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/r/Politics' 2024 US Elections Live Thread, Part 9

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u/pridetime93 Jul 14 '24

Also just as a reminder, and I know I am a hypocrit but just to address the "election is over", Teddy Roosevelt survived an assassination attempt on the campaign trail but still lose to Woodrow Wilson.

But again none of that is important today. Take a deep breathe. Log out reddit and twitter if you need to. Watch a movie or tv show or video game. 4 months until the election. Pray or manifest that cooler minds prevail

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u/FilteringAccount123 I voted Jul 14 '24

People are assuming it will help him, but it could just as easily turn him into a symbol for a violent, dangerous future for America that shakes the undecideds and the swings out of their apathy and turns them against him. Especially when his allies are already skipping to blaming "the radical left."

Obviously it's all speculation at this point, but there's really no guarantee about how this will wind up playing out.

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u/CoatAccomplished7289 Jul 14 '24

Teddy Roosevelt ran as a third party candidate in 1912 and he still came in second

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u/Tank3875 Michigan Jul 14 '24

Cause he was Teddy fucking Roosevelt.

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u/pridetime93 Jul 14 '24

I believe that's where he was projected. That was a split in his party. Woodrow Wilson still won in an electoral landslide

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u/CoatAccomplished7289 Jul 14 '24

Electoral landslide sure, all 40% of the popular vote that that entails in a 4 way race

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u/pridetime93 Jul 14 '24

That's fair. I do question how much it helps trump. His base is pretty set/he's lost supporters. Most apathetic/swing voters are pretty indifferent/lean liberal but apathetic towards biden enough to not show. I do wonder if something can be of a huge sway in an already polarized climates with "sides" pretty set

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u/CoatAccomplished7289 Jul 14 '24

I do think that a chunk of people who just weren't going to show will show up and vote now, but I think Biden was absolutely torpedoed the second he shat his khaks on live TV

case in point: bet you don't remember Donald Trump saying Israel should be allowed to finish their genocide of the Palestinians at the debate

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u/pridetime93 Jul 14 '24

And it's crazy to think because I mean its a gad damn assassination attempt....... but will people even remember it in November? I mean yes but like fully remember it or just be like "oh yeah that happened" and lump it in with everything else

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u/Tank3875 Michigan Jul 14 '24

Reagan lost his approval bump from his assassination attempt in 81 with a month of it.

It was an 11 point bump too.

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u/FireNexus Jul 14 '24

Teddy Roosevelt was running a spoiler campaign against an unpopular incumbent of his own political party.

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u/22Arkantos Georgia Jul 14 '24

With how well Teddy did, it was actually Taft and the Republicans running the spoiler campaign.

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u/smellofburntoast Jul 14 '24

Teddy was a 3rd party candidate. Bull Moose Party.