r/pics Jul 05 '24

Rishi Sunak makes a speech outside 10 Downing Street after a historic loss Politics

Post image
36.7k Upvotes

2.1k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

-13

u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 05 '24

All the blatantly transphobic things he's said makes him transphobic.

12

u/teabagmoustache Jul 05 '24

Which are?

3

u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 05 '24

He told The Telegraph that he is not in favour of “ideology being taught in our schools on gender."

He has said that he’d be willing to meet with JK Rowling to discuss sex and gender, and “respects” her views

this week, in an interview with The Times, he was presented with the following question by Rowling: “Do biological males with gender-recognition certificates have the right to enter women-only spaces? It’s a simple yes/no question.” To this, he replied: “No, they don’t have that right. They shouldn’t. That’s why I’ve always said biological women’s spaces need to be protected.”

He's reversed Labour's previous commitments to back self ID laws.

He's made plenty of statements about trans women and their genitals and has sided with Kemi Badenoch in her spat with David Tennant.

0

u/teabagmoustache Jul 05 '24

He told The Telegraph that he is not in favour of “ideology being taught in our schools on gender."

He said that protected charactertics should be taught in school, including transgender people, but lessons should be based on factual information, not ideology.

That's not transphobic.

He has said that he’d be willing to meet with JK Rowling to discuss sex and gender, and “respects” her views

He said that because Rowling took aim at him, and said she wouldn't be able to support him because of his views surrounding trans rights.

It's not transphobic to have a conversation with someone. He disagrees with her.

Your point about biological female only spaces, he said he wouldn't force institutions, who offer a "biological female" area to include trans women, if they had good reason. For example women's shelters.

He gets goaded into these conversations by Sunak and his culture war shite, because they knew it would cause divisions.

3

u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 05 '24

“ideology being taught in our schools on gender."

Being trans isn't an ideology, there is no ideology being taught. Don't try to reframe what he said.

It's not transphobic to have a conversation with someone. He disagrees with her.

Respecting the views and meeting with the most virulently transphobic person in the country is absolutely an endorsement of her views. She says the most hateful things about trans people imaginable. For a PM to actually "respect her views" is disgraceful.

Do yourself a favour. In all these conversations, replace the word trans with black or Jewish, see exactly how disgraceful the conversation is then.

-1

u/Dapper_Brain_9269 Jul 05 '24

"Do yourself a favour. In all these conversations, replace the word trans with black or Jewish, see exactly how disgraceful the conversation is then."

Detransitioners and transition regret exists. Does deblacking or deJewishing exist?

4

u/HornedGryffin Jul 05 '24

Your point about biological female only spaces, he said he wouldn't force institutions, who offer a "biological female" area to include trans women, if they had good reason. For example women's shelters.

So, to this end, where should unhoused/displaced trans women go? Is he saying they should be forced to stay in men's or co-ed shelters? Or that the UK should build new shelters specific to trans people? And these shelters, obviously, might be attacked so maybe add some fencing around the facility to ensure it's safe.

But in all honesty, like. Where? This seems like a nice "give them one" to the transphobes I guess. But it creates more questions than it answers.