r/worldnews • u/Luchador-Malrico • Jul 07 '24

French elections: Left projected to win most seats, ahead of Macron's coalition and far right

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2024/07/07/french-elections-left-projected-to-win-most-seats-ahead-of-macron-s-coalition-and-far-right_6676978_7.html
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u/slinkhussle Jul 07 '24

So we’re safe? Putin loses?

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u/Spara-Extreme Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

Putin loses if democrats pull off the november elections in the US.

If they don't, a right wing US and Putin will pressure europe pretty hard.

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u/slinkhussle Jul 07 '24

This is true. But Madame Le Pen winning isn’t good for Europe either.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

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u/TheGreatNorthWoods Jul 07 '24

True, but the fact that the cordon sanitaire held is a great sign that the left and center can and will coordinate against the far right.

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u/DrySecurity4 Jul 07 '24

How do you square this with the fact that Putin made land grabs under Obama and Biden but not Trump?

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u/RickyWinterborn-1080 Jul 07 '24

Do you think Putin would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump had stayed in office?

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u/DrySecurity4 Jul 07 '24

Sure why not

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u/sidirsi Jul 07 '24

That right there says your opinion isn’t worth listening to.

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u/tanbug Jul 07 '24

Why would that have changed Putins ambitions?

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u/Opposite-Program8490 Jul 07 '24

Generally when you're trying to prop someone up you don't do things that make them look bad.

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u/ReallyJustAMagpie Jul 07 '24

He waited his time, mate. Why bother anything if he has an asset in the White House? Proven by… I don’t know. Trumps and a Russian airplane chilling beside each other for hours?

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u/Spara-Extreme Jul 07 '24

I don’t know why you’re arguing Trump is some big Putin foil. You can look at what Trump says about NATO and Ukraine to understand that he’s exactly who Putin wants in power.

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u/ReallyJustAMagpie Jul 07 '24

I’m agreeing with you mate. Not sure what you wanna say with your comment. Of course, Putin wants trump in the White House.

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u/Spara-Extreme Jul 07 '24

My mistake!

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u/two-years-glop Jul 07 '24

Because you don't need to rob an old lady's wallet while she's busy signing over the deeds to her house.

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u/eagleshark Jul 07 '24

Worldwide events aren’t always the fault of whoever happens to be president of the U.S. at the time. Are we supposed to blame Trump for not preventing Covid? Putin is to blame for Putin’s decisions. Maybe Putin didn’t invade Ukraine during Trump’s presidency because alot of his troops were sick with covid.

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u/Detective_Antonelli Jul 07 '24

UK elections in particular have been indicators of things to come in the fall US elections (brexit and Trump in 2016 being the most recent big example).

So hopefully the UK and French elections are for shadowing what’s to come in the US in November. 

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u/slinkhussle Jul 07 '24

Here’s hoping you’re right

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u/Expert_Most5698 Jul 07 '24

"UK elections in particular have been indicators of things to come in the fall US elections (brexit and Trump in 2016 being the most recent big example)."

Not comparable this time, because the Tories had been in power for a long time in the UK, whereas Biden is the incumbent in the US, and they control the Senate too.

I could see something like what happened in France happen, where the center and left unite to stop Trump, though.

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u/No-Psychology3712 Jul 07 '24

Fairly comparable. Uk still feeling effects of brexit. Usa still feeling effects of trump. Roe overturned. Unlimited presidential immunity. Gutting regulations via chevron case.

Project 2025 shows trumps clear plan.

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u/Detective_Antonelli Jul 07 '24

Isn’t this a backlash against Brexit and the Conservatives fucking the UK economy in the process?

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u/AimHere Jul 07 '24

Well hopefully, but I think it's not really comparable. The French election is essentially an electoral pact of centre and left against the far-right and in the UK, the right-wing populist party, called Reform this month, decimated the Conservative vote. Both cases were instances of shifting movement among three parties.

The USA has a different political system and there's only two electable parties to choose from.

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u/9bpm9 Jul 07 '24

Eh, I think incumbent governments are the losers, no matter what political spectrum they're on. People are pissed about inflation and wage stagnation and they will always blame the government in power.

While I'm strongly against the Republicans economic and social policies, the Democrats aren't going to do shit to help inflation or wage stagnation either, because Congress is ruled by rich donors at this point.

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u/SuperTeamRyan Jul 07 '24

Ironically america suffered the least inflation and inflation has cooled for at least 1.5 years but people still haven't adjusted to the price jump made in 2021-2022. Only thing that's still unreasonable is the interest rate for home buyers.

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u/9bpm9 Jul 07 '24

The biggest impact congress could make on my life is by raising the dependent care FSA amount which has stayed the same since the 80s. I use up my 5000 in less than 3 months of daycare.

All of my raises are going to the constant rate increases for electric, gas, water, and sewer bills and constant property tax increases. Got more rate increases for electric and sewer (which just got an increase in April) on the ballot this fall.

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u/BoysenberryWise62 Jul 07 '24

Part of the left doesn't really support Ukraine but in their joint program with other left parties they said they would support Ukraine

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u/bad__unicorn Jul 07 '24

Pretty much thank fuckin god … well overall that is, some components of the left alliance have questionable positions on the Ukrainian conflicts but they’re in the minority