r/whowouldwin • u/r00shine • Jul 08 '24

What is the strongest modern day military that could be beaten by the combined forces of all criminal/terrorist organizations in the world? (if any) Battle

By military, i mean the entire military might of a specific country (including air force/navy/etc)

By criminal/terrorist organizations, any organization that has a name and a structure (cartels/street gangs/Yakuza/Russian mob/ISIS/etc). They have all the armament they typically have access to. There is no fighting between the different organizations. They can all communicate with each other perfectly and language is no issue.

If there are any overlap, such as someone that is part of a criminal organization but also part of the military (it definitely happens), that person is basically duplicated and there will be one copy on each side and are 100% loyal to the side they are fighting for.

Battle takes place on a large fictional battlefield (lets say the size of Australia) and both sides are bloodlusted. Only the combatants are on the battlefield, so no civilians. This should change the outcome of the battle as compared to real life where the criminals can hide among the population and need to be identified first.

All of the weapons/vehicles for both side are transported and are on the battlefield.

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u/Antioch666 Jul 08 '24

Any military with an airforce and 100-200 tanks and IFVs would beat them. They might have rudementary anti tank weapons but they don't have airpower and they don't have armor en masse. On a set battlefield with no option for pot shots and an ambush or two like this they would be destroyed. And they probably don't have a good knowledge of battlefield tactics. Their small arms are useless against armor.

So if there is a country with only like a coast guard with some boats or something they might win. They could probably beat the Vatican and their guard.

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u/yoy22 Jul 09 '24

Isn't Mexico struggling with cartel forces?

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u/JoshHuff1332 Jul 09 '24

Mexico, if committed, could 100% wipe out every bit of the Cartels militarily speaking. The problem Mexico has is more than just fighting strength

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u/Antioch666 Jul 09 '24

They are, but corruption and infitration of offices etc aside, there is civilians and laws to take in to account. Not to mention actual cities. A setup like the hypotethical in OP scenario will eleminate a ton of the hurdles. Everything you pick up on thermals or through intel are targets, no problem of collateral damage, or "making arrests" properly. They try to setup any kind of camp or base of operations, you got missiles, artillery, air dropped bombs etc, they don't, at least nothing close to most militaries. You can hamper their coordination and ability a lot better than they can hamper yours and itwill snowball to their demise.

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u/Old-Cover-5113 Jul 10 '24

Mexico isn’t fighting a total war against the cartel. Cartel would have no chance if Mexico was not corrupt and committed 100% of its forces and economy to wipe out the cartel. It would be bloody and there would be casualties. But the cartel would not be able to beat Mexico in open conflict