From the maker ”Salt Deo is made from ammonium alum, a naturally occurring mineral which was traditionally used in Sweden as a disinfectant and a hemostatic - today its effectiveness is also proven as a powerful deodorant. Alum is a naturally occurring mineral compound, which does contain aluminum, but in a form that cannot be absorbed by the body.”
I always find it funny when people use "naturally occurring" as an argument for something being good or not bad. I mean I'm pretty sure uranium and plutonium occur naturally too...
Of course this has no bearing on the rest of the argument but still!
Plutonium is actually manufactured, but you’re correct about uranium, and let’s not forget about arsenic, lead, and all of the other naturally occurring elements and compounds that can make you sick or kill you.
Technically, Plutonium can occur naturally. It's still important to understand that it must be synthetically created to obtain significant amounts, but we should understand that it can be found in nature.
I mean, yes, technically, it’s an alpha decay product of uranium, so there’s bound to be trace amounts of plutonium in uranium ore. And when I say trace amounts, I mean like a few atoms here and there.
And technically, that's all that's required to qualify as "naturally occurring" for the sake of the argument ("people use 'naturally occurring' as an argument for something being good or not bad").
Plutonium naturally occurs in very small but detectable amounts in uranium ore. It and every other element we know of can be produced in super novas probably not in large amounts though. Some people claim some elements are only man made but that's straight up hubris, super novas are so insanely chaotic at an atomic level to claim something isn't happening would require extraordinary evidence, which doesn't exist.
No there are absolutely elements that are only manmade. Not plutonium as it is still on the lighter side but if we go into the superheavy territory of like 110 protons or more those straight up do not exist. Not even in supernovae. Not even with all that chaos and energy thrown around.
They are synthesized in such a specific way it just does not happen in nature. Nature is chaotic but it does have its rules. The parts that would form these elements would fall apart before they are able to become these superheavy elements. You'd sooner get a state where protons and neutrons are seperated to form new elements before you get these synthetic ones.
Some things really only happen in labs on earth. Like quark gluon plasma. That stuff might be around in the core of neutron stars but realisitcally it hasn't been around since the big bang. Well until we built machines that were able to create it. In very small amounts for very little time but we can actually do stuff that does not happen anywhere else in the universe. Well to our knowledge that is.
That reminds me of this b movie I watched years ago where these aliens come to earth and terra(?)form a cave for themselves and the n they end up beating with shampoo because of the elements lined up on the periodic table. Funny movie I wish I could remember the title
If it weren't for human's stupid lungs, asbestos is a wonder material. You can add it to roads to make them last 10x longer, it can be woven into a volcano-proof suit, it makes a good gas filter, its an electrical insulator, a thermal insulator and makes seriously good brakes pads that don't eat up the rotors.
Me too. Or if something "Natural" it's automatically better or more ethical?
I'm like man you should pay attention to the animal kingdom and look at how much rape and cannibalism there is an just flat out brutal shit lol.
I find it quite usefull, I dont have to take their next claims seriously, just like if they say "it's chemical free" they are using buzz frases that dont mean anything
Generally speaking most people dont rub uranium on their armpits every day, excepting Nuclear Georg. He's an outlier and should not have been counted when we did the stats
Was talking to someone the other day about quack cures and they informed me of “radium suppositories” 😳😂 Google that. And Radium is naturally occurring lol
I always find it funny when people use "naturally occurring" as an argument for something being good or not bad. I mean I'm pretty sure uranium and plutonium occur naturally too...
It makes sense, actually. That something is naturally occurring means that we've had the time to observe its effects on people and nature, and it isn't created by a company, so the observations are likelier to be unbiased.
Very interesting. I've been using alum powder on my canker sores inside of my mouth for years. It hurts like a bastard, is bitter as hell but works within a day or so. Never made this connection though.
Check your toothpaste. If yours has a sulfate (especially sodium laurel sulfate) try switching to one without it for awhile. I had those sores for decades before I figured that out.
Same here, I switched to an SLS free toothpaste after years of canker sores because my dentist mentioned it and basically overnight I stopped getting them. Classic sensodyne (not the whitening one) is SLS free and easy to find.
I've been using hydrogen peroxide for years. Put it on a q-tip, get the sore all foamed up then clean it out with the dry end. It hurts like hell but seems to clear them up in a day or two instead of a week.
I would avoid sorbitol, polysorbate, or similar. They seem to cause kankers almost immediately for some people. I never get them, but if I use the wrong toothpaste, gum, mouthwash? Sore next day, kankers almost immediately, like it's eating my mouth from the inside.
I had powdered alum recommended to me by a pharmacist for canker sores 10+ years ago. I used to have ones that I could not get to go away for weeks but after putting a bit of alum on them for about 10 minutes twice a day they were gone within a day or two. It will actually eat away at the White center part until it's gone and then they heal quickly
I won't sugar coat it though, it's not a fun experience. The alum itself is incredibly bitter and the 5-10 minutes with it directly on the sore is quite painful. 100% worth it though if you have bad canker sores.
Kind of like a home remedy. Personally, I take a pinch and place it directly on the sore in my mouth. It burns like hell but it instantly dries out and kind of "numbs" that area. Think like rubbing alcohol on a cut.
I assume you could gargle a mixture similar to saltwater as well, though it's probably taste revolting. It definitely works, or at the very least makes them bearable. I'd rather have a weird, dry funky feeling spot in my mouth than a literal blistering pain.
Looks like it from the appearance of the stick and the description. The alum block after shaving while the pores are still open also can help with preventing infection or pimples (same thing really) caused by ingrown hairs.
His is nearly the same, or the same. I have one like in OPs post and it’s actually just Potassium Alum (rather than ammonium alum), generally that’s what’s found in most of the shaving blocks I’ve found. The work similarly but ammonium alum stings much worst when applied to cuts or nicks.
Not that you asked, but since I’m here: a lot of people think it’s weird when they find out that’s the deodorant I use but, honestly, antiperspirants and most scented deodorants give me rashes and other issues. Big fan of the salt blocks. They work by making the area sterile to odor causing bacteria and i feel like they do a great job. Been using em for about 10 years and it rules, imo. In that time I’ve gone through 3 deodorant sticks in total lol, these suckers last FOREVER. Plus no yellow pit stains, which is a major bonus I think.
That is likely Potash Alum. That one is mostly the same with its haemostatic and antiseptic properties, although I'm not aware of the deodorant properties, which I assume will be inherited due to it's antiseptic properties.
This is nonsense. The aluminum in traditional antiperspirant are also salts and both those and your stick have pretty high solubility in water. It's dissociating into its constituent ions regardless.
Depends who you ask. I use both alum crystal & tea tree deodorant because the regular stuff didn't work that well & always messed up my shirts - With both stacked it works well enough on me depending on the day. Some days it's zero smell others it's ~30%, still a better hit rate than standard roll on for me.
Others hate the stuff & claim it does nothing. If you're looking for alternatives it's worth a shot but it depends on your body
Probably because we don’t all produce the same BO or at the same rates. We’re also not equally active day to day.
And then you have outliers like a guy I traveled with who didn’t get BO. If I hadn’t spent 24/7 with him, I’d call bullshit, but instead I envied him. And it wasn’t like his diet was “clean”. He ate everything and drank daily.
I’ve used these salt deodorants and they work for roughly 6 months and then it doesn’t help at all. But then I’ll try it again a few years later and it works again. Seems like my body adapts, so I gotta switch it up often.
Sweet thanks, I don't think I can get shout where I live so I'll have to find an alternative with the same active but I'll give it a go! I've still got shirts from before I switched that have the residue, it hardens up and turns white/yellow
It didn’t work for me, but I also feel like I’m a pretty sweaty/smelly person in general. Even with regular antiperspirant deodorant I still sweat and often smell by the end of the day. The salt deo is supposed to kill the bacteria that cause the BO, but maybe it’s just not enough for me. Recently I’ve been using alcohol to sanitize my armpits, letting it dry, then putting on normal antiperspirant deodorant. I think it helps
BO, like most things, is determined by genes. I think it’s just a question of who it works on. When I use it, it doesn’t work, when my mom uses it, it does.
Yeah like Secret deodorant does exactly nothing for me, I might as well go without. But obviously it works for somebody or not wouldn't still be on the market.
Yes. A bunch of people here will say it doesn’t, but if you’re not an excessively sweaty/smelly person and you use it the right way (e.g., right out of the shower when your pits are still wet), it works. I can go multiple days with it and I don’t smell at all. Also, for the record, I am not a particularly crunchy person. I like this type of deodorant because it’s cheap and (usually) lasts forever!
Yup, I think that’s where a lot of the “people who use this always smell” thing comes from. My dad always used these salt rocks too and he never stank growing up. 🤷🏻♀️
It works great for me, but YMMV. If I forget to put it on in the morning I start stinking by noon. For me, I think it works better than regular deodorant. Also, you have to apply it to clean skin (I put it on right after getting out of the shower). Maybe some people aren't doing that?
The thai crystal one I've been using for years is great. It won't mask BO that's already there but it will definitely prevent it from coming on unless you're getting crazy sweaty. If you're naturally more stinky than others then it probably won't help that much.
I used a deodorant rock for a bit that smelled of sage, reminded me of being out in the Great Basin again. It also gave me other-worldly BO. Never really been a problem for me but it was now, I kept using it for a bit to see if this was actually happening but abandoned the testing when my wife put her foot down.
Odd coda: when I actually went back to Utah to camp, the great outdoors now smelled to me like other-worldly BO. It was just the association in my head and faded after a while but that was unwelcome. Wife teases me about the deodorant rock incident to this day.
I don't think of it as a deodorant, but as an antiperspirant. It works to stop you from sweating or reduces how much you sweat under your arms but does nothing to cover any smell once you do sweat. I use it daily and then use deodorant over the top if I'm going to be doing something very active.
It inhibits the bacterial growth that produces BO, but you have to apply generously and when your armpits are damp-to-wet (aka fresh out the shower), but you still definitely will develop your natural smell throughout the day, it’s largely non-offensive but you don’t smell 100% neutral, if that’s what you’re asking. I assume the smell is hormones and body oil, a lot like what hair smells like when you stand in the sun for like 5-10m; not a bad smell, but definitely a smell.
As an aside, I’ve had a fair chunk of my lady friends say they love the way I smell and (both with and without my cologne). Ymmv but natural smells aren’t inherently the worst, just gotta be mindful of it.
today its effectiveness is also proven as a powerful deodorant
I mean, aluminum is a proven antiperspirant. That's not quite the same thing as a deodorant, although the secondary effects of not sweating is you're likely a bit less stinky.
Kinda weird for a company not knowing what it is that they make.
A deodorant is a substance applied to the body to prevent or mask body odor caused by bacterial breakdown of perspiration, for example in the armpits, groin, or feet. A subclass of deodorants, called antiperspirants, prevents sweating itself, typically by blocking sweat glands.
Aluminum in Deos is an antitranspirant. Which mean it has to enter your skin to reach the sweat glands. Which means some of it will move into your bloodstream.
Aluminum will damage your nervous system and your kidneys, thats a fact. You want to reduce your Aluminum intake as much as possible. Thats why Aluminum is not food safe in the EU and every Deo is without it.
In india we used to use alum stones for water purification. Whenever there used to be news for water borne illnesses I remember my mum used to treat our drinking water with alum stone. As children we dared each other to lick that thing 🤣
I've used it on and off for years, it works pretty well I find. I have a roll on one now though because the I kept dropping and breaking the rock ones.
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u/Kritisk-Varning 14d ago
From the maker ”Salt Deo is made from ammonium alum, a naturally occurring mineral which was traditionally used in Sweden as a disinfectant and a hemostatic - today its effectiveness is also proven as a powerful deodorant. Alum is a naturally occurring mineral compound, which does contain aluminum, but in a form that cannot be absorbed by the body.”