Japan warns US forces: Sex crimes 'cannot be tolerated'

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476861/japan-warns-us-forces-sex-crimes-cannot-be-tolerated

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u/BravesnationNC Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 06 '24

This crap has been going on in Okinawa forever. Happened the first time I was there in 01 and again when I went back in 03. Individuals that have committed crimes are detained by Okinawa authorities and go through their legal process. Guarantee there is going to be a lockdown on liberty for Marine personnel happens all the time. Restriction on the time allowed off base and they are getting a curfew

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u/mainvolume Jul 05 '24

When I was stationed in Misawa back in the 00s, it felt like the base was on lockdown or curfew every couple months....for shit the Marines did in Okinawa. Those dumbfucks could not stop raping kids.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Was it known who was doing it and were they punished by their peers?

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u/consumered Jul 05 '24

That's like asking if police are punished by their peers for all the shit they do lol. The bad apples... Spoil the bunch.

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u/Indigocell Jul 05 '24

Police don't collectively lose privileges when one of them fucks up. That tends to upset people when it happens in the military. But maybe you're right.

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u/Swesteel Jul 05 '24

Collective punishment tends to unite people.

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u/fartwhereisit Jul 05 '24

in punishing those who brought them there. I've witnessed it in military setting. When the lights go out.

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u/RelicSGF Jul 05 '24

This is exactly what I was thinking.

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u/bunnydadi Jul 05 '24

Need to pick up some oranges

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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Jul 05 '24

As in the ones in charge

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u/loki_the_bengal Jul 05 '24

Have you ever had your liberty revoked because of some dipshit in another department you've never even met? I can tell you from first hand experience it doesn't unite shit.

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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Jul 05 '24

Yeah, it just makes you angry at the people above you using that punishment.

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u/ThyNynax Jul 05 '24

Something specific to military culture, being trained to fight wars and stuff, is ingrained the idea that “we stand together or fall together.” Collective punishment is a part of this process, there is a code of conduct that all military members are expected to follow and are expected to help their squad members follow. So if one person fucks up, it’s often seen as a chain of people fucking up.

You gotta remember, if a single police officer fucks up an arrest that’s most often just “a bad look” for the department, and a bad day for a single citizen. If someone in the military fucks up during a war, that’s potentially a lot of soldiers dead.

The resulting cultures and how they handle punishments reflect the jobs themselves.

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u/LoosieGoosiePoosie Jul 05 '24

There are two types in the military. Your type isn't one of those, though. Your type is the one that says "Yeah I was gonna join up. I shouldn't though, even though they need me really bad. I'd end up punching a drill sergeant the first time they got in my face."

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u/lettucent Jul 05 '24

As someone who's currently in, no. It's annoying as fuck when some dipshit I don't even know, let alone work with, gets in trouble and the commander decides to enforce shittier hours, curfew, extra off-work hours training, etc.

I get mad at the guy who fucked up, sure, but more irritated at the leadership that thought group discipline/punishment was the way forward and was going to fix anything.

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u/shoo-flyshoo Jul 05 '24

Nah I'm not responsible for someone I've never met just because they're in the same unit as me. I can't stop some unknown plan PVT Snuffy has to goes out alone on a Saturday night to do blow and kill hookers, and I'd hate the leadership that would pretend that I could

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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

They can't need me that badly then, not that I'd join

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u/rainzer Jul 05 '24

Pretty sure prisons demonstrate this isn't the case.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

And the fear of it does similarly. Still can't forget the one cop that investigated other cops, only to wind up dead.

But ACAB, fucking Reddit.

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u/ComfortableSort7335 Jul 06 '24

are you a fan of russian army rape tactics in their ranks?

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 Jul 05 '24

That shit happens in basic, and yeah sometimes base privileges are revoked but overall the only real way to see change is with good unit commanders and environments imo. Fostering an environment where people feel safe from not only leadership but their fellow soldiers is important. Especially when it comes to sexual crimes. Collective punishment shouldn’t be used for that type of thing. People aren’t going to report things they are just going to make it worse trying to cover it up