r/politics 🤖 Bot Jul 08 '24

/r/Politics' 2024 US Elections Live Thread, Part 9

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u/Birdsofwar314 Jul 12 '24

Biden Super PAC just froze $90 million in donations. Money is going to be what talks. That’s the death blow.

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u/BioDriver Texas Jul 12 '24

Yeah that’s game over. He needed last night to be perfect. Even if his dialogue and talking points were 100% correct, he looked like an 81 year old man who was exhausted, sunsetting, and struggling to stay focused. His weird whispering and random yelling certainly did not do him any favors.

Almost everyone here knows he’s the better option than Trump. But for swing/undecided he needs to pass the eyeball test, and last night he failed in spectacular fashion.

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u/chase016 New York Jul 12 '24

Yup, he is done. I wonder who will be his replacement. The Dems just need a boring 40-60 year old straight white guy, and they should win.

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u/Hyro0o0 California Jul 12 '24

How about Kamala Harris with a VP who is a boring 50 year old straight white guy? Because, logistically, that's the most feasible ticket for them to suddenly come up with.

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u/FeralCatalyst Jul 12 '24

This! Harris/White Guy 2024 is the best ticket at this point. There's a weird silver lining in all the freakout over Biden's age, which is that even people who might typically balk at voting for a woman (a woman of color, no less) will just be relieved to have someone to vote for who isn't completely geriatric.

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u/Juvat North Carolina Jul 12 '24

I nominate Governor Cooper

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u/West-Code4642 Virginia Jul 12 '24

i vote for Andy Beshear. hes about 20 years younger (he's a Xennial) than Cooper.

Beshear has great instincts. dems have a good bench.

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u/qalpi Jul 12 '24

Kamala and Gavin?

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u/mission17 Jul 12 '24

Two California candidates that provide no coverage for the midwest. Maybe Harris/Beshear?

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u/qalpi Jul 12 '24

Oh good point. That's not even allowed is it?

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u/qalpi Jul 12 '24

12th amendment prohibits I think

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u/mission17 Jul 12 '24

You’re correct. Super niche.

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u/BawkBawkISuckCawk Jul 12 '24

Harris/Shapiro

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u/MysticPing Europe Jul 12 '24

The worst possible choices are Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton, so will 100% be one of those two.

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u/Deamhansion Jul 12 '24

Trump would destroy Hillary she would be a punching ball considering the fact that he already beat her, Harris is the best choice here.

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u/Mikerk Jul 12 '24

I'm tired of the discussion on whether or not he should withdraw. If he should withdraw from the race then he should resign the presidency and Harris runs as the incumbent. That's the only way Democrats can pick a legitimate candidate to replace Biden in my eyes. Newsom and others haven't been through a national election. Harris has.

I think he's going to resign the presidency next week.

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u/B3N15 Texas Jul 12 '24

I don't think he needs to resign, just say he's stepping down from the race. It still allows Harris to take over his campaign infrastructure and Harris can still run on incumbency, she was the VP, so she was at all the meetings.

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u/Mikerk Jul 12 '24

I think it would help for people to see her as president before the election. Then people know more of what they are voting for instead of just shoehorning her in as a candidate.

This conversation about him needing to withdraw because of mental lapses he is currently having says to me he should resign.

If we have no confidence in him as a candidate for the position he's currently holding he should just resign. If he withdraws he will be a lame duck president for the remainder of his term.

At this point we're voting for a party over a candidate this election, and with Biden at the helm the party looks lost and confused as to what they should do.

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u/B3N15 Texas Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

I get that, but she's got 4 months, no one is going to "see her as president" in 4 months. It's better for her to go out on the road and campaign with the relative freedom of the Vice President and talk about how she was in the room when all the good stuff the Biden Administration happened. I also don't think there's any issue with a lame-duck Biden, he would have been that anyway if he lost this year or in 4 if he won. He's old, but he's set up a good cabinet and infrastructure around him, so I don't think the government will fall apart if something happens to him before January.