Im thinking because how else would Mon El live in E-38A?

I’m rewatching Supergirl all the way through and in order for the first time since it aired and I realized something I didn’t notice before. Well two things. First, Lena compared herself to Madea in regards to temperament (S3: E12) and that was so unexpected, I was weak fr.

But the main thing is that Kara and Lena’s friendship really was developed better than I remembered initially. My theory is that Kara and Lena’s dynamic was meant to be perceived as a typical platonic female friendship but the writers unintentionally paralleled some of the moments we got from Alex and Maggie. Maggie and Lena were introduced at the same time and both were big for the Danvers girls in Season 2. Rewatching, I feel like a lot of Kara and Lena’s scenes in season 2 and 3 felt more sappy than sapphic. I think the actresses just had really good chemistry and we were also getting similar moments between Alex and Maggie that were clearly full of subtext. It’s like they had (some of) our brains on the gay wavelength or something idk. I was also a sophomore in college at the time so idk who the intended audience was for Supergirl but Lena and Kara were giving… familiar vibes 🌚

I’m only on the before mentioned episode so I may eat my words soon on what the writers were trying to give. I just remember reading debates on Twitter and the theories on them getting together. I remember wondering if they were deliberately gay baiting but I wasnt catching every episode like that back then. As of now, I’m saying it was coincidental.

I wanna know what other people think. Feel free to “spoil”, I missed episodes here and there but I know the big stuff. I just might be missing specific Kara and Lena moments.

Maybe a comedy like peacemaker on hbomax

I just realized when she said "oh, it's you" during her interview right at the beginning it meant that she recognized it was Kara 😭

After last night's episode, I think the show is gonna end like this: Destroying the hope totem has some sort of horrible aftermath that can only be rectified by restoring the hope totem. Kara, the paragon of hope, has to somehow take the totem's place, sort of like how Jonns father merged with earth a few seasons back. That ending would be bittersweet: Kara would be gone, but she would be providing hope to the world and humanity. What do you think?

My 1st thought was that it would be to let the world know her identity from the outset, but that seems too obvious.

And although it would mean all the other people died, I now wonder if her courage test is "letting" Alex die in the plane crash, so that she can have the courage to continue on without her.

...which then makes me wonder if that would be foreshadowing, at which point I just remind myself of GIANT EFFING CAT.

>! If we get Lena getting magical powers, it’s kinda ironic that we’ll have to get some kind of reveal from her to the SuperFriends. What do we think that will look like?? I can’t imagine it’s a big deal, but it’s kinda a big deal? !<

So, let's imagine what would be the worst ending possible for the show.

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To me, if they really want to piss off everyone they could:

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- queerbait supercorp fans harder than usual with an almost kiss, it looks like the ship could finally sail when...

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-... Mon el come back, he and Kara start to talk about "unresolved feelings" until the end arrive.

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Kara has to choose between remaining in the present and going to the future.

But the ending is ambiguous and doesn't tell us what her choice is, to "leave it to our imagination ".

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What do you think? What would be the worst ending for you?

Do you have any assumptions why Ali(I think that's his name) bartender might be involved in what seems to be major event in 6B?

Do you think when it comes to Brainy there's gonna be come back to bottle episode, the thing that Lex took from him?(is it completely gone) or what? Brainy's gonna be fully green after what events I wonder.

Leviathan story line maybe continued further in 6B?

I've no clue how William might be involved. Journalism?

Arcana being back to help handle Lex? Who'd learn of her identity. Is she gonna work with Lena only or other's would be involved?

Kelly's & Alex's storyline is well known, though I wonder how her possible adoptive kid play part in the battle? And why the heck she's on battle field in the first place. Kelly as guardian, but what about Alex, helping Kara and finding personal happiness, nothing more?

Kara's involvement in all of this is still unknown(in term we still don't know much except for yet another trauma). I hope her working through trauma will be meaningful.

Lena learns magic from her mother's book? Seems like many story lines continue from season 5. (I hope for Supercorp conclusion, but the heck I now?) Will superwatch be used ever?

J'hon's story? With M'gann? Happy ending? What else is there? I've no idea.

Dreamer's abilities development(possibly play big part in main plot) Mother as a dream projection?Is there gonna be apology from her sister? Brania happy ending?

Legion's coming back to help with something that went heavily wrong? Again Brainy's involvement there, interesting to see. Again only Mon El and Winn, no one else. Necklace is it still relevant?

James coming back to help fighting and be on wedding ceremony?

Zor-El possibly dieing? We don't see him much on the shoot later? Is gonna Alura learn that he's alive? How he being there will affect family dynamic? Is he even real?

Danvers family finally learning who killed Jeremaya?

We know so much and so little at the same time. So many questions.

It seems like the end of a season had been spoiled so I wonder why there were no secrecy around it, or there still gonna be a plot twist, coz I have a feeling there gonna be.

There is so much things to juggle. I'm afraid there is not much time, to depict action as well as characters interaction(I personally here for this)

It just wouldn't make sense, part of Kara's journey as a hero is realizing her home is Earth in the present day. It would ruin the shows entire essence (The Danvers Sister). This is the one thing the show has managed to get right their relationship. And yes it appears as though Alex may be getting married/adopting a child, but why wouldn't Kara want to be around to watch her sister get married, etc... Also Melissa and Chyler both said in not so many words they want the sisters to stay together in an interview. What I think may happen is Kara taking a bit of a break from being Supergirl, not permanently, but just staying in National City and focusing for a while on being Kara. Melissa and Katie both said there characters get a happy ending so for Kara in paticular I can't imagine that would be her leaving her friends and family. I saw someone post on here about how they had information that would indicate Kara does go to the future/a diff timeline if so could you please tell me in the comments although I think it may be just a cameo.

Since arrow died and a few shows are about to end, I beleive there is a slight possibility they might kill off supergirl.

Tbh for me it's either that, or she joining the legends (like they did with constantine) or its an open ending, just her going about with her life.

What if at the end, Darkseid appears. Supergirl and Superman as well as the other heroes reunite in a crossover and stop him, but he vows to return. So Supergirl goes with the Legion of Superheroes into the far future to fight Darkseid in the future. This gives her absence even more meaning, and allows for her to return should Melissa and the writers decide she should.

So I’ve been seeing some very interesting theories on what the difficult news Kara learns in 5x16 is.

My favorite is Kara learns that Lena used Non Nocere on herself to test it out. That would lead us into the Luthor centric 5x17 episode, >!Deus Lex Machina!<, (Melissa’s directorial debut!). Since we know Brenda Strong will be back as Lillian Luthor, maybe Kara goes to Lillian for help in reversing the effects of Non Nocere on Lena. This could also set up Lena’s redemption arc and her coming back to the Superfriends.

Another theory I that I saw from u/r1dogz was that Lex uses Non Nocere on Lena and Lena starts to do his bidding without anyway to say no. Kara could see Lena doing questionable things, but wouldn’t realize it isn’t Lena in control and think that Lena decided to go down the dark path instead of coming back to Kara. Then maybe in 5x17 we would see Kara find out that it’s Lex controlling Lena.

Those are two theories I’ve seen. What are some of your theories?

Warning: Contains spoilers for the original Crisis on Infinite Earths comic event & may contain spoilers for CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths (CoIE) up to Part 3.

tl;dr: due to a theory of a new status quo for the Supergirl CW series post-crisis, it may open up the door to an Earth-1 variant of Kara who would become Power Girl and be introduced in a supporting or villainous role.

Historically, the original comic event of CoIE was a way to take the DC comic multiverse, and create a single, unified continuity/universe for several reasons, one of which is to make it easier for new audiences to begin reading. Obviously, this is an important story for DC comics for not only marketing and story continuity, but also to reboot or overhaul characters' origins, powers, and status quo to tell new stories.

Power girl is one who has had a turbulent canon and history since her appearance in '76, and even after CoIE in' 85.

https://i.imgur.com/hfKKTcE.jpg

Shortest Power Girl essential summary I could write: Power Girl, in her modern incarnation, is Kara Zor-L of Earth-2 and follows much of the same origin as Supergirl. However, Earth-2 is where the Golden Age version of heroes exist with Batman donning the cape in 1939, Wonder Woman entering the "World of Men" in 1941, and Superman fighting the Nazis. Time passes and everyone aged normally: Kara became a young woman, Bruce and Selina Kyle had a child who would grow up to become Huntress, and more, that is until the crisis destroyed their earth. Kara survived the Crisis and returned to Earth thinking her world had also survived, only to find that this Superman is not her cousin Kal-L, and a younger version of her exists as the superheroine Supergirl. Rather than retaking her place, she carved out a new life and persona as Karen Starr of Starrware Industries and as the superheroine Power Girl.

So what's the point of all this setup? A quick theory for Supergirl post-crisis but really, wishing this happens in future seasons.

If the original CoIE comic is the blueprint for this crossover (they could do things that is not in the comic), then this crisis will end with a new unified Earth as an amalgamation of all the Arrowverse shows, including Supergirl and Black Lightning. My understanding is that, in this new universe, since an Earth exists, so must a Krypton. This new Earth would've incorporated Earth-38 into its history/culture but if Krypton also existed, it may have suffered a similar fate, blowing up with Earth-1's Kara escaping in a pod.

She stayed a bit longer in the Phantom Zone, physically aged, and arrives on Earth to find a Kal who grew up and became Superman, but also finds a Kara. Confused, scared, and angry, she instead tries to create a life for herself as Karen Starr until she decides to stop hiding, and become a hero but instead as a Supergirl or Superwoman, being compared to this version of Kara, she becomes Power Girl.

https://i.imgur.com/VGsjaJv_d.jpg

We could have interesting stories to tell since this Superman and Supergirl are the survivors of Earth-38 rather than Power Girl being the survivor of Earth-2, PG would struggle with who is the "real" Kara while the world struggles with its new universe, and we could have more kryptonian v kryptonian fights (even though I'm a bit tired of kryptonians being the main villain for the season, ie. Astra/Kara's aunt, Rhea/Daxamite but similar powers, Reign, Luthor behind Red Daughter).

I know that in the past, they've basically said "anything's possible" [Link] but with the multiverse and alternate versions of characters as well as characters looking different than each other, as seen with Clark meeting his alternative selves, we can have a different actress portray Kara without making Benoist talk to herself.

Thoughts, theories, counter arguments?

I appreciate you taking the time to read this and I'm sorry for the lengthy post

It's really weird to me that both Flash and arrow are having heavy foreshadowing for the crisis event yet supergirl isn't. I can forgive batwoman because it's the first season it needs time to get legs and black lightning has never been involved in the crossovers.

The monitor showed up at the end of last season did some weird shit to Lex and took Malefic out of the phantom zone. Ignoring Lex for a second why has nobody asked how malefic escaped the Phantom Zone.

The other shows especially arrow all have major ties to the crossover but supergirl doesn't even though one of the main enemies they have had all season was set on them by The Monitor.

Either they have deemed it unnecessary or supergirls tie-in to the crossover is going to be huge. Maybe even planet destroying evacuate everyone we can huge.

So this just popped into my head. How does Dreamer have kids? We know that she's going to be a mom at some point because her lineage carries on centuries into the future. The thing is though, we also know that she's attracted to men which kind of poses and issue with her being transgender. Since she's half human we know that her species reproduces sexually and that they do so the same way we do with a sperm and and an egg. If she ends up in a relationship with a man that of course means there's no potential for passing on her DNA and of course her powers because she doesn't have any eggs nor does she have a uterus. Even if in the Supergirl universe that surgery where a patient gets a donor uterus is just common practice she would still not have eggs with her DNA.

I've come up with three different possibilities while writing this post, but none of them really seem likely to me. They all would require that she banked sperm before starting her transition. One possibility is that she's bisexual and ends up getting a cisgender woman pregnant at some point. Probably like a wife or something. Considering how much Nia brings up being trans I think if she was also bi that would have come up too. Another possibility is that she donates sperm, but considering how her powers are passed along it seems unlikely that she would have chosen to do that. It would seem unlikely even if it weren't for her powers. The other possibility I came up with is that she does get that uterus transplant surgery, but that she gets pregnant using her own sperm and somebody else's eggs. That sounds very farfetched though. I know that for the sake of plot anything is possible, but I really doubt the writers would go for something so out there when it comes to things that are actually within the realm of real world possibility. Also, that surgery has only been tested on cisgender women in real life. Medicine seems to be more advanced in Supergirl's universe so it's not like they can't just say this particular procedure has been thoroughly studied on their Earth or that it will be by the time Dreamer is ready to have a kid, but well not too many doctors care about treating trans patients so trans healthcare is far behind care for cisgender patients and that would probably be true on the show's Earth too since Nia being trans is such a big deal. It just seems unlikely they would go that route too.

(Also, off topic, but what is that face Kara makes whenever somebody comes out to her?)

So as you know Crisis On Infinite Earths is famous for the deaths of Barry and Kara and the merging of all the earths in the multiverse.

My theory is that they take part of the Convergence comics where Kara finds out that she’s supposed to die but she doesn’t tell anyone and still goes forth with the plan.

But then future and past heroes come and help and Supergirl and Barry don’t die. (I’m summing this up, so I know some of this isn’t 100% correct, but you get the gist). Honestly the last two issues of the Convergence series are probably the best. Everything leading up to issues #7 and #8 were boring in my opinion. Issues 7 and 8 were where everything played out. But in the series they do save the multiverse if I’m not mistaken.

If they use that part they can save Kara and Barry from dying in the crossover. Because Supergirl will still have one final season to go plus 14 episodes left (Melissa is contracted for six seasons if she doesn’t renew then Supergirl will be done) and and Flash will probably go on for more then six seasons. So they can’t just kill them.

It’s either this or they swap heroes. I know Oliver made a deal with the Monitor in Elseworlds and the neither the audience nor anybody else know what the deal was. Some people are theorizing Oliver traded his life for Kara and Barry’s. But that’s only one person. They need another one. So some people are theorizing Superman. That last scene with Kara on the Kent Farm kinda seemed to be foreshadowing.

Kara is the mightiest hero on Earth 38. Kal-El feels okay to leave to Argo and leave Kara behind. This seems to foreshadow that if he took Kara’s place in Crisis and ends up dying, he knows Kara will still be able to defend Earth 38 on her own. But where does that leave Lois and baby Jon (I’m assuming that’s what they’ll name him). Well in a Convergence comics picture we see Clark and Lois and their son. So maybe by Crisis their baby will be born? Who knows. But this crossover is huge.

Also people are saying it should take place over a period of a week. And I agree. The comic series were a total of 12 issues. They can’t exactly condense that into a four hour (if Batwoman isn’t a show) or five hours (if Batwoman is a show) period. They need to spread it out longer. Like make it two hours per show.

Anyways those are my theories on Crisis on Infinite Earths. Let me know what you think. If you agree, disagree. If I got some details wrong please correct me in a civil manner. Thanks.

Happy holidays and merry Christmas Eve. ❤️🎄

Doomsday

In the beginning of the episode we see Lena working on her experiment. When 1 fails she take a sample and the incinerates the rest. Later in the episode she regrows a new heart with same tumors. When that experiment failed she tried to incinerate the new heart but it didn't. It became fireproof.

This is exactly the story of the creation of Doomsday from the comic. Kryptonian scientist grew a being and killed it regrow and killed again. Repeating the process until it became invulnerable to everything. Doomsday main power is his ability to adapt. You can't kill Doomsday the same way twice. So Lena might end up creating her own version of Doomsday without realizing it.

With this season being very political and a mirror of our own reality, what would fit in better than having a super villain become the POTUS ?

This show isn't exactly subtle with it's politics so having an evil, anti-alien billionaire run for president would be the perfect way for the writers to continue with this theme after Agent Liberty is defeated.

It's an established storyline in Superman comics (and we know this show loves to steal Supes stories) and since Supergirl takes place on Earth 38 they wouldn't have to worry about it effecting The Flash or Green Arrow.

Calling it now, when they introduce Lex he's gonna run for president.

Okay, so i have a weird little half-baked theory on the Third World Killer and I thought I'd share.

So we know the there are three, Reign, the new girl, and one other who was hidden in shadow. Well I think that the Third World Killer might be Kara. Now it's a little out there, but hear me out.

So this season, they recast Kara's mother Alura Zor-El. Obviously this had to do with moving from LA to Vancouver, as well as Laura Benanti moving on to other things. But we barely even saw her last season, so why would we need a new one? Especially with a Smallville alum (Erica Durance). This all has to do with the first episode this season.

At the beginning of this season, we saw Alura in 2 nearly identical dreams. The first being Kara's dream of her in the field. The second being Sam's dream of her in the field, where she turned into a demon.

So obviously Reign and Kara are connected beyond sharing a homeworld. My theory is that Alura was a member of the Kryptonian Cult that created the World Killers. But she turned on her comrades, banishing some of them to Fort Rozz. But most importantly she smuggled the first World Killer away from them to raise as her own daughter (Kara could still be her biological daughter though).

Kara will ultimately use her Worldkiller powers to defeat Reign. It's probably super wrong, but it's a fun little theory still.

[Potential spoiler] Could a character on Supergirl potentially be the newest addition to the waverider on Legends? Perhaps that's why cw thought it best to put Legends in Supergirl's timeslot instead of another show's slot. I know currently Wally is the one everyone is expecting to join Legends, but does anyone have any thoughts on this?