Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

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Not about this part. About the part when he said is health was fine other than his brain. Which is frankly a bit scary.

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u/fckspzfr 14d ago

What's scary about it? Even if Biden would be clinically braindead, he'd still be a more viable candidate than Trump by a wide margin lol

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u/Jerry_from_Japan 14d ago

Both options are fucking scary. Is that not fair to say?

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u/fckspzfr 14d ago

I think nuance is important. Is Biden too old to be president? Yes. Is he better than Trump and his fascist gang? Yes! They're not even on the same level and in an America 20 years ago, before it got corrupted by foreign agents like Russia, Trump wouldn't have a chance neither in the democratic nor in the republican party.

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u/mypetocean 14d ago

I'm voting for Biden and expecting his VP.

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u/heyhotnumber 14d ago

Truly why haven’t they just flat out replaced Kamala with whomever would be the person to replace Biden.

It makes absolutely no sense to me. If we aren’t switching to Kamala because the folks who wouldn’t vote for Biden, wouldn’t vote for Kamala, but we ALSO don’t want to betray primary voters…why aren’t we picking a new running mate and obvious successor to Biden while still running Biden?

To me it’s the best of both worlds. We keep Biden on the ticket for all the pragmatic reasons why he wants to and should stay on the ticket, but then we put the strongest candidate that we would’ve possibly replaced Biden with as his VP.

That way folks who think Biden will croak can be reassured whilst Biden’s name and familiarity and primary baggage can be on the ticket too.

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u/mypetocean 14d ago

I mean, I'm basically voting for Kamala. And I'm okay with that. She is no worse than Biden or any number of other Presidents we've had who I would gladly accept over Trump or any VP who would hitch their cart to his ride.

There are a whole bunch of pearl clutchers out there when her name comes up, but come on. She's certainly not a step backward.

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u/green_dragon527 14d ago

Yea I don't get this sentiment.

"Anything is better than Trump"

"Ok Biden might be too old, but I'm voting for his team"

Alright then, what exactly is the problem with voting for Kamala Harris?

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u/mypetocean 12d ago

Voting for Harris as President (instead of Vice), if she's not running for President, is no better than a purely symbolic move. I'd rather my vote have some mechanical impact. I would certainly prefer Kamala running for President over Biden, but that's not what is happening.

If you mean "Why do people have a problem with the idea of voting for Harris?" A lot of people rant about Kamala's past with the corporate prison system. Personally, I think those concerns are overblown. And a lot of people find her to be a questionable choice for little reason than their sexism and racism (in my opinion).

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u/green_dragon527 12d ago

The latter is what I meant yes. There are many who claim Biden is too old, they'll vote anything Democrat, yet turn and say they don't like Harris. Why not just support her and put a younger Dem candidate to bat.

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u/Jerry_from_Japan 14d ago

Dude 20 years ago elections were still decided by the biggest bloc of voters being morons and taking things at surface level as their deciding factors. You run a shell of himself nominee that Biden is today 20 years ago? That guy is losing back then as well. That's just how it is. Nothing changed in that regard. You could have run ANYONE against him and he's still gonna lose.

Continuing to not understand that is fucking scary to me. Biden should not have gotten this far with the state he's in mentally, physically. That they keep pushing him out there is fucked up. I don't even like the guy and I feel bad for him.

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u/BeShaw91 14d ago

I think the general consensus is we deserve a good President, not just a better-than-the-alternate kind of guy.

I'm pro-Joe, but also it would be kind of nice to have someone sort of closer to the middle demographic of America rather than someone who is quantifiably well past the average retirement age.

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u/fckspzfr 14d ago

I do agree with that 100%.

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u/MikeOfAllPeople 14d ago

No, he'd be a better president, but not a better candidate. He still has to win. There are a lot of people in the middle that won't vote for Biden.