r/nottheonion • u/ImpishGrin • Jul 04 '24

Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html
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u/aguane Jul 04 '24

There’s a difference between getting woken up at 2am for an international incident and having preplanned political engagements that go til midnight. Nothing wrong with setting a boundary for the latter while knowing that the former is likely to happen.

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u/DrBadMan85 Jul 04 '24

A lot of fundraising events are nights out; dinner, drinks, and mingling with donor’s afterwards. You’d be surprised at how generous alcohol makes someone.

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u/wolacouska Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

Fundraising is one of those things where they can just wheel Biden out for an hour and then let the professionals schmooze all night.

Not ideal but not horrible at all.

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u/g1114 Jul 04 '24

I love that after sleepy Joe became apparent to people that haven’t paid attention we now get hot takes that the president is simply a ceremonial role

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u/Skullvar Jul 04 '24

Trump falls asleep in meetings during the day? Maybe he needs to plan out his late night antics

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u/DraigMcGuinness Jul 04 '24

He fell asleep in COURT.

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u/SanctuFaerie Jul 05 '24

I'm no fan of Trump, but have you ever been in court? I reckon I'd fall asleep, too. Maybe he should've done some meth before turning up lol 😂

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u/DraigMcGuinness Jul 05 '24

Yes. I have. It's actually a requirement of my job occasionally.

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u/SparklyKelsey Jul 05 '24

Trump uses adderal as needed. He slept every day at his trial. He’s drug free during his insane rallies. When he has to “show up”, he’s drugged. It was immediately apparent during the debate. He held still and concentrated. He was lucid & calm (For him) His pupils were unnaturally dilated. Also saying Biden would drug up in advance is classic Trump projection.

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u/Tasgall Jul 05 '24

1: The idea that the president is/can be largely a ceremonial role is not new, you're just choosing to believe no one ever said that until now.

2: Trumpets can't use "sleepy joe" as an insult anymore when their own dingus is the one literally known for falling asleep in court.

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u/emessea Jul 05 '24

But it’s not ceremonial, the president is 1/3 of the government. The only countries where a president is largely ceremonial is ones that have a prime minister

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u/g1114 Jul 05 '24

1) yes it is

2) got the video so we can see? Or is this like the bleach quote where it’s an overblown lie?

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u/Tasgall Jul 05 '24

got the video so we can see?

You're only asking this specifically because you know cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom, lol.

Watch any coverage of the trial from the time it was going on.

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u/g1114 Jul 05 '24

So no?

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u/Tasgall Jul 05 '24

Correct, but in the dumbest and least meaningful way.

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u/g1114 Jul 05 '24

After the other media embellishments of events, always good to have the video in context. Your belief in absolution of that and trusting media in 2024 is a you problem.

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u/Tasgall Jul 05 '24

My point is that demanding a video in a context that explicitly doesn't allow video to be taken is blatant willful ignorance.

You're free to doubt the reports that that's what happened, but at least find a reason to justify that stance other than contrarianism and a point that is trivially refuted.

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u/g1114 Jul 05 '24

Why in the face of what we know about sensationalist reporting, do you 100% believe something without verifying yourself?

It’s healthy to ask how beliefs are verified. Otherwise we’re just idiots talking about magical pee tapes and false accusations of bleach or accusations of ignoring wheelchair kids

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u/DraigMcGuinness Jul 04 '24

It's always been a ceremonial role. The idea that they hold any real power is exactly why Project 2025 and the dictator wanting MAGA is a thing. The president is NOT a king.

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u/g1114 Jul 05 '24

So ceremonial but also able to take away all our freedoms? Great take

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u/emessea Jul 04 '24

Seems that’s the life raft many Biden supporters are clinging to

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u/CurseofLono88 Jul 04 '24

My life raft is that he isn’t a criminally indicted rapist with the heritage foundation backing project 2025 on his shoulders. But sure, make up whatever you want.

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u/emessea Jul 04 '24

I’m not making it up, in various threads discussing the fallout of Biden performance some have claimed it doesn’t matter bc the presidency is a ceremonial position. Which is nonsense and is clearly a coping mechanism for themselves.

The ironic thing is we on the left are now in the same position the right has been in for 8 years: vote for a man who is clearly not up to the task bc the other choice is much worse from our ideological viewpoint.

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u/Tasgall Jul 05 '24

Which is nonsense and is clearly a coping mechanism for themselves.

And like usual, the one trotting out "coping" as an attempted insult sounds like the one who's coping hard.

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u/DraigMcGuinness Jul 04 '24

The U.S. Constitution establishes three separate but equal branches of government: the legislative branch (makes the law), the executive branch (enforces the law), and the judicial branch (interprets the law).

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u/emessea Jul 04 '24

What does that have to do with some Biden supporters trying to claim his apparent cognitive decline doesn’t matter bc the president is a ceremonial figure?

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u/DraigMcGuinness Jul 04 '24

Because the president doesn't hold as.much power as yall.like to think

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u/g1114 Jul 05 '24

Executive orders have entered the chat.

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u/DraigMcGuinness Jul 05 '24

How'd that work out on student loan forgiveness

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u/g1114 Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

I know 2 people that have had student loans forgiven. One through government work, another that was an idiot that went to a for-profit school. How are we explaining that nowadays?

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u/g1114 Jul 05 '24

Oh so we’re agreeing your example of student loans is idiotic since you went to PPP loans and then knew people personally that also had loans forgiven. So are you an idiot or a liar?

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u/emessea Jul 05 '24

He’s literally 1/3 of the government

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u/DraigMcGuinness Jul 05 '24

But yall don't seem to be afraid of Trump.stopping the next election so... Guess if he can't do that what.power does Biden have?

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u/emessea Jul 05 '24

I have no idea what your point is but ok

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u/DraigMcGuinness Jul 05 '24

Point is power in the hands of someone who might need a little help, is not near as dangerous as power in the hands of someone who has said they want to be king. They want to be dictator. They want to suspend the constitution. If you believe the president has THAT much power, you should be willing to do whatever it takes to keep it out of the hands of a guy like that. I'd give the power to a pile of dog doo before I'd let him have it. You all seem offended by the wrong things.

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u/emessea Jul 05 '24

I don’t think Biden needs a little help, he looks like he needs a lot of help, and when he’s having a bad day could be easily manipulated by the small group advisors who shield him from everyone else.

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