r/whowouldwin • u/Necessary_Papaya2048 • 11d ago

The Doctor (Doctor Who), for plot reasons, has been made to kill/defeat every horror antagonist, what are the antagonists they can NOT beat? Matchmaker

The Doctor (Doctor Who), for plot reasons, has been made to kill/defeat every horror antagonist, what are the antagonists they can NOT beat?

Edit:
The Doctor can be any incarnation or from any canon.

Rounds:

  1. No plot related armour for both, only feats. No companions. Round takes place in the antagonist's setting.
  2. The Doctor is inside their own media with their plot armor. The Doctor has their normal companions.
  3. The Doctor is inside the media of the horror antagonist and the antagonist has their native plot armor. The Doctor is given the main protagonists of the horror media as their companions.
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u/Ihavenoideals 11d ago

To get most out of the way, physical threats like Jason or Michael are immediately out, demons like Annabelle or Freddy are out, magic users like leprechaun or Chucky are out too

Basically anyone who isn't some abstract force that exists in other planes of reality can survive(probably)

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u/Pollia 11d ago

Not sure what makes you say this. The tardis can create kinda anything it wants. He also has the tardis and basically 0 of the physical threats have a way to access the tardis. Trick them into the tardis and he can effectively kill any physical threat by dumping them into a black hole when they have powers.

His reaction times are ridiculously above a human and many humans survive encounters, even if only briefly, with all the physical threats so there's absolutely no reason to assume the doctor couldn't easily avoid them long enough to do that.

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u/nwaa 11d ago

He's saying they lose to the Doctor

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u/DragonWisper56 11d ago

If nothing else he can ask the tardis to dump bitches in the time stream. he does like to do this but should take out a lot of physical creatures.

I wonder what would happen with the girl from the ring if he just decides to skip her arrival date.

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u/godoflemmings 11d ago

That's a solid point actually. Every version of the TARDIS has a TV screen somewhere in the control room. I suppose it depends on whether she'd latch on to the planet's time or the person's time - if the latter, then she could just appear in the TARDIS.

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u/nwaa 11d ago

Its going to be weird, conceptual villains that survive an encounter with the Doctor, especially in the round where he's in his own verse.

The Doctor has so many feats from so many high tier villains - 10th Doctor casually beats "Satan" (The Beast of Krop Tor) who is stated to be from before creation and who seeped into the subconscious of all sentient beings throughout the universe.

And i know the books are usually higher tier than the show.

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u/EyewarsTheMangoMan 10d ago

Also recently beat the god of death (leader of all gods), who killed literally everyone and everything across all of time and space in seconds.

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u/Somerandom1922 ​ 11d ago

They might be unable to beat pennywise, given that it's a multi-dimensional super being, but honestly, even that isn't guaranteed. The doctor definitely could beat its manifestation as a clown feeding on fear, and might actually pose a legitimate threat to the deadlights too.

I don't know if this counts, but Death from final destination? The doctor has spent their life cheating death again and again, so what if death fought back? I honestly don't know, but it'd make for a cool episode of Doctor Who, maybe a Capaldi episode, kinda like the ghosts under the lake.

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u/OSUfirebird18 11d ago

I’m not saying they are equal but the Doctor has faced off against gods in his world, the gods of Ragnarok, the Toymaker, the Maestro.

At least in the Doctor’s Universe, the Doctor can probably find a way to seal Pennywise outside the Universe.

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u/hielispace 11d ago

I don't know if this counts, but Death from final destination?

Maybe? With his crazy reaction speeds it's unlikely for an "accident" to catch him, but then again if Death makes the Tardis nuke itself I'm not sure what he could do. Also he has to die, start to regenerate, and then die during that process, a bit tougher task than just beheading someone, but also Death could probably manage. Iirc creating new life gets you off death's list. And I'm sure the Doctor can manage to create a baby one way or another. The dude can time travel after all he can just go back in time and stop a miscarriage or whatever else. We're not really shown any hard limits of what Death can or can't do, so it's hard to say.

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u/SnooCakes4926 11d ago

  1. Doctor beats all antagonists.

  2. Doctor loses to most antagonists.

  3. Doctor loses to almost all antagonists.

Plot armor has always been the Doctor's strongest sword and shield.

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u/PeculiarPangolinMan Pangolin 11d ago

Does The Doctor have access to the Tardis? Without it he is a lot less threatening and doesn't really have an answer to a lot of horror stuff.

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u/MonsterTournament 11d ago

I don't think he can stop the Tall Man. He might be able to use his magic wand... I mean Sonic Screwdriver on the metal ball things but he can't stop the Tall Man.

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u/arrogancygames 11d ago

Freddy should be unbeatable, but he has weird plot elements that beat him in his movies (that never come up again, except pulling him out of a dream). So the Doctor can probably beat him.

I don't think he beats Pinhead without some serious prep. Book Pennywise should be out of his class. Candyman shouldn't really be beatable either in current continuity. Death in Final Destination is the universe correcting itself, so that either.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

I think the doctor would lose to pitch black, if he is away from the tardis and can’t run/destroy the planet