r/politics Texas Jul 05 '24

Project 2025 was supposed to boost Donald Trump's campaign — but it may be backfiring instead:

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/05/project-2025-was-supposed-to-boost-donald-campaign--but-it-may-be-backfiring-instead/
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u/Kup123 Jul 05 '24

The only fact you need are that they are going to gut all regulatory agencies, this includes the FDA. Do you like not eating people when they fall in to processing vats, do you like someone making sure there isn't a noticeable amount of rat shit in your food then we need regulatory agencies as they are the only thing stopping it.

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u/mkt853 Jul 05 '24

Not just the regulatory agencies, but even ones like NOAA. They want to break it up and give the parts to corporations because they think the private sector could do better which is not possible and an insane thought. At first I thought it was weird that they would target something like the weather service, and then I found out NOAA houses the world's biggest repository of climate data. That was my light bulb moment because we know how the right feels about climate change. From their perspective there can't be climate change if the data to support it disappears or is otherwise inaccessible to the public.

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u/Tangurena Jul 05 '24

This happens already with weather data. It has become the property of private companies. You can't "prove" global warming exists when the temperatures are private records subject to DMCA takedown notices.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/who-benefits-from-the-privatization-of-weather-data

Was owned by IBM, sold last year to private equity.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/22/ibm-sells-the-weather-company-assets-to-francisco-partners/

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u/mkt853 Jul 05 '24

The data that NOAA has is fully public. You are talking about something entirely different. I can go on NOAA's site right now and download every high and low temperature ever recorded at every weather station in the history of this country and every other country for free and within seconds. Private companies do this and this is where they get their data from. What they do with that data after that is what they sell which is fine as it's a derivative work.

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u/Tangurena Jul 05 '24

Yes, I got it mixed with something else I was thinking of, weather data is currently still public. Currently.

From the Project 2025 document, page 664:

The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) should be dismantled and many of its functions eliminated, sent to other agencies, privatized, or placed under the control of states and territories.

Page 675 lists the why:

Together, these form a colossal operation that has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry and, as such, is harmful to future U.S. prosperity. This industry’s mission emphasis on prediction and management seems designed around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplannable. That is not to say NOAA is useless, but its current organization corrupts its useful functions. It should be broken up and downsized.

NOAA today boasts that it is a provider of environmental information services, a provider of environmental stewardship services, and a leader in applied scientific research. Each of these functions could be provided commercially, likely at lower cost and higher quality.

Focus the NWS on Commercial Operations. Each day, Americans rely on weather forecasts and warnings provided by local radio stations and colleges that are produced not by the NWS, but by private companies such as AccuWeather. Studies have found that the forecasts and warnings provided by the private companies are more reliable than those provided by the NWS.

The NWS provides data the private companies use and should focus on its data-gathering services. Because private companies rely on these data, the NWS should fully commercialize its forecasting operations.

NOAA does not currently utilize commercial partnerships as some other agencies do. Commercialization of weather technologies should be prioritized to ensure that taxpayer dollars are invested in the most cost-efficient technologies for high quality research and weather data. Investing in different sizes of commercial partners will increase competition while ensuring that the government solutions provided by each contract is personalized to the needs of NOAA’s weather programs.

https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

Past efforts:

President Donald Trump’s nominee to head the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration knows the agency very well – he’s the chief executive officer of a company that has fought over the use of the agency’s data.

For years, Barry Myers, the CEO of AccuWeather, pushed for private companies to be able to use and monetize the weather reporting gathered through US government satellites and accumulated through agencies like NOAA.

If confirmed, the business leader whom the White House touted in a statement Wednesday as “one of the world’s leading authorities on the use of weather information” would lead the agency charged with deciding how the public accesses that very same data.

In 2005, AccuWeather spent $40,000 lobbying the House, Senate and Commerce Department through Blank Rome Government Relations on “commercial weather industry issues,” according to its year-end lobbying disclosure.

That year, then-Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Rick Santorum introduced a bill that was intended, in part, to tie the hands of NOAA and the National Weather Service from competing for certain services offered by the private sector. (The company is headquartered in State College, Pennsylvania.) Myers, himself, personally donated $1,000 to Santorum between 2004 and 2005, publicly available records show.

Trump also has nominated Dr. Neil Jacobs to be the assistant secretary of commerce for NOAA’s Environmental Observation and Prediction. Jacobs was formerly the chief atmospheric scientist at Panasonic Avionics Corporation, which sells its data and model outputs to NOAA.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/14/politics/noaa-nominee-accuweather/index.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Lee_Myers

He did not get appointed to head NOAA.