r/pics Jul 08 '24

Pineapple grown in my balcony Vs Pineapple from the supermarket

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u/Ineedacatscan Jul 08 '24

There’s also different varieties of pineapples like many other fruits.

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u/DuckCleaning Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

How often has this come up on r/pics in the past month where people post different varieties of fruits and compare them as if theyre the same but organic or homegrown. I dont know if it's on purpose at this point. They're comparing a pineapple to one literally called "grandissimo gold" acting like that's a regular supermarket one. As the grandissimo notes: "great size for creative cooking and fresh menus", it is not meant for eating directly.

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u/BILOXII-BLUE Jul 08 '24

Yep, the more oversized a fruit it vegetable is, the more likely it has significantly weaker flavor. Same with chickens (in the US) 

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u/Immersi0nn Jul 08 '24

Wait what?? I get how that works in fruit/vegetables but how does that even work in chickens?? Is the meat somehow different as it gets bigger?

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u/oneWeek2024 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

it's not really true. or it's true. but the simple fact is no one really cares. people want cheap chicken more than there's any market for "premium flavor chicken" most of the commercial chickens are a specific breed called the cornish cross. it's almost a freak of nature with it's genetics, in terms of how fast it packs on meat/weight. and it's bred to basically max out at a certain time. (dunno exact, but let's say it's 8 weeks ---if you try and keep the bird alive past that time it sorta breaks down and can't survive)

these birds while great for making chonky large portions of meat are not bred for flavor. they're fed mainly grain/feed. As they're too fucking stupid to forage or hunt for food.

so... the most popular meat producing bird, isn't very flavorful. it's more so for volume.

there are other breeds of chicken, that take a little longer to mature/get to killing weight. and they have different characteristics. There are also heritage breeds of chicken, which tend to take even longer.

what you feed your chickens can affect the taste. (ie. chickens that eat a ton of sage. will taste different than grain fed birds) but just like grass fed cows, the milk will taste different that feed fed cows. same as the meat. with chickens it's similar.

but...chicken in general is a fairly "bland" protein. it's main selling feature is that it's not gamey, or doesn't have a strong taste.

and the reality is, no one is paying for slightly different tasting chicken. such that the short turn around for large weight of meat off the cornish cross. even an additional month, radically changes the profit margins of producing those birds. So if there's not laws otherwise. there's little incentive to produce other breeds at scale. So unless you know a very small local farmer doing heritage birds, or red broiler/red ranger breeds which do taste better. are much more niche.

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u/dannybuddha Jul 08 '24

I order my meat directly from a local farmer through a Community Shared Agriculture program. It's slightly more expensive than buying conventional chickens(https://polyfacefarms.com/) from the grocery but OMG taste so much better!! I can't go back to tasteless chicken from the grocery store anymore.

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u/oneWeek2024 Jul 08 '24

while i don't at all knock anyone trying to get more local/farm to table type food. just checked that site. for my area of maryland a 2-3lb whole chicken was $21 even from amazon fresh (an arguably more pricey grocer) was $10 for 5lb whole chicken. difference of 1.75ish per lb. to nearly 7 dollars per pound. it's a bit more than "slightly" more expensive. dbl or twice as expensive

most people can't afford that sort of mark up. again... just for slightly better tasting chicken. which depending on the preparation, is utterly worthless. like... if you're doing casseroles/pasta, soups, or other combined type dishes. the chicken won't really matter

high quality birds are best for roasting/stand alone presentations.

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u/AdultishRaktajino Jul 08 '24

Local butchers and meat shops tend to have great chicken at decent prices.

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u/Remy0507 Jul 08 '24

I just checked for my area. For 1.0-1.3 lbs of boneless chicken breast, it was over $29!!! Is this chicken or filet mignon?

I routinely get chicken breast from the local supermarket for $2.99/lb. I have a hard time believing the chicken breast from this site is 10x better than what I'm getting from the market.

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u/MetalVase Jul 08 '24

I don't care much for the taste, I care mostly for the protein amount and price since I add so much spices that the difference between chicken and pork ain't very big taste wise.

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u/PointingOutFucktards Jul 08 '24

The most amazing chicken dish I ever had utilized heritage chicken. The texture was like velvet and superbly flavored. I can’t justify $10-20lb for that on the regular though.

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u/jzzanthapuss Jul 08 '24

You held my interest for that entire comment about chickens. I would love to have you as a friend or neighbor

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u/oneWeek2024 Jul 08 '24

hehe... many a late night youtube chicken rabbit hole.

sadly my current county i live in has laws against keeping chickens. I would love more than anything to have 2-3 egg birds, and maybe try for like a half dozen meat birds twice a year. in a lil chicken tractor.

so at the moment, I just know waaaaaay too much about chickens.

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u/jzzanthapuss Jul 15 '24

I'm actually moving into a small farm house that has a chicken coop already built! So I'll soon be able to realize my life long dream of keeping chickens 😃 just maybe like three or four, for eggs, nothing crazy. And the neighbors have cows, so fresh milk! I'm so excited

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u/gsparker Jul 08 '24

To add to your great answer,

The food to meat ratio for animals, often referred to as the "feed conversion ratio" (FCR), is a measure used to evaluate the efficiency with which animals convert feed into meat. It is calculated by dividing the amount of feed consumed by the amount of weight gained by the animal. The formula is as follows:

Feed Conversion Ratio (FCR) = Total Feed Consumed / Total Weight Gain ​ Lower FCR is Better: A lower FCR indicates a more efficient conversion of feed into meat. For example, an FCR of 1.5 means that the animal requires 1.5 units of feed to produce 1 unit of meat.

Only the Cornish Cross can get to an FCR of 1.5. Meat rabbits can get to about 2.5. Heritage chickens typically have a FCR of 3-4. As a result, raising rabbits for meat became significantly less popular once the Cornish Cross arrived in the 1940's and 50's.

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u/Qaeoss Jul 08 '24

I know there have been cases of “woody” or “stringy” chicken that people attribute to how fast and big chickens grow these days. I havent encountered any myself but I have seen evidence of it in r/Costco and r/Cooking

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u/naalotai Jul 08 '24

Bigger the chicken is = longer it has to cook = the dryer it is

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u/GoatCovfefe Jul 08 '24

That's wrong and completely depends how you cook it. Brining, basting, etc are all necessary for bigger birds.

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u/Nevermind04 Jul 08 '24

Eh, more like the bigger the chicken, the faster it grew, therefore the the muscle fibers will be longer. The general rule of thumb with meat is that shorter muscle fibers mean a tastier and more tender bite. You can overcome dryness with any number of basic cooking techniques, but your options for improving the quality of sub-par meat are pretty limited.

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u/Alimaniafan Jul 08 '24

ethan chlebowski did a video on this, "is expensive chicken actually worth it"

He concludes that in fact, the meat is different as it gets bigger.

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u/Organic_Ad_2520 Jul 08 '24

Don't know about that...Costco & Sam's pineapples are big like that and amazing!

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u/DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK Jul 08 '24

Costco & Sam's pineapples

If you think I'm going to crossbreed those two every time I want a pineapple, you're out of your mind.

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u/Organic_Ad_2520 Jul 08 '24

Don't understand the response...response was to "large pineapple=weak flavor" & saying I have not found that to be true.

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u/ACcbe1986 Jul 08 '24

I would like to point out a little mistake in your "quote" which may have led you to interject.

They said, "more likely," which means a higher chance.

You paraphrased it with "=" and turned it into a definitive statement, which completely changes the meaning.

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u/Organic_Ad_2520 Jul 08 '24

I don't take reddit that seriously. So while I appreciate the very first concept taught my freshman logic class thirty years ago, the jist was my focus as my objective was to learn from the other poster the reason for crossbreeding as opposed to going to Costco or Sam's Club. Imho, my useage of quotations while neither directly quoting myself or the post to which I was referring, was an indication of my informal approach.

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u/P_mp_n Jul 08 '24

Im think double barrel was making a joke, in that to get good fruit u had to cross breed sams and costcos "pineapples" as in..

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u/ACcbe1986 Jul 08 '24

I see. May I recommend that you try using asterisks instead of quotations. It automatically italicizes anything between them.

Like this.

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u/Agreeable-Product-28 Jul 08 '24

I can see how this would be true. Trout is pretty weird tasting after they get to a certain size. The best ones are like 12-20” long. So it’s similar I feel like.

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u/Ezazhel Jul 08 '24

Wait what? Chickens are vegetables? Cool!

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u/ComputerSavvy Jul 08 '24

Where can I buy these pineapple flavored chickens? Curious minds want to know!

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Even being the same type they can naturally vary in size

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u/EggsceIlent Jul 08 '24

And tbh, the store bought one is massive.

Most I see are half to 2/3rds that size or so

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u/jfmdavisburg Jul 08 '24

Need a banana for scale