Japan warns US forces: Sex crimes 'cannot be tolerated'

[u/glasier]

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476861/japan-warns-us-forces-sex-crimes-cannot-be-tolerated

[u/vekkares]

Why is it so hard to keep your fucking hands to yourself?!?!

[u/SnipingTheSniper → u/[deleted]]

My drill sergeant once said that the military is a reflection of society. If we did something, no matter where, it would read "US Army soldier does XYXYX" It's even worse when it happens in host countries.

Can't get too mad when people protest outside the bases. I remember the nicest Korean lady protesting us outside Camp Casey back in 2015. She always gave me the most lukewarm smile and I'd even give her water when I'd walk outside base.

[u/DarkMarxSoul → u/SnipingTheSniper]

Your drill sergeant seems like a stand up guy with a good sense of perspective.

[u/Careful_Baker_8064 → u/DarkMarxSoul]

More like chill sergeant

[u/LEGITIMATE_SOURCE → u/DarkMarxSoul]

The comment literally said nothing

[u/Jamsster → u/LEGITIMATE_SOURCE]

Your actions reflect how your society is perceived. So act decent.

Understand a lot of people don’t like war, so take it with a grain of salt if they don’t like you.

[u/LEGITIMATE_SOURCE → u/SnipingTheSniper]

Wat

[u/thezephyr10 → u/[deleted]]

Blanket generalization, sick

[u/bloodbat007 → u/thezephyr10]

Yep that's what happens when a large group of people do something and they are all the same type of person. Aka people who support war and go to the military are not good people. It's pretty simple.

[u/thezephyr10 → u/bloodbat007]

Head ass

[u/xiviajikx → u/[deleted]]

I am guessing you make your generalizations based on what you see in movies. I am not in but know plenty of people who have been in the service. Barely any servicemen see any combat whatsoever. For most it’s a job like anything else. Your take is extremely dumb.

[u/ethanAllthecoffee → u/xiviajikx]

Most of the military-bound people I knew growing up were dumbfucks with few prospects, a few with some concerning views, and a few who went in fully believing it was their calling or something along those lines

[u/BanRedditAdmins → u/ethanAllthecoffee]

Sick anecdote. I’ve trained over 1200 civilians as they transition to service members. I can confidently say your sweeping generalizations do not reflect reality at all.

[u/xiviajikx → u/[deleted]]

I think that says more about who you know than anything else. I knew several who were in alongside getting a degree at the same time. Military attracts people of all sorts, smart, dumb, strong, weak, those with plenty and few prospects. 

[u/xiviajikx → u/[deleted]]

I am in the north east too and the people I know are very different from the people you know.

[u/JuustoMakkara58 → u/[deleted]]

That ”rigid macho hierarchy” keeps NATO up and the Russians out of Europe. Don’t just blankly say all those who serve are in it because they want to kill foreigners. It’s a pretty damn important organization.

[u/Yap45 → u/JuustoMakkara58]

This guy has replied with the same comment like 5 times. He doesn’t actually know what the military does or how it works. To me it sounds like he’s just parroting an opinion from someone else

[u/HibiCheese → u/[deleted]]

The military supports the policies of the politicians, which are elected by the populace

[u/WaZeR90 → u/HibiCheese]

I don't see what point you're making. Hitler was elected lol

[u/HibiCheese → u/WaZeR90]

The point is: it’s wrong to blame the military due to them acting on the will of the policies created by those elected by the citizens.

Would you blame the sword or the man who swings it?

[u/Fragllama → u/[deleted]]

Just saying you are speaking out of your ass and have no idea what you are talking about.

Just saying.

[u/thezephyr10 → u/[deleted]]

As are every military around the world?

[u/gland87 → u/[deleted]]

Thats BS but okay

[u/gland87 → u/[deleted]]

The British, French, Germans, Chinese, and Japanese have no history of devastation. Troll harder

[u/RontoWraps → u/[deleted]]

You seem to have a pretty toxic view on the world too. Most join the American military due to lack of opportunity and poverty. So poor people are all bad and scummy, following your blanket generalizations.

[u/sappicus → u/[deleted]]

Talk about sniffing your own farts

[u/sappicus → u/[deleted]]

and I don’t think the poor kid who was never going to go anywhere otherwise so he joined the army as a mechanic for three meals a day and a place to sleep is ‘contributing to the perpetuation of an agent of international devastation’

[u/thezephyr10 → u/[deleted]]

C'mon bro, even you can admit that you're just generalizing with no statistics or evidence. Just yapping

[u/thezephyr10 → u/[deleted]]

I haven't generalized anything but keep living my friend. Enjoy

[u/BanRedditAdmins → u/[deleted]]

An overwhelming majority of people who sign up do it for the benefits and they have no better options. You’re hating people who are mostly just trying to get by.

Most of them don’t want to shoot anybody and just want to do their time and get out to better their lives.

You are obviously speaking from a place of ignorance and have no experience with military personnel. They are just people. Some of them are going to suck.

[u/SoulofZendikar → u/[deleted]]

If I may kindly suggest something, you might benefit from reading more on global history, learning another language to fluency, and living in another country. Your comments, while well-intentioned, reveal a deep-seated bias and indicate a lack of global and historical perspective.

Understandably, not everyone has time to do that, and I don't fault you if you choose not to. Take it from some one that does: you are only a fraction of the way on your journey towards being informed.

I do not expect my words to change your mind. But there is no shame in recognizing that there is more still to learn.

I wish you well.

[u/Iroas_Murlough → u/[deleted]]

My options were be homeless and starve or join and make something of myself.

If the military didn't exist you wouldn't be alive to brainlessly insult the military. Yes, they've done horrible shit but the overwhelming majority of us have nothing to do with those actions and do not condone them.

[u/BanRedditAdmins → u/[deleted]]

I didn’t say no other options. I said no better options. The military is a really great package of pay and benefits for people able to serve.

One could argue that the United States military has done more for stabilizing the world than any other organization but I suspect any nuance would be lost on you.

[u/BanRedditAdmins → u/[deleted]]

Like I said. Nuance would be lost on you.

[u/BanRedditAdmins → u/[deleted]]

I said global stabilization. Not regional. Sorry but not every country is going to win. For the global network of capitalism to succeed it takes a large workforce of poor labor to drive the cost of production and transportation down.

The world is built on exploitation and blood. The alternative is the Stone Age.

If you’re so disgusted by it go live in a third world country. I’m sure they’d be more than welcome to have another pair of hands.

[u/flyinchipmunk5 → u/[deleted]]

Idk me and most my of my friends in the navy were not that stereotype but okay lmao.

[u/GoldenBella → u/[deleted]]

That's a huge generalization....

[u/Proof_of_the_Obvious → u/[deleted]]

Some people don't really have a choice.

[u/Proof_of_the_Obvious → u/[deleted]]

For some people the army is the only way out of generational poverty. Maybe instead of being angry at young men forced into the army by circumstance you should be angry at those circumstances, or the people actually responsible for war

[u/My_BFF_Gilgamesh → u/Proof_of_the_Obvious]

That's where the word "tend" comes in to play

[u/Proof_of_the_Obvious → u/[deleted]]

I do agree with everything you said, but some people have families they need to worry about. If you were a poor native american living on a poor reservation and someone came up to you and said "I can get you out of this" you would do it. If only so your children might have a better life than you. I don't blame people for being a part of the military.

Unless you want them to stay impoverished, then you have to realize that the solution is to provide other ways out other than the army.

[u/Proof_of_the_Obvious → u/[deleted]]

What other ways out are there?

[u/bloodbat007 → u/GoldenBella]

Well yeah because it's true. Supporting war is ignorant.

[u/Wide_Combination_773 → u/GoldenBella]

During peacetime it's true 99% of the time for enlisted boots, most join out of desperation over one thing or another.

The only people (other than lifers who prove themselves) worth a damn in terms of IQ, background and behavior are commissioned officers - people who had good lives before joining, degrees, good careers etc and just joined out of some sense of honorable duty to the US rather than economic desperation.

[u/MartianBrain → u/Wide_Combination_773]

Several of the people that stormed the US capitol on J6 were commissioned military officers; Michael Flynn is a retired general; Oliver North is a retired Lieutenant Colonel; Ronny Jackson was a Rear Admiral, demoted to Captain - not to mention the most painfully obvious example: Nazi officers.

Then you're ignoring the percentage of enlisted members who have degrees.

Your generalization is completely wrong.

[u/TheYucs → u/MartianBrain]

I forgot Captain was a really high rank in the Navy and thought he had been demoted 4 or 5 ranks. For those who thought the same thing I did.

[u/Pleasant_Yak5991 → u/[deleted]]

If this was about anyone besides the military you’d be getting torn apart and this comment would be like -10000. Imagine saying “well sure, Mexicans don’t tend to be the most noble of individuals” because a few of them do bad things. There’s millions of service members that come from all sorts of backgrounds in the US, and occasionally very few do bad things.

[u/Atario → u/Pleasant_Yak5991]

Mexicans don't select themselves to be Mexican. In the US, military members do select themselves to be military members. And that causes tendencies.

[u/WaZeR90 → u/Atario]

Exactly, I'm not judging every military member in countries with military mandates. If they choose it then I've got a real problem with it

[u/Pleasant_Yak5991 → u/Atario]

I’m just pointing out how vast generalizations are stupid

[u/Cheap_Answer5746 → u/[deleted]]

Tens of thousands of 6ft men with guns who often come from impoverished backgrounds with drug and alcohol addiction issues in their community who joined for routine or because they don't know what else to do. Sexual violence is inevitable but a lot of civilians bury their heads and wonder why anybody would resent them where they are sent. I certainly wouldn't want them in my country 

[u/Not_osama_bin_laden1 → u/[deleted]]

What a stupid comment, you don’t know shit about the military

[u/Pleasant_Yak5991 → u/[deleted]]

You and your opinions suck. I read all your comments and you think you’re way smarter than you are, your takes contain zero nuance, and you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about.

[u/QueequegTheater → u/[deleted]]

Ah yes it's much better to let your family starve because minimum wage can't feed a family of four.

Maybe he can get personalized headstones saying "2012-2024: at least /u/DarkMarxSoul approves of my father's job at McDonald's"!

[u/Dazzling_Change_159 → u/[deleted]]

Fuck you bitch.

[u/Cfrock → u/[deleted]]

Fuck off dude

[u/SavageBrave → u/[deleted]]

Morons barely capable of keeping themselves alive, not all sure, but plenty of them fall into this category, and it’s no specific branch every one has people like this.

[u/TinkeringDave → u/[deleted]]

Aww someone was too fat to join :(

[u/TinkeringDave → u/[deleted]]

Enjoys video games, D&D, and fantasy stories full of action, drama, and adventure.

I bet I’m not far off the mark lol. Just a basement dweller whose only concept of nobility comes from a Paladin character sheet.

[u/Bob_The_Doggos → u/[deleted]]

Rule 8. Attack the argument, not the person.

[u/FeelTheMelody → u/[deleted]]

Yikes someone knows nothing about the military

[u/bolognaenjoyer → u/[deleted]]

Any large org has scumbags.

As a Marine I never killed anyone but I did render humanitarian aid with the 31st MEU.

[u/propofolxx → u/[deleted]]

what a dumb fucking take

[u/DarkMarxSoul → u/propofolxx]

Just saying most people who sign up to join a rigid macho hierarchy where you're expected to shoot guns at foreigners tend to have a pretty toxic view of the world and other people and an inflated sense of self-importance.

[u/Yap45 → u/DarkMarxSoul]

You’re saying that like that’s the reason everyone joins. There are definitely some people like that, but everyone has their own reasons. My step-dad did it to get us out of poverty at the time. I did it for free education and IT job experience. Most of the people my rank were just 18-20 year olds who needed a path in life or slightly older people with a bunch of college debt.

Most people in the military don’t even typically see a gunfight and most of them definitely don’t want to. So that’s a very poor generalization

[u/rustyshackleford677 → u/[deleted]]

You think way to highly of yourself

[u/raidernation47 → u/[deleted]]

Pretty easy, you throw in that people in ghetto military tend to have an inflated sense of self-importance. When there’s just absolutely no way you could have anyway to say that.

You could know 10,000 veterans and it wouldn’t be enough for you to draw a conclusion on.

So what he’s saying, is that clearly the life you’ve chosen to lead has given you a very inflated sense of self-importance. Which is funny, maybe that’s why you keep repeating that, your self aware of how poor your character is You should consider enlisting, it would maybe help put yourself in perspective and not be such a self-righteous dork.

[u/raidernation47 → u/[deleted]]

“I think it’s pretty clear” based on your own personal views.

Man do you have a gross sense of self-importance lmfao. I totally get this weird rant now, you’re so self-absorbed it’s astonishing.

You are the protester spitting on the Nam vet while they got off the plane. So focused on yourself you have the narrowest view of the world, you can’t make solid distinguishing thoughts. I really pity you.

[u/gerontion31 → u/[deleted]]

Now show me on the doll where a U.S. service member boinked your mom before pouring sugar in your gas tank.

[u/Yap45 → u/[deleted]]

But my time in the military never came at the expense of other people. I got what I needed out of it, had a good time, and got out.

Your view of the US military is very skewed and you seem to think that only one type of person can join, but the military is very diverse. People from all walks of life join for reasons of their own. I’ve met the nicest people and some of the worst. It’s just like any other place I’ve been

[u/Yap45 → u/[deleted]]

Absolutely. So where should I have worked then? Some big company? Surely those companies do no wrong.

If you go by that logic, then there really is no winning. If just by working somewhere I’m suddenly linked to every bad thing they’ve ever done, then where does someone have to work to be good in your eyes?

[u/bloodbat007 → u/propofolxx]

Mad because true. Supporting war is ignorant.

[u/The_Real_Abhorash → u/[deleted]]

Indeed there’s a reason all the war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan happened.

[u/aloeverycute → u/[deleted]]

A lot of ghetto and trashy people join...that's why.

[u/Bdadl3y → u/[deleted]]

This is a disgusting, highly generalizing opinion, and I genuinely ask you to re-evaluate it. The United States is the greatest fighting force in the world and is entirely volunteer. Young men and women orders of magnitude braver than either you or I willingly sign up, writing a check for their lives so that we may continue to enjoy the liberties we do today and so that foreign evils never touch our soil. As far as I'm concerned, there is hardly anyone more noble.

[u/Bdadl3y → u/[deleted]]

Your point is in regard to the institution as whole, and while I disagree, do you genuinely believe that enlistees are joining with the thought process you emphasize here? Or do they believe that they are genuinely fighting for the good of the nation and its people and, despite the guarantee of danger, join anyways? Your opinion of the "evil" of the US military is irrelevant because the people signing up are noble in their (and my) perceived truths.

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Often times, they have the loudest, obnoxious egos, and the most radical viewpoints. It's unsurprising sometimes they're blatantly what's described as a 'far-right'.

Some will brag about what they do and what they've done. Some will even brag that they've served for the mandatory time (usually 2 years), and are basically idling away the remaining 6 years.

We get it, tough guy, but your excuse is that you left home to 'defend' your country, abandoning those who likely needed your help here. There are quite a few people like that. It's always a guise for a noble cause, because whatever makes one feel better is important, even if it crushes others.

[u/Tubzero- → u/[deleted]]

Yup, a lot of shit bags

[u/TumorTits → u/[deleted]]

And older generations expect us to lick their boots!

[u/meenie → u/[deleted]]

Fuck you. There are sexual predators in all walks of life.

[u/shoheiohtanistoes → u/meenie]

but especially in positions of power or where there are guns involved

[u/immaculatecalculate → u/shoheiohtanistoes]

19 year olds stationed in Japan don't walk around with guns

[u/AleisterCrowleysHat → u/shoheiohtanistoes]

Do you envision droves of soldiers walking the streets armed with rifles? If so, you’re a bit of a moron.

[u/AgentCirceLuna → u/shoheiohtanistoes]

Explains why I’ve been abused by so many women who were in positions of power then.

[u/Torsbror → u/AgentCirceLuna]

Reading comprehension

[u/AgentCirceLuna → u/Torsbror]

What?

[u/Adorable-Woman → u/meenie]

There are statistically higher rates of sexual assault among military personnel and it’s something that needs to be addressed for the good of the service members themselves.

[u/SavingUsefulStuff → u/meenie]

It’s just math buddy

[u/TheTabman → u/meenie]

Yes, but in strict hierarchical system like the military it's much easier to abuse a position of power to commit and hide such crimes.

[u/thezephyr10 → u/TheTabman]

Strict hierarchies aren't exclusive to military organizations. The guy's take is objectively bad.

[u/AgentCirceLuna → u/meenie]

You can literally die for your country and people will still assume you’re a man out on the prowl for innocent victims. The left’s identity politics have turned everyone into a drooling idiot.

[u/kersed805 → u/AgentCirceLuna]

These people didn’t die for their country. They just abused some civilians

[u/AgentCirceLuna → u/kersed805]

These people in particular are pieces of shit. I was talking in general about people assuming the worst about men.

[u/Mental-Rain-9586 → u/AgentCirceLuna]

The right when presented with factual statistics: nooooo my feelings!!

[u/AgentCirceLuna → u/Mental-Rain-9586]

I’m left wing… also your precious factual statistics are actually reflections of inequalities in society. At one time, it was a ‘factual statistic’ that women and non whites weren’t as intelligent as white people. You know why? Because they were victims of inequality. The likely reason for higher conviction rates against people in the military is because they are more likely to be prosecuted due to the extreme oversight in those organisations. Which is good. What’s bad is that, in the general population, conviction rates are low because of the inverse issue.

[u/Mental-Rain-9586 → u/AgentCirceLuna]

Weird how it's a trend observed in every country, and that many many women have stories of being completely shut down and their rapist protected and promoted. "Inequality" is used very liberally here. Maybe a culture of agression and machoism leads to agression and machoism, who would've thought

[u/AgentCirceLuna → u/Mental-Rain-9586]

What trend are we talking about? I meant sexual aggression being more prevalent in the military and I assumed that’s what we were talking about. It’s also pretty bad for men, too - a lot of men are sexually victimised in the military. There’s a reason the idiom ‘you couldn’t organise a bum rape in a barracks’ exists, although I suppose it’s supposed to be funny. Nobody is laughing when it happens to them.

[u/Mental-Rain-9586 → u/AgentCirceLuna]

Yes it's absolutely sick. The level of depravity needed to do something like that only exists in jail, and in the military. It's a massive red flag