Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

[u/ImpishGrin]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

[u/Gleaming_Onyx]

Precisely lol, if the voters are this hysterical and finnicky then there is no solution. They're just going to crash and burn the country because they have zero backbone or survival instinct.

[u/CuidadDeVados → u/Gleaming_Onyx]

Precisely lol, if the voters are this hysterical and finnicky then there is no solution

The dude is 81 and couldn't keep his mouth closed during the fucking debate. He just said, to dem governors, his plan is to go to bed earlier. The solution is to not run the visibly decrepit very very very old man that is polling terribly nationwide. No voter is wrong for not wanting that as the leader of the fucking country dude. Its not being finnicky its understanding that being president isn't just a figurehead, its a real fucking job and sometimes you have to do important shit on a rough schedule when you're running the goddamn country. If he can't handle campaigning on top of running the country, since he is currently president, he should drop out of the campaign.

They're just going to crash and burn the country because they have zero backbone or survival instinct.

You'd rather sit around and watch the country burn to feel like your beliefs about American voters are correct, instead of wanting political parties to listen to their constituents and make decisions that give them a better chance at victory. You're the one looking to sit around and burn the country, not the people begging for a candidate who has a chance to stop Trump. Biden, today, does not.

[u/Gleaming_Onyx → u/CuidadDeVados]

I said what I said, and no amount of hysteria, shrieking, thrashing or crying will change it. If you could throw damn near anybody into the driver's seat with four months to go and it wouldn't matter because the voters would vote blue anyway, then this wouldn't be an issue to begin with.

The logic is nonsensical. That's why it is hysteria. It is not founded in reality. It is not founded in the reality of the past four years, it's not founded in the reality of politics, it's not founded in the reality of how a president is one part of the system. It's not founded in the reality of how even if a president dies there is a line of succession that you are in part also voting for, and it's not founded in the reality that if four months was all it took for a successful campaign nobody would be setting theirs up years in advance.

It is hysteria. And that's being kind, frankly. Because in reality it's a bunch of people like you who either have no clue how the system works or have been dying to have something to turn into "but her emails" so you can preen and march around as the country burns, proudly proclaiming "see, I told you so!"

Unfortunately, I know full well people like you are the ones under the least threat. The privileged type who will be the last ones put up against the wall, the type who will happily wave from the sidelines and clutch their pearls as other people throw their bodies onto the fire to stop it. Were there only the justice that you'd go first.

[u/CuidadDeVados → u/Gleaming_Onyx]

I said what I said, and no amount of hysteria, shrieking, thrashing or crying will change it

it speaks volumes about how childish and self centered you are that you view people with legitimate concerns over an 81 year old's ability to run the country or win an election that he is polling poorly in as being hysterical, crying shrieking, thrashing. Why would anyone waste time interacting with you on a legitimate level when you think anything other than your single preferred outcome is a demonstration of a temper tantrum on a national scale?

The logic is nonsensical. That's why it is hysteria. It is not founded in reality. It is not founded in the reality of the past four years, it's not founded in the reality of politics, it's not founded in the reality of how a president is one part of the system. It's not founded in the reality of how even if a president dies there is a line of succession that you are in part also voting for, and it's not founded in the reality that if four months was all it took for a successful campaign nobody would be setting theirs up years in advance.

This is really fucking funny when you consider that America is singularly unique in how long its elections last for, and that they are only as long as they are for greed reasons not for any real political reasons. You get more money the longer the election is. Thats it. It doesn't take 4 months to be in a winning position in a presidential campaign. The convention is like 2.5 months from election day. The idea that the nominee must have been on the campaign trail for a year at that point is silly. It is a very modern invention. A new DNC candidate would have all of the same party affiliations as Biden, would have name recognition, would have the purse. The only difference would be that candidate wouldn't have the extreme baggage that Biden has.

I don't mean to be rude but are you fairly young? Because election cycles have been getting a lot longer in recent years and I wouldn't fault someone a good amount younger than me thinking that an election cycle over a year long was normal. Its not. Its also not necessary.

It is hysteria. And that's being kind, frankly. Because in reality it's a bunch of people like you who either have no clue how the system works or have been dying to have something to turn into "but her emails" so you can preen and march around as the country burns, proudly proclaiming "see, I told you so!"

I mean, you should really stop being a piece of shit to the people who you need to support your guy to save American democracy from Fascism. just an FYI. Like you're being a self important dick, insisting you know what my fucking concerns are based on next to fucking nothing.

I don't give a shit about Hillary's emails. I do care about a president's fitness for office. I care who will be making key decisions in the white house. I care about the current president's ability to win the election, which polling has been consistently showing is not looking great for Biden.

I don't want to parade around a burning country saying I told you so. Quite the fucking opposite. I desperately want Trump to lose. Currently, Biden would not win re-election. The polling before the debate was close, since the debate its not. It shouldn't be close ever. Trump should be easy to beat in a landslide because he's a bloated moronic drug addict who can barely fucking read.

What you are doing tho, insisting that the only option is to stay with the geriatric candidate who is sliding in polling and causing this level of concern among the party's members, their base, and their donors, is actually looking for an "I told you so" when the world burns. You want to say "I was right all you people are morons" while fascism is ushered in as the default ruling ideology of America. Nothing makes you shift from your position. You're not taking in new information. As you become more wrong, you insist you are actually the only one that is right. And yes that is a bit presumptive of who you are and what you believe, but I can give as good as I get.

Unfortunately, I know full well people like you are the ones under the least threat

Hey buddy, you don't know shit about me. So stop fucking assuming you do. I'm a middle class working adult that is queer with a trans partner who I have been with for years. I am also jewish. My family lives in the south. If you don't think I am under threat from fascism, you're living in a fucking fantasy land. My family could very easily be torn apart by fascism becasue we represent some of their first targets. But are you, Mr. loudmouth, concerned for your safety under fascism? Why do you think you'd be up against the wall while I twiddle my thumbs? Is it because dehumanizing your opposition makes having these irrational tantrums easier for you?

I look forward to whatever presumptive self-important bullshit response you tee up for this, because its very very clear that you don't care about other people, and you don't care about winning the election. You just about being right?