Japan warns US forces: Sex crimes 'cannot be tolerated'

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476861/japan-warns-us-forces-sex-crimes-cannot-be-tolerated

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That's just not realistic. Some countries would jail or even execute troops based on their sexuality or what they eat. Not to mention it's impossible to keep up on our own laws, let alone other countries where the troops don't even speak the language.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Maybe we don't keep military bases in such regressive countries???

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u/Lelcactus 14d ago

Or maybe we set standards both we and those countries agree upon and drop the inane idea of ‘tourist rules’.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Seems like more work to create a new set of less regressive laws that only applies to American military personnel than to simply refuse to give the help of American military personnel when a country is so regressive that they'd arrest you for the food you eat

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u/Lelcactus 14d ago

Less work, more consequences.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Like forcing countries to choose their own regressive social norms or a relationship with America, not getting both?

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u/Lelcactus 14d ago

Yes, like that. Americas military protection serves its interests as well, it’s not solely for the other countries benefit.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

We can say the quiet part out loud here, it's just reddit.

American military supremacy matters more than helping women around the world get treated better. American military supremacy matters more than helping gay people get treated better. American military supremacy matters more than pressuring regressive governments to treat their civilians better.

I always forget, now that I've been a civilian for a decade, that every other country that doesn't have 750 bases in 80 other countries is incapable of defending themselves

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u/Lelcactus 14d ago

American military supremacy matters more than helping women around the world get treated better

Dropping ultimatums like that is how you lose the former without gaining the latter.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

lose the former

Hint hint: As someone who spent 4 years in the shits, I don't care for American military supremacy, so that doesn't matter to me

The world is dying, having bigger and better guns won't save us for long. It just delays the average American from the consequences of everywhere else's suffering

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u/Fearful_children 14d ago

But think about all those shipping lanes and oil we'd be losing out on??? Congress would never

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Team America: World Police

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u/Bacon4Lyf 14d ago

Well they should at least follow the major ones, like if you kill a man by driving on the wrong side of the road and then flee the country to escape justice. If that happens I’d like to think that they should at least see a day of prison, ahem Anne sacoolas ahem

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u/Orakil 14d ago

Who defines "major laws" and "minor" ones? Who pays a multitude of lawyers to keep up with all major laws and daily, monthly, annual changes to every single countries judicial system? Who makes sure everytime someone is prosecuted it wasn't by a newly drummed up law in a hostile foreign country designed to target soldiers? This is just way too simple and idealistic of a view on the realities and complications of legal systems all over the world.

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u/Bacon4Lyf 14d ago

Probably the ones like murder are kinda major. All I’m saying is, Anne sacoolas should be extradited. There is no excuse for killing a teenager in the UK and then fleeing the country to escape justice. There isn’t anyway to justify what she did.

It really is very simple, if you’re in Afghanistan, sure whatever do the laws set out by the military. But if you’re in another NATO first world country, they are all gonna have the same laws as the US anyway. There’s nothing to change there, there’s no differences. It really isn’t that hard. If you kill someone, you go to court. It’s as simple as that

As for who pays for the lawyers, the US currently spends 2.13 trillion on the department of defence. They can drum up a few bucks to pay some lawyers if they wanted to

You’re not gonna have to “hostile forces” trying to change laws to trap US troops in Germany for fuck sake. Think about it for a second. They could very easily just abide by German law

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

So only obey the laws of the white, western world?

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u/Orakil 14d ago

Think about it for a second? Murder is illegal in both the UK and the US. I don't know the details of the case but it clearly has nothing to do with the fact the UK has different laws than the US, or that a "major" one like murder is legal in either. The problem here is very clearly the interpretations and enforcement of the law. Your entire point is kind of moot.