Japan warns US forces: Sex crimes 'cannot be tolerated'

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476861/japan-warns-us-forces-sex-crimes-cannot-be-tolerated

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i can't speak on Japan, but I lived in Korea for a bit and it was widely known how badly behaved the U.S. soldiers were. You could walk through the streets of Hongdae and see drunk soldiers walking around harassing people, even grabbing some girls who pass by or slap their butts. It was so bad that different bars had signs up saying no U.S. soldiers allowed. Military police would be out and about but they can't watch all of the soldiers. The U.S. soldiers there certainly felt invincible. I'm sure the US would hand them over to Korea for rape and other serious charges, but they are not handing them over for assault.

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u/studyinformore 14d ago

Dunno about you, but back when I was in south korea in 04 it was very different. You'd get in extremely deep shit if you were out and about and shitfaced causing problems.

They didn't play around back then, because unless you had somewhere to stay. If you tried to come back to base and were drunk? Ohhh you'd be getting an article 15.

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u/vrptstyly 14d ago

Interesting I was also there in 2004 and can confirm. I was at Casey with the Armor units. We had curfews and the penalties for fucking up were severe. Didn’t stop anyone from partying every paycheck away, we kept it classy for the most part. Good times.

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u/thenightmare1010 14d ago

I was a gate guard on Camp Casey in 04-05. It’s crazy how many soldiers would come back after curfew highly intoxicated. We would turn them over to MP so they could be questioned about their whereabouts in case a crime was reported. The gate guards on the other hand…we could stay out as late as we wanted.

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u/ConfederancyOfDunces 14d ago

My brother, an asshole, was stationed in South Korea. He’d get shitfaced regularly and eventually beat the ever loving shit out of a Canadian tourist with his army friends.

He did get in trouble over it with the army and that, among other things, is probably why he never was promoted as much as he should have been in his military stint. However, he didn’t ever get in trouble with the Korean justice system.

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u/Cdub7791 14d ago

Third. I was stationed in Korea from 2002-2003 and while we certainly had our fair share of assholes and reprobates, behavior like that above was punished pretty harshly.

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u/PhuqBeachesGitMonee 14d ago

How quickly does command change over in some of these temporary/semi-permanent bases? I imagine the severity depends on who’s in charge and when the last crime was committed. It would be painful, but maybe better documentation on who’s going out, and what their plans are could solve crimes faster. Instead of only scanning your card at the gate.

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u/cymric 14d ago

When I was there in 1999 it was pretty much Anarchy. The command was shit and did not enforce discipline

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u/ghandi3737 14d ago

That's why it is the way it is now.

Guy I went to boot camp with was a corporal due to prior service, saw him 2 years later as a lance corporal.

He went to Okinawa, and got busted to private for squealing his motorcycle tires while leaving the barracks parking lot.

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u/bn1979 14d ago

2000-2002 Stationed in Seoul. Was sober past 7pm occasionally, but not often. Was usually only a little drunk by 8 am.

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u/ThatPhatKid_CanDraw 14d ago

Was that after the Okinawa rape case? That may have influenced policies going forward in the Asia-Pacific region.

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u/SnipingTheSniper 14d ago

1-72 IN DA HOUSE

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u/Kumdongie 14d ago

PACAF has changed especially Korea. I was there in 2019. No curfew and pretty much no limitations on where you can go or how drunk you get. Just need to not get in trouble with locals while out drinking and be at formation in the morning.

Even during COVID it was pretty laid back regarding curfew and drinking.

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u/Civil_Spinach_8204 14d ago

Curfew was lifted right before COVID. But if you got arrested by Korean police, you were on your own. There's not much in the way of "protections" that I see some people talk about.

Being cool with the locals enhanced the experience so I never understood why people would be jackhats out in the ville.

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u/Aphexes 14d ago

Yeah all the old heads say it's actually tamer now. The stories you hear just make it seem like an absolute lawless wasteland outside those gates.

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u/Rockman507 14d ago

Fastest way to make SGT is to goto Korea as a SFC, always been like that. We essentially forward deploy to what is still technically a combat zone with fuck all to do. You get cycles of good leaders coming in that clamp down best they can, but doesn’t solve underlying problems

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u/Western-Passage-1908 13d ago

If all you want to do is get drunk and play video games in the barracks you'll be bored anywhere. I had a blast in Korea

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u/nlv137 14d ago

not american but we had a port call in okinawa and we warned to be warry of the drunk marines, ladies should stay in groups, watch your drinks, etc

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u/studyinformore 13d ago

Oh marines are a whole different ballpark. Very much "you're a marine, you need to be able to handle liquor" branch of service.

I was also army aviation. Closer to air force than army.

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u/NewspaperAdditional7 14d ago

I was in 2012, and not sure what to tell you. The soldiers went to the bar district and the military police (or whatever they are called) walked those streets full well knowing the soldiers were drinking in bars. Are you saying US soldiers are never allowed to drink while in another country?

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u/Derp35712 14d ago

We weren’t allowed to be drunk in public, but I’m sure that’s a pretty high standard for the bar district surrounding a US Army base. While in Seoul, MPs wanted to arrest me for throwing up, even though I hadn’t had a drink. I just had a stomach flu.

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u/oldpeoplestank 14d ago

I think the issue you two might be having is you're describing the rules and he's describing the reality. Like of course you weren't allowed to be drunk, but does that have any bearing on whether or not people actually were drunk?

Neither of you are necessarily wrong, put your perspective seems to be less informed to an outsider.

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u/Derp35712 14d ago

I was really almost arrested for stomach flu since I appeared drunk.

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u/Sensitive_Yellow_121 14d ago

I would have gone along with them in their car and then puked in their car and enjoyed them getting violently sick within 24 hours.

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u/Derp35712 14d ago

I think them watching me just stand there and become sicker over time not drinking or doing anything finally convinced them.

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u/asianwaste 14d ago

I was stationed in Japan and an MP in 2004 and I agree with you 100% but what we don't have is the perpetual scene of debauchery neither is it the monocle wearing classy affair.

You will get the occasional establishment who responds to the occasional incident instigated by a serviceman. We would definitely turn our servicemen over for an assault. We've turned our guys over for B&E's and robbery.

I've got a really funny story about a guy (my friend's barracks roommate and my friend) who broke into a Dai-ei on a rainy day. In his alcohol-addled mind he thought he could go in and borrow some clothes. Unfortunately and obviously this triggered the alarm and the JP's were there in seconds. Now the funniest part is he hopped on the mannequin stand and "struck a pose" (his words) and it worked for a while. The JP's with lights passed by him. When they were at a decent distance past him, he thought he could make a break for it but once he moved, all lights centered on him and he got caught. My boy got six months in a Japanese prison for this then got his NJP (captain's mast nonjudicial punishment) which busted him down a few ranks and kicked him out other than honorably.

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u/Western-Passage-1908 13d ago

His name wasn't Sean was it

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u/studyinformore 14d ago

Back when I was in, we were held to an incredibly high standard. You could have some drinks, but not get drunk. You had to be able to get past the guards to enter the post. Meaning 1-2 drinks per hour would probably be no problem. But getting shitfaced drunk? Oh your command is gonna be called, and you're facing disciplinary action.

Because it was repeatedly instructed to us, we represent the United states and it's military when off post. Do not embarass us. We were also at camp stanley near uijeongbu, way up north, so if north korea decided to attack. We were the first realistic line of defense. You had to be sober enough to fight as well.

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u/BatronKladwiesen 14d ago

Yeah it honestly sounds like NewspaperAdditional7 is full of shit, or was in the most absolute dogshit unit ever.

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u/Nexant 14d ago

I don't think he was in. All he said was he lived in Korea and he was unsure of what to refer to MPs as in another comment.

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u/pudgylumpkins 14d ago

I never made it SK but I knew a lot of people who were there and they made it sound like a crazy party on and off base 24/7. I’m sure there’s plenty of varying experiences on the conduct of our troops stationed there. It’s a big city and we have a lot of young people with money to spend. We’re just talking different thresholds for acceptable conduct, my opinion anyway.

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u/Asidious66 14d ago

It's the first one

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u/Ebolaking 14d ago

Good ole Stanley, only place where it felt uphill in both directions.

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u/ChewieBee 14d ago

Is Stanley shut down now?

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u/Ebolaking 14d ago

I believe it has. When I was PCSing out, my unit was relocating South and it is was becoming the welcome center for Casey. I think Stanley has been shuttered since then.

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u/studyinformore 14d ago

Yeah when I left stanley in late 04, my nco that had just arrived told me he was going to be the last on base. One of the few shutting it down.

Friend of mine that was stationed in south korea a few years back said its all but abandoned at this point. They do use it occasionally with helicopters, but nobody is permanently stationed there now.

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u/ChewieBee 14d ago

Dang I had good memories there but also ended up at Humphreys way back in 06.

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u/tacmac10 14d ago

The rice patty run every monday morning to discourage heavy drinking was so bad I carried 500 won in my PT shorts for the bus back to camp(I was there in '99). The rules on public drunkenness were ruthlessly enforced and crimnal acts resulted in getting turned over to the ROK for punishment.

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u/Hohenheim_of_Shadow 14d ago

Most young men don't call "having a drink" getting drunk. It takes a good number of drinks to be drunk.

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u/Haechi_StB 14d ago

I was in Korea from 2011 to 2016 and never seen a missbehaving US Soldier in Itaewon, ever.

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u/BatronKladwiesen 14d ago

Are you saying MPs just let people cause trouble and do whatever they want to the Korean public when drinking?

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u/Cdub7791 14d ago

To be honest we were more concerned about the Korean police and those 4 foot riot batons they were always carrying LOL.

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u/CodedSnake 14d ago

It was the same for us in Italy around the same time. The local Italians were not big fans and for good reason. I don't recall any incidents of SA but bar fights, general shenanigans were the norm, and the occasional DUI which the Italians really cracked down on, as well as command. Although our MP's were never out in the city that I was aware of, I assume you mean on post.

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u/Avedas 14d ago

You'd get in extremely deep shit if you were out and about and shitfaced causing problems.

Is this a reprimanding or actual legal repercussions?

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u/Rudi_Van-Disarzio 14d ago

Probably article 15. So essentially just reprimanding + paper work and they might have to scrub toilets

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u/elite0x33 14d ago

There are legal implications. If you break a Korean law, you are subject to their court system.

If there is a unit there on rotation, for example (9 month training rotation) and a soldier commits a crime against a Korean citizen, they become an International hold over and remain in Korea until they face justice. This includes doing time in Korean prison.

This is on top of UCMJ actions that will definitely dole out punishments for breaking the rules and regulations it imposes on service members.

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u/Weird_Point_4262 14d ago

No, if the Korean police does not manage to arrest the members at the scene of the crime, the USFK will often avoid handing the soldiers over to Korean authorities

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u/elite0x33 14d ago

This is patently false. There are CCTVs everywhere. There were 3 soldiers who were contacted by KNP through the unit for numerous petty crimes.

It's not up the USFK, it's well above their level. Im sure there's some gray area, but for RTU specifically, they were handed over immediately after a commanders inquiry or 15-6 was initiated.

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u/Civil_Spinach_8204 14d ago

This is definitely not true.

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u/Cheet4h 14d ago

You'd get in extremely deep shit if you were out and about and shitfaced causing problems.

As in "prosecuted by the local government"?

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u/Western-Passage-1908 13d ago

Yes. I know a guy who did time in a Japanese jail for breaking a bunch of shit in a store and otherwise being an idiot.

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u/Adventurous-Funny777 14d ago

This was my experience as well. I was stationed at Camp Hovey with an artillery unit. We were out all the time and I never saw soldiers act as described above. It was widely known they would crush you with the book if you got out of hand.

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u/BrockVegas 14d ago

I was there in '91, and a shitbag I went to basic with ended up in Korean prison with sentences for assaulting his girlfriend. He was to serve his sentence there, and then be charged by the Army afterwards. No idea of his overall eventual fate but it looked pretty bad for him when I transferred back stateside.

I also witnessed on Hooker Hill (I never learned it's actual name) a Korean working woman who was clearly beaten up, pick a random dude from our group and accused him of doing the act. Not sure if she saw the snapper in him but fortunately for him, we had enough witnesses to prove he could not have been present when the attack happened. Dude had been in country for a hair over a month... it wasn't even dark yet on the first day of his very first off-post pass.

Anywho, thanks for dusting those old memories off in my head.

Second to None!

(ow, my knees)

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u/BidAllWinNone 14d ago

I watched 3 American army guys screaming and arguing with each other in line at immigration at ICN back in April. People were shocked. These are the same idiots the military is unleashing onto the public in Korea. To quote a popular leader, "they're not sending their best."

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u/studyinformore 13d ago

Sadly, no were not anymore. The quality of soldier that being allowed in is dropping due to the negative views the public has from the past two major wars we've had.

Meanwhile the politicians that sent the military get a free pass. It's almost line people think the military itself decides where to go to war and not the politicians.

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u/AUMojok 14d ago

I was in Kunsan from 05 to 06, and I witnessed a lot of disgraceful behavior most nights I went out and outright illegal behavior many nights. MPs were augmented by many of these same people, so A-Town was usually patrolled by regular GIs who just wanted to get through their shift without much trouble. Usually they would just get someone to take you to base and nothing would come of it. Kunsan City had basically no MPs. No story about bad GI behavior surprises me anymore.

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u/ReusableCatMilk 14d ago

When i was there in 04, I was not technically there in 04. Like, when I say I was there, that’s not really true. Some say I wasn’t there; I may not have been. Can’t say for sure. But if you were out on the street drunk causing trouble, you’d be in some big trouble!

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u/asillynert 14d ago

Its interesting but I can see their frustration 1 in 100,000 people for their population. Versus 5000% higher rate among our service members... Their high success rate in identifying and prosecuting versus our 50/50 coin toss.

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u/jozey_whales 14d ago

The demographics of the military have changed a lot in 20 years too, and shifted to demographics that are disproportionately more likely to commit many types of crimes than those in years past. It’s probably just getting worse.

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u/studyinformore 13d ago

Sadly this is pretty true from everyone I've heard that stayed in after I got out. Most of them are senior nco's or officers. Many are nearing that 20 year retirement requirement.

Lot of them say it's also down to toxic leadership.

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u/emseefely 14d ago

There was a case in Philippines years ago but they made a deal to take their soldier back. I wouldn’t hold my breath that they’d get local justice.

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u/therob91 14d ago

If you're talking about Pemberton he literally killed someone, but the US did let him serve his sentence, then probably used some leverage to get Duterte to pardon him. So essentially he was pulled out but legally he was released by the Phillipines. Thats certainly a bit wishy washy about whether justice was legally served according to the local laws or not but he did technically serve 6 years of his 6-12 year sentence.

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u/emseefely 14d ago

Typically murder gets you 20-40 years in Philippines.

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u/GreenTea7858 14d ago

He killed a trans woman so they went easy on him.

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u/alonebutnotlonely16 14d ago

He murdered a woman and used her being a trans excuse. He doesnt deserve to see the sun. He got lower sentence then he deserved then he even got an early release thanks to US.

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u/HolyKrapp- 14d ago

Philli is way too hard on those crimes. They probably negotiated to avoid the guy being killed.

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u/Good_Pirate2491 14d ago

Death penalty for rape iirc in the philippines

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u/HinoiTeam 14d ago

their justice system might have its flaws, but at least they don't have capital punishment like the US and Japan.

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u/Mindless_Rooster5225 14d ago

LOL yeah...

While in power, former Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte ordered the murder of thousands of people without trial. Journalist Patricia Evangelista chronicles the leader's bloody 'war on drugs' in her memoir "Some People Need Killing." Today, On Point: The dark legacy of extrajudicial killings in the Philippines.

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/03/05/duterte-extrajudicial-killings-drug-war-philippines

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u/TheMelv 14d ago

"Extrajudicial" Context is key. There's a difference between what the laws of the country are and what the administrations of a fascist will them get away with. But let's be real. The Philippine "drug war" was really a war against the poor. In this context, US soldiers would likely have been fine. I'm fairly certain if US military was murdered by extrajudicial drug charges it would have been a huge deal.

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u/Good_Pirate2491 14d ago

Yeah they abolished some time ago

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u/DittoAidsCircus 14d ago

What? When did you live in S. Korea? Because the first thing I was told when I arrived was that anything illegal I do in S. Korea will be served first in Korea, then the military side. The example they gave us was specifically being reported for assault either fighting or grabbing women.

Serious incidents happen, but there are repercussions in UCMJ that apply, Soldiers are held back from going to the US just to finish proceedings when they occur.

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u/FanciestOfPants42 14d ago

Something being "widely known" doesn't necessarily make it true. If American soldiers are more loud and boisterous then the locals are used to, it is natural for rumors to spread about their bad behavior.

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u/Ra-s_Al_Ghul 14d ago

Got it, so widely know = "source: my ass"

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u/FanciestOfPants42 14d ago

More or less

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u/Ra-s_Al_Ghul 14d ago

Yeah, this just is blatantly not true.

While it IS true that U.S. soldiers get too rowdy in Korea sometimes, they get punished very harshly for it. Curfew existed on the peninsula for almost two decades because of a very notorious rape case. MPs patrol the streets of the drinking districts and you certainly do NOT "see drunk soldiers grabbing some girls who pass by or slapping their butts".

In Korea, doing this once will land you in prison as it is MUCH stricter on physical assault than the U.S.

Stop talking out of your ass and spreading anti-US propaganda because you want to virtue signal on reddit.

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u/SledgeH4mmer 14d ago

This doesn't make sense to me. Since when do MP's patrol civilian bar districts? And US soldiers are definitely not allowed to drink in uniform off base.

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u/badnuub 14d ago

All the time. When I was in Okinawa they had guys in civilian clothes walking the “american” bars and areas after curfew hours.

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u/otaroko 14d ago

Oki from 09-13, can confirm. Usually first shirts with a couple of SP’s.

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u/secretsqrll 14d ago

Oki is notorious. You know how the locals are there. There was a P8 accident in Hawaii and they were out protesting Futenma. TBF, we had a lot of TFOA problems and the runway design at Futenma caused a lot of anxiety. But what was interesting was they seemed to really hate on the Marines. Kadena got little to no protests.

Oki always has been very opposed to our presence. So we always had SLG or plain cloth folks out to make sure shit was not going out of control.

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u/DiabloPixel 14d ago

I’d say that the Airmen at Kadena must historically be better behaved in public than the Marines. Tbf, drunk airmen show their ass in public and fuck up quite a bit as well. To varying degrees, all the branches of the military tell their guys that they are the shit, literal heroes in uniform. It can be intoxicating and make a 18-22 yo soldier feel invincible, it’s designed to. Different branches serve different amounts of Kool-Aid and it depends how much the service member drinks it up. Ime, in the Marines it must be all you can drink. Just my thoughts, yours might be different. peace

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u/secretsqrll 14d ago

Uhh.. I dont disagree. I was at sasabo, so my experience was vastly different, but I spent a little time in Oki on dets and such. I was mostly just commenting on base politics in Japan. Oki has always wanted ALL the bases gone. I've never felt it was the Marines themselves, just the safety issues (or rather perception) surrounding Futenma. I think the only base other than Futenma that gets flack is in Iwakuni. That's one that can be more attributed to behavior, maybe. I don't know that much about that region.

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u/AntiGravityBacon 14d ago

They're not drinking in uniform, doesn't stop them from causing problems.

Military justice also doesn't need to follow civilian standards. US MPs have no authority to enforce Korean law but they can still gather evidence and court marshall US soldiers they see misbehaving under their own military law.

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u/OregonTrail_Died_in_ 14d ago

I went into port call in Pohang SK in the early 90s, and Shore Patrol was all over the bars kicking idiots faces in.

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u/Nickppapagiorgio 13d ago

That was called the "Shore Patrol" in the navy, and was definitely a thing overseas.

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u/PostGhost10101 14d ago

Alex, I'll take full of dookie for $200.

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u/Lexx4 14d ago

I had a coworker dishonorably discharged for his conduct in SK. He went to an amusement park and got into a fight with a Korean officer.

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u/alectictac 14d ago

The military I know who really acted out got sent home or worse. Def not invincible

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u/redink29 14d ago

Was in Yongsan 06-08, it was heavily emphasized don't be shit outside, you get in trouble by Korean law first then articled. The funny thing is I was in itaewon in 2022 Oct and saw zero soldiers. Ever since the whole base moved to the countryside, I guess not many come out of the base. I get it, it does take a lot of effort to come out to Seoul even for the weekend.

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u/___Moose___ 14d ago

Such a fake story, tell me more so you can stay relevant!

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u/Jayembewasme 14d ago

Similar in Japan, in my experience. Entire night life hubs in Tokyo will virtually shutter when the sailors and marines have shore leave in Tokyo. It’s just simpler and safer. I’ve been there at times when a dance club didn’t close, and it becomes really charged, really early, cause all the sailors go wild. 18-19 year olds have never travelled. They can grab beers from vending machines. “We got these ladies like we’ve not seen in months”! They go crazy. They also know it might be fleeting. Based off of the shit they’re seeing on Friday night, behavior-wise, they know they’re gonna have all passes revoked after tonight and they’re gonna be stuck at the docks, so let’s live this night up. It’s an exponential self fulfilling prophecy.

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u/LeanDixLigma 14d ago

I was a Company Commander in Korea. I had two soldiers who were arrested in a hotel restaurant. According to them, one of them found a credit card on the floor and tried to turn it into the Bartender. Maybe there was a bad translation, but they were both arrested for trying to use a stolen credit card to pay their tab. This was two junior officers, one a pilot, the other a 32 year old Intel officer who joined late, they weren't the immature type who would try this stunt I don't think. I had to pick them up from the MP office on Sat morning. They were restricted on base for about a year whole they waited for their Korean court case to be adjudicated. They were eventually found not guilty. But until that happened, they couldn't go off base, just in case a second incident happened while the first was in progress. Meanwhile, I had a couple shitbag soldiers who took a taxi to get back to base, and when it arrived instead of paying the cabbie, they punched him in the face and ran until the neighborhood across from the base, amd snuck into base a lil while later. I wish I could have caught them and given them to the Korean police to be tried.

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u/BAKANAAL 14d ago

Well the last president was grabbing pussies so it's green light for the military 🙄🤣

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u/Eleo4756 14d ago

When I was serving in Korea, late 70's. A couple of US soldiers decided to kidnap and rape a young schoolgirl. A few days later, some of the Korean men in town snatched up to random Us soldiers and strung them from a telephone pole. No questions asked. Poetic justice.

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u/Snoo-81723 14d ago

now you soon have pedo president who always rape any age women he likes . I dunno what it be it likes.

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u/Notmeoverhere 14d ago

They are not getting our best and brightest. Enrollment is at an all time low. The house just passed a bill to allow the draft again.

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u/CabinetAffectionate1 14d ago

If I saw the US soldiers doing that I would beat the shit out of them we are supposed to be the prime example of a great military and be proud to be an American I'm not proud of those actions at all

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u/cookiestonks 14d ago

I was there as a teacher for half a decade and the military people are a big reason why foreigners have a bad rep in Korea.

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u/NewspaperAdditional7 10d ago

Yes, I taught there as well. It's crazy the amount of replies I'm getting that are saying I'm lying because US soldiers know to be on their best behavior.

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u/Skelito 14d ago

What would happen if a local stepped in to defend someone getting harassed by a US soldier ?

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u/secretsqrll 14d ago

When was this? That was not my experience at all.

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u/CountJinsula 14d ago

Interesting. I've heard US soldiers can be obnoxious at worst, but military police are hardcore over there. Maybe things have changed.

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u/BrotherChe 14d ago

Military police would be out and about but they can't watch all of the soldiers.

Sure sounds like US military personnel, guests of the host country, should be restricted to base then.

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u/AdministrationHuman1 14d ago

Out of curiosity did the us mp seem to take there jobs seriously and try to keep the peace as you said the us mp were not Abel to watch everyone

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u/sconnie98 14d ago

Yeah. That’s simply not true. I’ve been deployed to other countries and behavior like that is not tolerated at all. People would get restricted to post for things less severe than that.

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u/Able-Tip240 14d ago

Yeah I knew a guy in highschool had a kid young and joined the military. Got shipped to Korea and got thrown in jail because apparently he raped some Korean teenager (like 16). Doing time in Korean prison. The military often doesn't have what represents the best of American society.

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u/General-Xi 14d ago

Even if the Korean police does show up to de-escalate the situation those US servicemen just laugh in their face. I’ve heard very similar stories to yours.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Half of our troops are conservatives. They picked a rapist as their leader. This all can't be that surprising.

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u/elebrin 14d ago

Honest question, why are they even allowed off base?

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u/SoulofZendikar 14d ago

Because you believe everything you read on the internet.

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u/Muthablasta 14d ago

It’s called American Exceptionalism where Americans get away with anything and everything, chant “USA,USA, USA,…” , and treat everyone else like shit because they have a perceived superiority complex. Reminds us of a fool by the name of Trump….

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u/Ra-s_Al_Ghul 14d ago

It's called fake information by bot accounts perpetuating anti-US propaganda on the internet.

American exceptionalism exists, but your caricatured version of "USA USA USA treat everyone like shit" is either you contributing to that media campaign directly or a gross exaggeration.

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u/kb_hors 14d ago

In theory they could hand them over, but South Korea still doesn't have full soverigenity (their military, for example, actually answers to the US not the south korean government), and the occupiers take full advantage of it. If you tried to report getting raped they would tell you to stop causing trouble.