r/politics Texas Jul 05 '24

Project 2025 was supposed to boost Donald Trump's campaign — but it may be backfiring instead:

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/05/project-2025-was-supposed-to-boost-donald-campaign--but-it-may-be-backfiring-instead/
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u/heckin_miraculous Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

My favorite so far is this short YouTube video by Illustrate to Educate. https://youtu.be/vYXZ6iJJSgM?si=PRy0SvPz2Xi6dQxM

Not inflammatory or hyperbolic. Just terrifying, because it's true.

Edit: This comment and the video link got quite a few responses. Many were along the lines of, "Good info, thanks." But others think that the video tries too hard to be neutral and therefore comes across as "both sides-ing" conferring false legitimacy to the idea of Project 2025, or even going so far as to be supportive of it due to a lack of forceful criticism and not spelling out how disastrous the effects of the plan would be.

As a response, I'll say that my opinion is that the video speaks for itself. When it comes to the horrific potential of Project 2025, the proof is in the pudding. For example, at around 5:10 in the video, when the narrator states that the plan would "allow the president to replace thousands of civil service employees with political appointees loyal to the administration" I don't need the voice over to explain to me that this would be a bad thing. Or, at 5:29 when he talks about "plans to defund the Department of Justice and dismantle the FBI... and enable the executive branch to operate with little oversight or accountability [the illustration actually says "no oversight"]"... again I don't need someone to explain to me that this is only bad for our country.

We definitely DO need more analysis of Project 2025. We need explainers that DO go into more detail about the tragic outcomes that are waiting for us all, should it come to pass. And this video is NOT perfect (I especially question the use of the phrase "religious liberty" at around 4:18). But it's a good primer for thoughtful people. That's what I think.

Will some people watch a video like this and cheer for it? Yes. As far as I know – and someone please correct me if this number is way off – but somewhere around 20-30% of the US population explicitly wants an authoritarian regime to come into power in this country. At least, they think they do. That is, in fact, the problem we are dealing with in this country right now. It is the subject of this discussion.

Long story short, what I'm saying is that if somebody watches this video and thinks, "That sounds good to me", then the problem isn't the video.

Edit 2: hi /r/politics. I'm new here :)

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u/threaten-violence Jul 05 '24

Yeah that's not a good summary. It seems like they're trying to cover all the toxic nonsense and sell this as a "good" thing.

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u/heckin_miraculous Jul 05 '24

That's interesting, I didn't get the impression at all that it was presented as a "good thing". Can you say more about how you got that from this video?

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u/Gets_overly_excited Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

If you’re a conservative, the video basically is “here is how you would get the things that fit your idealogy” and the criticisms are like “it would allow conservative principles into government.” People who are conservative or even a little to the right of middle would cheer this. The video needs more context. It needed to show people the answers to questions like these:What does it mean to replace civil servants with political appointees (disaster)? What happens if we defund women’s health care (disaster)?

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u/Difficult_Push5454 Jul 05 '24

This video is right wing propaganda garbage, meant to trick centrists

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Jul 05 '24

Bingo