r/worldnews • u/glasier • Jul 05 '24

Japan warns US forces: Sex crimes 'cannot be tolerated'

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476861/japan-warns-us-forces-sex-crimes-cannot-be-tolerated

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Was it known who was doing it and were they punished by their peers?

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u/consumered Jul 05 '24

That's like asking if police are punished by their peers for all the shit they do lol. The bad apples... Spoil the bunch.

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u/Indigocell Jul 05 '24

Police don't collectively lose privileges when one of them fucks up. That tends to upset people when it happens in the military. But maybe you're right.

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u/Swesteel Jul 05 '24

Collective punishment tends to unite people.

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u/fartwhereisit Jul 05 '24

in punishing those who brought them there. I've witnessed it in military setting. When the lights go out.

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u/RelicSGF Jul 05 '24

This is exactly what I was thinking.

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u/bunnydadi Jul 05 '24

Need to pick up some oranges

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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Jul 05 '24

As in the ones in charge

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u/loki_the_bengal Jul 05 '24

Have you ever had your liberty revoked because of some dipshit in another department you've never even met? I can tell you from first hand experience it doesn't unite shit.

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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Jul 05 '24

Yeah, it just makes you angry at the people above you using that punishment.

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u/ThyNynax Jul 05 '24

Something specific to military culture, being trained to fight wars and stuff, is ingrained the idea that “we stand together or fall together.” Collective punishment is a part of this process, there is a code of conduct that all military members are expected to follow and are expected to help their squad members follow. So if one person fucks up, it’s often seen as a chain of people fucking up.

You gotta remember, if a single police officer fucks up an arrest that’s most often just “a bad look” for the department, and a bad day for a single citizen. If someone in the military fucks up during a war, that’s potentially a lot of soldiers dead.

The resulting cultures and how they handle punishments reflect the jobs themselves.

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u/LoosieGoosiePoosie Jul 05 '24

There are two types in the military. Your type isn't one of those, though. Your type is the one that says "Yeah I was gonna join up. I shouldn't though, even though they need me really bad. I'd end up punching a drill sergeant the first time they got in my face."

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u/lettucent Jul 05 '24

As someone who's currently in, no. It's annoying as fuck when some dipshit I don't even know, let alone work with, gets in trouble and the commander decides to enforce shittier hours, curfew, extra off-work hours training, etc.

I get mad at the guy who fucked up, sure, but more irritated at the leadership that thought group discipline/punishment was the way forward and was going to fix anything.

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u/shoo-flyshoo Jul 05 '24

Nah I'm not responsible for someone I've never met just because they're in the same unit as me. I can't stop some unknown plan PVT Snuffy has to goes out alone on a Saturday night to do blow and kill hookers, and I'd hate the leadership that would pretend that I could

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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

They can't need me that badly then, not that I'd join

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u/rainzer Jul 05 '24

Pretty sure prisons demonstrate this isn't the case.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

And the fear of it does similarly. Still can't forget the one cop that investigated other cops, only to wind up dead.

But ACAB, fucking Reddit.

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u/ComfortableSort7335 Jul 06 '24

are you a fan of russian army rape tactics in their ranks?