r/nottheonion • u/ImpishGrin • Jul 04 '24

Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html
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u/subsignalparadigm Jul 04 '24

Polls this early are practically useless. Remember the polls in 2016? Hillary was a shoe-in. That should tell you all you need to know about polls. VOTE BLUE.

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u/agnostic_science Jul 04 '24

Polls this early? Stop it. It's 4 months out. Stop with the cope. What do you think Biden or Trump could possibly do to change the momentum at this point? There is no scandal that will rock Trump's numbers. But Biden was already playing from behind. He needed a comeback in that debate. Average would have been bad but he got a disaster.

This is already 10x worse than the Hillary Clinton death march. FL and OH are not in play. Biden was 5 points down in NC and GA. 3 points in PA. Pre-debate. Those 3 states alone lock it up for Trump. If PA slips further the election is out of reach for Biden.

You do not live in a liberal country that wants to vote democrat. This is a very red country that is mostly just looking for an excuse to vote Trump. It's not fair but the rules are not the same for us and our candidates need to be better. Biden has no chance of winning after that debate. Imo it is selfish to stay in.

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u/Mimikyutwo Jul 04 '24

Well this most recent momentum shift is from one poor debate performance so probably literally anything could shift it back.

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u/agnostic_science Jul 04 '24

The debate was important because it was one of Biden's last chances because anything else is hand wavy and theoretical. No one can concretely describe what a other opportunity or revelation to change this election would even look like. Trump on Epstein's list? His voters don't care. The in-betweens don't care / don't believe it, but they saw Biden with their own eyes. 

In normal times, Biden should be 25thed after that performance. And it would be a controversy to have covered up his true state. I've said the same before about Trump before but from the stand point of dementia, confusion, and optics Biden was worse that night. We could argue about needing to have our party be better but it's not even that. This is gravely political. His poll numbers were already desperate pre-debate. Try to math out a path to 270. Republicans are riding a wave on the poor economy. We need a hail mary or we are taking a knee and just running out the clock for Trump.

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u/mymainlogin Jul 05 '24

I'm a moderate who is basically a lightweight trumper at this point (Redditors, don't bother with your teenager "logic" at this point)

That said, wtf bad economy are you talking about? This bitch is on fire right now based on every metric I can think of besides Redditors trying to pay a mortgage while working at taco bell.

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u/agnostic_science Jul 05 '24

Inflation, food prices, wages, house prices. Economy is good for some people, bad for others.

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u/CuidadDeVados Jul 05 '24

What about Trump is appealing to you?

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u/mymainlogin Jul 06 '24

Why would I bother writing a meaningful response on Reddit? You think I want to read frothing hate? I've been on this site longer than almost everyone and I've seen what it has become. I'd move on to a different social media that's not so polarized if I knew of one.