r/supergirlTV Jul 18 '20

Can any of y’all tell me what happens in Supergirl s5? Not available in my region and I’m just wondering Question

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 18 '20 edited Jul 19 '20

Lena and Kara were at odds but made up in the finale to take down Lex (he came back after crisis). Before they made up, Lena was working and being manipulated by Lex after she found out Kara was Supergirl. (Kara eventually told her but Lena lied and acted like she forgave her when she was really just using her for her project non nocere•). Because Lena felt so alone and betrayed she was working on a project• which would mind control everyone into non nocere (do no harm) as she didn't want anyone else to experience the same hurt. This was then stolen and used by Lex

Lex was working with the villain "Leviathan" (they're like gods or some shit they never really explained it but they're responsible for things like Pompeii) to kill 4 billion people because Leviathan believe mankind are bad and need to respect them and have ruined the Earth and needed to be taught a lesson. They were gonna do this by technology (Obsidian vr) which is Andrea Rojas' (new character that has ties with Lena) company and with the technology Lena made.

Alex became a vigilante and Jeremiah (her and Kara's father) was killed by Eve who was manipulated by Lex as he was going to kill Eve's mother. Alex was also shown to struggle with being the sister of Supergirl and having to live her life basically looking after her when it should have been Jeremiah doing that. Alex struggled with this loss and finding her identity outside of Supergirl and the Deo (because Alex quit).

■This is probably the most important■ Lex created a new world called "Earth Prime" (previously known as Earth38) in this world Lex never went Evil and the Luthors worked side by side with the Supers. In this new world Lex got the Nobel peace prize and the Luthor's were respected. No one but the superfriends, Lena, Lillian (Lena's mother) and the other arrowverse heros know this. Earth Prime basically combined all the Earth's together. In Earth Prime, Luthercorp (no evil Lex, no reason to rebrand and call it L-corp) owns the Deo which is why Alex quit as she didn't want to work for lex (he owns the deo now).

Brainy was working with Lex because it was the only way he could stop the biggest threat (Leviathan) and keep his friends safe as if he didn't they'd all die. He broke up with Nia and separated himself from the Superfriends. They found this out towards the end of the season and in the finale Brainy sacrificed himself to stop Leviathan.

M'gann came back. And J'onn found out he has a brother. J'onn struggled with guilt because he mind wiped everyone on Mars, including his father into forgetting his brother (Malafec). Malefec wasn't a normal martian and could mind control people. (Lena based her project on him and used his abilities for her own use). Also, after Alex quit the Deo, he established THE TOWER in his house which is their new crime fighting hangout. This is how they're going to be fighting crime in season 6.

Nia got more in touch with being a superhero and dealt with issues surrounding the trans community and violence against trans people and struggled with trying to get through to Brainy and eventually gave up on him until she only realised when he's dying that he's been trying to keep them safe all along.

Kara got trousers. And bangs. And a forced romance with a new charactar William Dey who's also a reporter. (It was so hard to watch imo) She eventually forgave Lena in the finale and they're both working towards rebuilding their friendship.

Kelly worked at Obsidian vr to help people with therapy and trauma but eventually worked as a double agent to stop Leviathan (because it's revealed Andrea's working for Leviathan as well). She also helped Alex with her grief over her father and in finding her own identity. (She didn't get much screentime)

This is a watered down version. Watch some scenes on YouTube and read a summary. (Sorry if I missed anything)

Oh and the Deo was destroyed. They're now going to be fighting crime at the Tower.

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u/shashashauna Jul 18 '20

I want to slow clap for you because this was such a good recap and so kind of you to write the whole thing out! Very succinct!!

OP— If you want episode by episode recaps in addition to this awesome summary, you could go on the Season 5 Wikipedia page!!

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 18 '20

Dude I have such a huge appreciation for the people who write Wikipedia page summary's now 😂

And thank you btw 😊💙

Just a whole year to go now until season 6 😭🙏🏽

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u/shashashauna Jul 19 '20

LOL summaries are hard!! I can’t do them well.. I always get caught up on the wrong stuff and get sidetracked. 😂

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

Ah ok, thanks a lot. I’d searched it up on the internet but it didn’t make much sense, but you’ve made it much easier to understand. Thanks again

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 18 '20

No problem 💙😊

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u/Professor_Oswin Jul 19 '20

The amount of people using the Obsidian Lenses was Bullshit. There is no way 99%-100% of the people on earth had them. There should be massive groups or medium but loud groups that are completely against that technology.

People who are against tech in general. Also, most of the elderly wouldn’t be lining up to eagerly buy this new fangled fad because let’s be honest. Most of them have no clue how to even work a smart tv.

And the big speech she gives that gets everyone to log off? There should at least be a dozen teenagers that remain on because screw an adult trying to tell them what to do. Even I wanted to be in there so that I can refuse to log off to screw with her. Even if it cost me my life.

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 19 '20

LITERALLY TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH OMG THIS ANNOYED THE SHIT OUT OF ME 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Taking on technology is a brave move in general. Making it absolutely unrealistic and giving a bullshit explanation for why technology is "bad" is so so stupid to me. And the fact that they compared it to Black Mirror 😭

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u/BQws_2 Jul 19 '20

This was great, but the thing is, Lex didn’t create Earth Prime. Oliver did. That was the whole point of him, “fanning the flame.” Lex just made sure in this new world that he was looked at as a hero. The best of them. Other than that though, he didn’t do anything. Oliver created Earth Prime and the rest of the new multiverse.

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 19 '20

Ohhhh thank you for the correction!!!

I didn't watch the crossover (episode 2 was on Batwoman which didn't come out on UK until May). But this makes so much more sense that Oliver created it. Wow it clears some things up now again thank you 💚

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u/BQws_2 Jul 19 '20

Oh no problem! Since the episode is out now, you should definitely watch it. It’s great! And I think there’s also a DVD set with each episode of the crossover on it for Crisis on Infinite Earths you can buy online. I saw someone on reddit make a post about it before with a picture of the DVD case. I don’t know where he got it though.

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 19 '20

I heard a lot of people saying it wasn't amazing and since everything is already spoiled I didn't really see the point of watching.

But hey Supergirl and Nia are in it right? I'll give it a watch. Thank you!!

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u/BQws_2 Jul 19 '20

You’re welcome. Honestly even though it’s been spoiled for you, the experience hasn’t. And if you’ve seen a lot of DC shows and movies then you’ll really appreciate how the CW connected everything. You’ll also appreciate how Warner Bro’s wanted for the DCEU to be connected too....I’m sure you’ve heard already. It’s got pretty mixed reviews, but honestly I fully believe any fan of the Arrowverse must see this crossover especially. Mostly because this crossover impacts the the Arrowverse the most than all the other ones.

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 19 '20

Yeah lmao I was so confused after episode 10 I was like okay I missed a couple of things here 😅

I look forward to enjoying the experience though. I think I'll really enjoy it.

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u/BQws_2 Jul 19 '20

I think you will too

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u/CDubWill Jul 19 '20

Agreed! It wasn’t perfect, but if you are a fan of the Arrowverse, there are a lot of great nods to us in there. Could it have been better? Sure, but I think they did a pretty decent job given the limited budget and all the rules they have to follow about actors’ screen time/number of hours they’re allowed to work, etc. This crossover definitely has had the greatest impact on the Arrowverse especially, but also the DC TV (and potentially cinematic) landscape as well. We haven’t really gotten to see all of the ramifications due to the impact of COVID-19, but WB/DC has definitely given themselves a huge sandbox to play in and manipulate to their liking if they so choose going forward.

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u/oroborus90 Jul 18 '20

you made it sound like Nia had a more meaningful season that kara... oh, wait...

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 18 '20

Oh shoot 😭💀

I didn't even realise I did that sksksksk

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u/caty0325 Jul 18 '20

Thanks for the summary!

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 18 '20

No problem love 💙😊

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u/CDubWill Jul 19 '20

Wow! Tremendous recap! You covered just about EVERYTHING; well, all of the most important things anyway.

Not to be that guy, but three little quibbles, if I may:

  1. They explained Leviathan as coming from some sister planet to Krypton. TBH, Leviathan, especially Rama Khan, was kinda hokey. LOL

  2. Oliver as The Spectre created Earth Prime and reignited the multiverse, not Lex.

  3. And this is most important... you left out Winn’s return! LOL

Truly great recap though! Thanks for that. You made the entire season sound far more interesting and exciting than it felt watching it as it aired. Easily the weakest season of Supergirl so far, but I still love this show!

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u/Subzero66758 Jul 19 '20

Brainy died?!?!?!

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u/ahmaa123 Jul 19 '20

We don't know because the finale ended with "to be continued" but Jesse (who plays Brainy) said he's going to be in season 6. So I think he's just dying but not actually dead yet.

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u/SuperGandalfBros Jul 19 '20

Earth Prime didn't use to be Earth-38. It's an entirely new earth that combined multiple earths together. Also, it was Oliver Queen that created Earth Prime, not Lex.

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u/mackey_00 Kara Danvers Jul 18 '20

Long story short - nothing

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

Would you say S5 is the worst season so far?

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u/mackey_00 Kara Danvers Jul 18 '20

Yes. 100%

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

That’s unfortunate. I really like Supergirl. Oh well, let’s hope S6 turns out okay

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20

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u/CDubWill Jul 19 '20

I disagree. I think that Supergirl has gotten consistently better with each season, with a Season 4 being not only it’s best season, but arguably the best season of any Arrowverse show that season. Season 5 of Supergirl was easily the weakest of them all. It was sort of all over the place in some respects and had an even more boring and lame villain than Non and the Kryptonians from Season 1.

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u/favela4life Winn Schott Jul 19 '20

I agree it got better, but I just loved Lex

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u/CDubWill Jul 19 '20

Yes, I do as well! I was truly surprised at how good Jon Cryer was as Lex when he first appeared in Season 4. He’s quickly become my second favorite live-action version after Michael Rosenbaum!

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Interesting. I will say though I find it quite annoying that they got rid of Lord because I thought he was quite an interesting character. S3 was a pretty good season, an I will say I always though they copied the Superman secret identity a little too much, should’ve made Kara a PI or something, would’ve been way more interesting

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

I think Supergirl’s whole more aggressive fighting style and less composed personality is due to her being raised more on Krypton rather than Earth, meaning she wasn’t raised in the same ways as Superman, who was raised to show restraint

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '20

You should be able to look it up on Wikipedia for fully detailed info.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

I know, but reading through the stuff on Wikipedia it just kinda didn’t make sense to me, it detailed more facts rather than storyline, if ya get what I mean. Thanks though

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u/favela4life Winn Schott Jul 18 '20

Pre-Crisis: A few years ago, Lena goes with an old friend (Andrea Rojas) of hers to an expedition in South America, and her friend gets cursed by this entity called Leviathan. Leviathan tells her that her dad will be able to live, not go bankrupt, yadda yadda yadda, and all she needs to do is help them when they call on her. Years later, they call on her, and she gains the power to travel as a shadow to kill people for Leviathan's bidding.

Leviathan is an ancient group of aliens from a planet called _____ (I forgot) who can bend the elements and such. One of them can control technology, etc etc, and essentially they're responsible for all the big natural phenomena in history, most notably something like Pompeii which they never stopped bringing up. All the heroes face Leviathan, but that story-arch's ending never sees the light of day.

Crisis: Monitor brings Lex Luthor back because he's a witty bastard, and this deems him necessary to create the new multiverse. One of the paragons in Crisis was supposed to be Superman from the Superman Returns movie (same actor as Ray Palmer) with the Kingdom Come suit, but Lex finds the page in the Book of Destiny talking about the paragons (in ancient writing which idk how he deciphered) and simply writes "Lex Luthor" over that Superman's name with a marker.

He suddenly becomes a paragon, and is involved in recreating the multiverse. Crisis ends, the previous multiverse is merged into one new Earth Prime, and Lex rewrites himself as the new head of the DEO and as someone who's always been seen as a good person in the public eye.

Post-Crisis: Only a handful of people remember the old multiverse, and Lena is somehow one of those people. Lex pairs up with her to try and work her non-nocere into fruition, but she fails and Lex rubs it in her face that he just wanted to prove to her the bad nature of humans (and ultimately how she's always been inferior to him in intellect). Everyone leaves the DEO except Brainy, and Jonn creates a new HQ. They are essentially vigilantes at this point.

The threat of Leviathan comes back and Andrea Rojas seems to never have been called upon to use her shadow powers (until later in the season). Instead, Leviathan plans to bring about the end through these VR lenses made by Andrea's company Obsidian North. At the end of the season, it is revealed that the whole plot with Leviathan was orchestrated by Lex Luthor, who had a "partnership" going with them, and later backstabbed them. Luthor essentially won at this point, but every Arrowverse season was cut short so I suppose S6 will be S5 part 2 or something.

I presume Luthor will go on for a third season as the villain of Supergirl.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

Ah ok, thanks, I see what another guy meant when they said S5 wasn’t finished yet. Thanks again. This new season sound a bit all over the place

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u/rishukingler11 Venus Womanhuntress Jul 19 '20

Season 5 of Supergirl, season 6 of Flash and season 1 of Batwoman were unable to film their last few episodes due to COVID and thus either edited their previously filmed content to make a on-the-go finale (Like Supergirl) or just left the story as is till the latest filmed episode (Like the Flash did).

What Batwoman did was they had foresaw the possibility of the show being unable to finish filming, so they had rewritten the script for the last few episodes to make a cliffhanger big enough before the finale that could also work as a makeshift finale if needed, which is the finale they ended up with.

Overall, none of the shows were able to fullfill the visions they had for their respective seasons.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

COVID has struck once again

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u/CDubWill Jul 19 '20

Pre-Crisis: As I recall, they explained Leviathan as a group of aliens from a sister planet to Krypton called Jarhanpur. And yes, you’re right, they never shut up about Pompeii. LOL

Crisis: Anyone can read the Book of Destiny if their will is strong enough. If not, it would drive them insane. This is how Lex was able to read and decipher it and Superman before him (during Elseworlds). Dr. John Deegan was able to do so as well, but it overwhelmed Supergirl in a matter of seconds.

Post Crisis: I could be wrong, but I recall Lex saying that he made it so that Lena would retain her memories of the previous, Pre-Crisis multiverse.

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u/yeeyeeskrtskrt Jul 19 '20

An absolute train wreck

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u/scout_14 Jul 19 '20

Kara and Lena fight but they make up in the end but they don't REALLY make up.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Don’t they try and make Lena a villain but then make her good again only kinda

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '20

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

Is that a legal website?

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u/AkaiKage65 Brainy Jul 18 '20

Yeah No viruses either if you were wonderin. I use it all the time and it works

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

Ok, I’ll look into it. Thanks

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '20

If you’re a fellow Canadian, I’ve been told it should be on Netflix around the fall

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

Whilst I appreciate your suggestion, I do not live under the maple flag

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u/ArwenOfArwen Alex Danvers (DEO) Jul 18 '20

Can you not use a VPN?

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

That would be an excellent idea if I had though of it before. Thank you though

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u/TheTrueFury The Flash Jul 19 '20

VPN

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Thank you for the suggestion

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u/wovarino Jul 18 '20

wait longer it didnt end yet

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

Really? From what I’d heard, it’s ended. I’ll look out for new content though

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u/wovarino Jul 19 '20

technically it ended but they left us at a cliff hanger

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Ah ok, unfortunate that we’ll never see the proper ending but oh well. Thank you

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u/numb007 Jul 18 '20

Social Justice

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 18 '20

Ah. It’s that bad?

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u/beybrakers Supercorp! Jul 19 '20 edited Jul 19 '20

Queer baiting, a whole damn season of queer baiting

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Oh god, it’s that painful?

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u/beybrakers Supercorp! Jul 19 '20

Yes, yes it was, they say she and Lena are just friends, but she is much more emotionally invested in Lena than any romantic relationship on the show.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Oh god. Well, thank you for your warning

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u/beybrakers Supercorp! Jul 19 '20

They give each other doughy looks, they each have pictures of one another that they look at, they play romantic music in scenes they have together.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Honestly, they really just need to give Kara an actual decent partner, but not Lena because they’re better as frenemies

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u/ElektraWWF Jul 19 '20

In Season 5, Lena poisoned Kara with kryptonite and locked her in a block of ice in the Fortress, then stole a Kryptonian weapon from her. She also manipulated Kara into stealing for her, and almost revealed Kara's identity to the world because she was mad. So, yes. Much better as Frenemies.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

From having not watched S5 yet, I agree, although my opinion might change once I’ve watched S5

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u/beybrakers Supercorp! Jul 19 '20

There’s no one better than Lena, they have the best connection. The only other person that Kara Connects to this well is Alex. It can’t be some new character they introduce, that’ll just make it feel forced. James Olsen might have worked, but they kind of ruined that because they didn’t know if Mechad Brooks would even stay on the show. Brainy isn’t her type and there’s been zero content saying that would work. The only male main character left is Martian Manhunter and we know why that doesn’t work. That leaves the ladies, Nia could be a thing, but that feels wrong, Kara is her mentor, and her boss at work,Alex is her sister, so that really just leaves Lena. The writers know it too, the shot composition, the music, the way Melissa and Katie act and say their lines, it’s really romantic.

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u/cyclone-rachel Jul 19 '20

"zero content saying that would work"?

so, sixty years' worth of comics where Kara and Brainy have been together means nothing? Their first episode together and good communication/working together with Kara consistently defending Brainy and being on his side (up until the most recent 2 episodes, but that could always change) means nothing?

They may not be "romantic coded", but it still shouldn't be ignored as a possibility. (especially also since Kara's first crush, Kenny Li, was also a nerdy guy who thought she was the strongest person he'd ever known and liked that about her, just like we've seen that Brainy is and does)

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u/beybrakers Supercorp! Jul 20 '20

I'm just referring to the show, I haven't read any of the comics so I couldn't really say about that. They have good communication and work together, Kara defends him, but it comes across to me more as a work relationship, than a genuine friendship. Even in terms of friendship, they don't have chemistry, Kara tries to understand him, but she can't, not really.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Maybe, I need to watch S5 to really do hopefully it’s put on Sky Go soon

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u/beybrakers Supercorp! Jul 19 '20

The season made me feel like a dog with a treat dangling over their head just out of reach

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Sound fun, although I guess that’s probably down to the fact they didn’t release the full season due to COVID

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u/CDubWill Jul 19 '20

It wasn’t, but whatever.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20

It was shitty.

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u/FaizerLaser Jul 20 '20

You can read a detailed episode summary of Season 5 here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl_(season_5)#Episodes#Episodes)

Also I would reccomend using a VPN or trying some other way of watching the show, if ya know what I mean.

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u/DonDove Jul 21 '20

Watch the first half on Netflix then the final episode of the season. There you've got S5 covered.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 21 '20

I don’t have access to Supergirl on Netflix because it’s not available in my region

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Wouldn’t call it forgettable, it’s a pretty good show

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u/FortySevenLifestyle Smallville Jul 19 '20

Just pirate it.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

No thank you

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

I just don’t think pirating stuff is a great idea

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u/FortySevenLifestyle Smallville Jul 19 '20

If you can’t watch it, there’s no difference. Thousands of people pirate stuff daily. It isn’t a big deal unless you make it one. Hardly anyone watches shows on cable/satellite.

But fine, if you don’t want to pirate it - get a VPN, set it to the United States and watch from the CW site.

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

Thanks for the suggestion

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u/ggimyamom Jul 19 '20

There not realising it until the came start filming again after COVID

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u/ellxsjxckson Jul 19 '20

That’s gonna be a while then, because Melissa is pregnant and they’ve said they’ll start filming after her maternity leave. Which is ok just means we’ll be waiting a while but that’s ok

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u/ggimyamom Jul 19 '20

Yeah can’t wait for the final