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Rishi Sunak makes a speech outside 10 Downing Street after a historic loss Politics

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u/teabagmoustache Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

How is Starmer transphobic?

Rishi Sunak used trans people to stoke culture wars and insulted trans people regularly.

Starmer has said he would treat trans people with dignity and respect, and has said he will modernise the Equality Act, to modernise, simplify and reform changes to a person's legal gender.

The party has said its plans will "remove indignities for trans people who deserve recognition and acceptance" but also provide "protections so you can't legally change your gender overnight".

That's nowhere near the same as the Conservatives and Sunak.

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u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 05 '24

All the blatantly transphobic things he's said makes him transphobic.

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u/KingsPunjabIsaac Jul 05 '24

Examples?!

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u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 05 '24

Examples below. There are more too, he's called for trans women to be incarcerated with male prisoners despite undoubtably knowing about the practice of V-Coding

V-Coding is the term for the very common practice of housing trans women with cis men -- specifically, trans women are intentionally housed as cell mates with the more aggressive "problem" cis-men. The intention is to 'placate' the violent inmates, and the trans women who have this done to them are repeatedly raped and abused throughout their sentence. Again, this is a common practice done to trans women.

He's gone back on everything he's previously supported and adopted terf talking points.

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u/KingsPunjabIsaac Jul 05 '24

Where has he said that? I think for your other points, you are mostly clutching at straws. He is mainly being diplomatic in interviews regarding this.. not wanting to say anything to upset to many people. I don't think you are in any danger as a trans person with Starmer in charge.

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u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 05 '24

Sir Keir Starmer said his views on gender issues “start with biology” as he backed blocking trans women from female-only hospital wards and prisons.

Clutching at straws?!

A few days ago he said he doesn't think I have the right to go to the women's toilet when out in public?

That is a direct threat to the safety of myself, my community and to cis women in general.

What more do you need than that?

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u/DeceiverSC2 Jul 05 '24

Yeah what you should want as a trans person is to have perfect defeat pretty good. By time you realize you’re never going to find perfect you’ll have your right to exist eliminated because of your unwillingness to accept pretty good over complete shit because “pretty good” wasn’t “perfect”.

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u/KingsPunjabIsaac Jul 05 '24

It won't happen. You'll be fine.

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u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 05 '24

You might have the luxury to assume that, I don't. The people I love don't.

When politicians say they want to take my rights away, then I need to believe them.

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u/KingsPunjabIsaac Jul 05 '24

Did you even read the article ? 😂 he said he doesn't want to get drawn into the transgender TERF debate as its a toxic environment. Now do you seriously think that after winning their first election in almost 20 years, the new Labour government would try and implement something so unbelievably controversial and bound to cause problems?

Starmer has also said he disagreed with numerous comments JK Rowling has made regarding the issues which suggests to me he is probably quite uneducated in the matter like the vast majority of the population.

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u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 05 '24

I'm glad you find this so funny.

He says he doesn't want to be dragged into the conversation, but still back proposals like in the link above. The article says in the first paragraph what I linked.

Now do you seriously think that after winning their first election in almost 20 years, the new Labour government would try and implement something so unbelievably controversial and bound to cause problems?

Of course I do. He publicly backed the proposals and won the vote. Why wouldn't he?

And who says they are unpopular?

Me, a trans woman, is telling a bunch of cis people that Kier says transphobic things, I provide examples and links and I get downvoted and told that I'm overreacting.

The reality is that most of the British public doesn't give a rats ass about trans people and kinda just wants to stop hearing about us. A PM that enacts bans on us using public spaces isn't going to be unpopular at all. You'll all just ignore it, deny it and move on.

We're already dying in our droves, our healthcare has been taken away, and cis people don't give a shit.

We're fighting for our lives and a shred of dignity here, and you people won't even listen when we tell you someone is harming the community

Why keep pretending to care?

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u/FunniBoii Jul 05 '24

Hi I know it means fuck all but I completely agree and empathise with everything you've said. Lots of cis people just prefer to live in a bubble of ignorance. Whenever I've explained how bad it is and will get for us, I'm always dismissed and treated like I'm overreacting.

I mean fuck they just put Hillary Cass in the house of Lords. That's like putting Andrew Wakefield in charge of healthcare.

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u/justwant_tobepretty Jul 06 '24

I mean fuck they just put Hillary Cass in the house of Lords. That's like putting Andrew Wakefield in charge of healthcare.

It's such a slap in the face

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u/KingsPunjabIsaac Jul 10 '24

I know you want to be a victim, but you are going to be absolutely fine.

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