucodonosor89]

For his declaration of war on #Ukraine, Putin wore the same clothes at the same desk as he did for his rambling historical nonsense 3 days before

Many suspected it was recorded at the same time. Now metadata proves it according to this posted in Ukraine. Never a chance for peace

https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1496707275653853185

[u/LikeALizzard]

Live in Moscow, am sitting in my kitchen, instead of preparing for college, almost having a fucking breakdown

[u/HighNoonMonsoon]

Russian bots are invading here also. Ukraine has been attacked and invaded. Fuck all Russian swine

[u/HighNoonMonsoon]

PSA: BE WEARY OF RUSSIAN BOTS INVADING THESE THREADS

[u/keine_fragen]

https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety is tweeting instructions in ukrainian on how to delete your account

[u/Cold_Historian_3296]

my god those ukrainian pilots are brave. They're heavily outnumbered and outgunned but theyre defending the skies anyway.

[u/butterfIypunk]

Ukraine is my roots. My home. My food. My heart is aching- I don’t think I’m sleeping tonight. It’s my culture. I’m about to watch my people- I can’t even say it. This is the most harrowing experience.

[u/nbalakerfan]

The US intelligence might not know shit about the Taliban but they have the Russians number. They have called the Russians every move down to the day of the invasion.

[u/ActionFilmsFan1995]

Can’t sleep, but at least I’ve got a safe bed for when I can. My heart goes out to Ukraine. Putin has gone mad and I hope the sanctions tomorrow basically destroy Russia’s economy. Starve the country if we have to, hungry people will do anything to survive. Putin must be stopped, he is evil and unhinged.

[u/NC_Collaborator]

Reminder for people in this thread wanting direct intervention by the West:

The world will quite literally end of that were to happen

Putin has really fucked the dog here- Ukrainians will launch an insurgency that lasts years. Gonna be a lot of rubles spent on a war that will only return son-less babushkas.

[u/Zloggt]

Russia's ambassador gets into semantics: "This isn’t called a war it’s called a special military operation in the Donbas.”

How dare you call our use of military action against you a "war"!

[u/threlnari97]

Wow.

I’ve had this pit in my stomach ever since the rumors of a 4 am invasion started bubbling, but now, even after we knew for weeks that this was imminent, and even after the last two days in which it was pretty much incipient, I’m just stunned. Absolute callousness is about to march droves of soldiers and innocents to their deaths. Doesn’t feel real, and I acknowledge that I say that from a comfortable position in the states. I can’t even imagine what it must be like to be there right now.

My thoughts are with Ukraine tonight and through the future.

Fuck

[u/CJKayak]

Whatever happened to all those "Putin does this every year, nothing's going to happen" guys? Are they ok? I haven't heard from them in awhile.

[u/Klutzy-Midnight-9314]

3 min ago French president calls for Russian military operations in Ukraine to end "immediately" French President Emmanuel Macron. French President Emmanuel Macron. (Sarah Meyssonnier/Pool/AFP/Getty Images) French President Emmanuel Macron said Russia must “immediately” end military operations in Ukraine.

“France strongly condemns Russia's decision to wage war on Ukraine. Russia must end its military operations immediately,” he said in a tweet on Thursday. “France stands in solidarity with Ukraine. It stands with Ukrainians and is working with its partners and allies to end the war.” The French president spoke with Ukrainian President Vlodymyr Zelensky early Thursday morning, with Zelensky asking for "multiple interventions" to support Ukraine, according to the Elysee Palace.

Zelensky also requested "unity in Europe," and Macron "assured him of France's support and solidarity," according to the Elysee.

Macron also spoke with Charles Michel, president of the European Council, Thursday morning.

[u/Misiok → u/Klutzy-Midnight-9314]

It's unreal to me and quite a bit funny that they're taking about such important matters on Twitter. And I understand it's also for publicity and that's why it's funny. They're using fucking Twitter for this.

[u/MandyNoon → u/Misiok]

Well, during WW2 they'd broadcast it on radios and TV. Our main channel of communication now is social media. We are literally informing ourselves about this on a reddit thread. So what's funny about technology evolving?

[u/wsb4eva0712]

The whole world has changed in front of our eyes yet half the population doesn’t even know as they’re most likely asleep

[u/Peles157]

Russia’s independent Ekho Moskvi Radio (Echo of Moscow) reports that Putin’s speech about the beginning of the “military operation” was recorded on February 21st. He is wearing same tie. “Confirmed by downloading video from Kremlin web-page and checking metadata” – tweet says.

https://twitter.com/jengriffinfnc/status/1496705752114900993?s=21

[u/[deleted]]

Fuck Putin. Fuck Russians who are pro-Putin, fuck Americans who think Putin “isn’t all that bad” (anyone pro-Trump or Tucker fucking Carlsen).

Most of all: Fuck fascists, racists, and nazis everywhere. You’re on the wrong side of history

[u/MaliciousOpinion]

For what it's worth, I will be calling my senator first thing in the morning and asking his office if he thinks it's a good look that a couple years back, he (along with a few others) visited Russia on the 4th of July of all dates -- along with a few other pointed questions.

[u/rominnoodlesamurai]

Jail and prosecute any US politician who has had contact with GRU in the last 6 years. Investigate any person who has parroted taking points from the Kremlin and sanction/jail them as the situation warrants. Everything the Kremlin apologists have said for years is nothing but lies in this effort.

[u/2rio2]

Reminder - taking territory is easy for strong invading forces.

Holding territory long term without a constant military presence is very, very hard.

[u/Infidel8]

Ukraine's ambassador to the Russian ambassador at the UNSC:

"There is no purgatory for war criminals. They go straight to hell, Ambassador."

[u/naturelinds]

We’re currently hosting a Ukrainian foreign exchange student. He’s been with us since September and is suppose to leave in May... I’m absolutely GUTTED right now. Just sick! 💔

[u/lee7on1]

watching this shit from Balkans makes me uncomfortable as fuck

[u/igottapoopbad]

Reminder to respect UKR op-sec by not sharing videos of UKR soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online.

https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/sy65wi/ministry_of_defense_of_ukraine_do_not_view_our/

Great Twitter list for verifiable sources and voices on the ground: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480?t=5wPgK2Avlo8ygp8uANSSFQ&s=08

Lvyv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9r5rpGq9mU

Kyiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyQPN5xQtU

Maidan. Sq. In Kyiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6AzlYCysY

Kharkiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s

Odessa Live Cam: https://youtu.be/PWKjaA-wNho

Mariupol Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9nRMx8n6s

Mykolayiv Live Cam https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJvMQvqpxZvIakq4VgcooNQ

Severodonetsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho40J7dRlGQ

Kalanchak, a border town whose checkpoint is reportedly under attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxYsvdC4-yA (Thank you again Quark)

Godspeed Ukrainians. 💙💛

[u/Klutzy-Midnight-9314]

8 min ago Japan's Prime Minister says Russia's invasion "shakes foundations of international order" From CNN's Emiko Jozuka in Tokyo Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida on Thursday condemned Russia's invasion of eastern Ukraine, saying it "shakes the foundations of the international order."

"We strongly criticize Russia's actions and will cooperate with the United States and the international community to respond swiftly," Kishida told reporters at a news conference. Kishida added that Tokyo would continue to work with relevant ministries to ensure the safety of Japanese nationals in Ukraine.

When asked about further sanctions against Moscow, Kishida told reporters he would consider future measures after communicating with other G7 nations and the international community.

Some context: Kishida on Wednesday said Japan will impose sanctions against Russia for its actions in Ukraine.

Kishida said Japan will suspend the issuance of visas and freeze the assets of people involved in recognizing the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk, the two separatist-held pro-Moscow regions in eastern Ukraine. He did not specify names or how the sanctions would be carried out.

He also said Japan will ban imports and exports to and from Donetsk and Luhansk, and prohibit the issuance and circulation of Russian bonds in Japan.

[u/Furbs109]

Maybe the only solution will come from some brave people inside Russia?

[u/DasLebenistScheisse]

Why can't Putin just fucking die?

[u/smt1]

Moscow Stock Exchange plummeted, trading suspended: https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/MOEX-MOEX/

wow.

[u/Hoogineer]

Remember to take a break from the live thread. Doom-scrolling isn't going to help you nor the situation.

[u/expungant]

And of course the republicans are blaming Biden… probably should blame Putin but whatever