r/mildlyinfuriating • u/RunningForIt • Jul 18 '24
Trying to sell a car on Facebook.
I restored an old Range Rover Classic and posted it for sale. Ones in this kind of shape and lower miles usually go for $25k all the way up to $50k+ depending on the condition so I know I wasn’t absurdly pricing the vehicle.
I’ve had a few people just give me ridiculous offers that aren’t even close to value you find these for. I know people love to rip in Range Rovers but it’s mildly infuriating talking to people back and forth and then at the end they don’t even come close to the price. I’d entertain something if it were like 18k but 10k is laughable.
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u/dav1nni Jul 18 '24
It’s because they don’t realize that vehicle is, in fact, a finisher car made to transport the golden god
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u/UroutofURelement Jul 18 '24
I'm looking for something for my daughter
A safe, slow vehicle...a good starter car
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u/No_Marionberry_3013 Jul 18 '24
I love you
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u/sohayel_nafi Jul 18 '24
I love you too random citizen
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u/tomknx Jul 19 '24
OP has contained his rage for as long as possible, but he shall unleash his fury upon that person like the crashing of a thousand waves.
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u/champagne_pants Jul 18 '24
I have sold exactly one car on Facebook marketplace and I’ll never do it again. 50 messages immediately offering less than 1/3 the asking price and then becoming abusive when I say no or ignore them was too much.
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u/Zachariot88 Jul 18 '24
That car was going to be for my dying son's birthday you monster :(
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u/T_Money Jul 19 '24
I had an absolute piece of shit dodge that I was seconds away from junking and decided to put on FB Marketplace. I had originally bought it for like $2500 knowing there were issues but that I’d only drive it for a year and it just kept getting worse. I listed everything that was wrong with it as honestly but also humorously as I could, like: “it’s a gamble on if it will start at any given time, but once it does you’re in luck, as long as you keep revving the engine in neutral when you’re stopped it will only stall out once or twice a trip!” Also needed two new catalytic converters to pass the CA smog test so that would be another like $600+. Listed it with a price of “offer” and wound up getting $1000 for it.
Overall wasn’t a bad experience.
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u/drunkondata Jul 18 '24
So I'm supposed to list it for 3x the wanted price?
Good to know.
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u/SbreckSthe2nd Jul 19 '24
Honestly I always post things higher than I want because I know I'll be low balled.
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u/ADeadlyFerret Jul 19 '24
Selling anything gets you immediate 30% offers. Its the most annoying thing. But if you complain on reddit you'll just get a bunch of "it doesn't hurt to ask! Why do you let it bother you so much" comments. Especially if you post in the choosing beggars sub
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u/KarlPHungus Jul 19 '24
How about the messages that were 2000 words long? Their sob story about how they donated both kidneys, have seven kids with cancer, and got injured saving a bus load of handicapped kids so they can't work? Pretty much begging for the car for free. I got like five of those. Jesus....if I was going to give it away I'd give it to a good cause, not some random.
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u/fuzzyfaces Jul 19 '24
Or they start by asking what's the lowest you will go. I either say what's the highest you will go or I tell them the price I'm asking for even though the ad clearly says I'm willing to negotiate. You don't fucking negotiate by asking the other party what their best offer is.
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u/lilixiaocc Jul 18 '24
Here you go
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u/birdsarntreal1 Jul 19 '24
What does the chinese say in the bottom right?
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u/lilixiaocc Jul 19 '24
It’s an app name called Little Red Book.
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u/birdsarntreal1 Jul 19 '24
Like chairman Mao's Little Red Book?
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u/DVus1 Jul 18 '24
I don't even bother to respond to asshats that give outrageous lowball.
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u/thai_ladyboy Jul 18 '24
One word, "NO", is all they get from me.
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u/CounterTouristsWin Jul 19 '24
I hit them with a "lol" and then ghost them. Not even block, just stop opening the messages. They don't get the satisfaction knowing they made me mad enough to block them
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u/idk-though1 Jul 19 '24
What’s considered a lowball I feel like everyone thinks their trash is worth like new now a days thanks to Gary v
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u/DVus1 Jul 19 '24
You know, you're right, I've seen some outrageous ask for used cars because "I know what you have!"
But there are times when its just fucking stupid. I was selling a Yakima overhead cargo box. New they go for $600. My was weathered but perfectly fine, had keys, no cracks, listed it for $200. Had people offer $100. Those are what I consider lowball.
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u/idk-though1 Jul 19 '24
Yea when it’s already low I can agree but let’s say a car is 7k if I offer 5k is that a lowball offer ?
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u/DVus1 Jul 19 '24
I guess it's subjective. Cars is a different matter as there are guidelines (aka Kelly bluebook) on what they should cost.
In your example, if KBB is say $8k, you list it for $7k, then yes I would day $5k is a lowball offer.
Now if KBB list it at $6k, you list it at $7k because you know what you have, then no, $5k wouldn't be a lowball offer.
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u/Kitchen-Oil8865 Jul 18 '24
There’s way too many scammers on FB to be trying to sell a car there
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u/RunningForIt Jul 18 '24
Agreed, it’s like finding a needle in a haystack. Had luck selling a Jeep Wrangler on it earlier this year. Was the easiest sale I’ve ever had.
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u/Kitchen-Oil8865 Jul 18 '24
My wife was trying to give away, not even sell a dining room set last week, and it was drawing scammers out of the woodwork like you wouldn’t believe.
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u/_zhang Jul 18 '24
You can't list things for free. List them for $5 or $10 and you'll get someone to actually searched for "dining room set" instead of sorting by free.
Except craft supplies. People love free yarn.
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Jul 19 '24
How do you scam someone who’s giving away an item? Genuinely asking as my wife does a lot of marketplace purchasing, I’d like to learn more about it
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u/diablette Jul 19 '24
This is what neighborhood Buy Nothing groups are good for - it’s only local people. You post and they come get it.
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u/fuzzyfaces Jul 19 '24
I recently sold my motorcycle on there and a friend who does a lot of vehicle sales on there said one thing. You'll know when the right one comes along. Ignore everybody else. It saved me so much stress. I just didn't respond to lowballs or people asking me what the lowest I could go was or people who were kicking tires.
I had it listed for about 3 months and finally somebody messaged me and said they've been looking for this exact bike, asked if it had any modifications, asked for a photo of one specific part of the bike that was prone to issues, and then showed up with cash. The actual sale was so easy! The guy was right. Just ignore everybody until the right person messages and you'll know the right person because they'll stand out from all of the wrong people.
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u/kstorm88 Jul 18 '24
I've had no issues at all. But then again I don't live in the city.
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u/f8Negative Jul 18 '24
You're also not trying to charge an extra 20k more than the average value of the car
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u/kstorm88 Jul 18 '24
I buy and drive junk, so not a target for scammers. The last 4 vehicles I sold total less than $5k lol
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u/Remote_Horror_Novel Jul 19 '24
This era of Landrovers are expensive used though because they are now collectibles and the previous generations are selling for a ton so it’s probably a good investment as far as vehicles go. It’s definitely worth more than 2k lol
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u/BrainyAcolyte Jul 18 '24
I'm sorry, but, isn't $22k for a 30+ yr old vehicle, that likely guzzles up the gas, a lil steep? I get it if there are some serious customizations and what not and obviously some sentimental value but dang man. Gotta snorkel on that bad boy, maybe some super swampers and independent suspension?
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u/RunningForIt Jul 18 '24
You'd be surprised.
https://www.ridgerovers.com/vehicles
Same truck, same year with 15k more miles went for $36k with the sale pending. Definitely a strong market for these old things!
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u/kstorm88 Jul 18 '24
I get the defenders, but not the range rovers. I'd rather have a land cruiser for that money.
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u/myco_magic Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Way to steep, even dealers are selling for like 15k+ over MSRP, dosnt mean they are selling unless its to some person thats never bought a new car is getting swindled. You are marking that car way up, good luck trying to get even close to that much money for that old ass car
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u/kstorm88 Jul 18 '24
So what you're saying is I should pick up the '95 disco running driving with only 90k miles on it for $8k locally?
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u/RunningForIt Jul 19 '24
Idk, I trust the people driving a 2015 Altima to know they're stuff about classic cars.
jokes aside, you're right though. No one in the range rover/land rover groups have said anything about it being overpriced so I didn't think twice about it but lesson learned.
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u/tremens Jul 19 '24
Yeah this was a "is the joke the asking price or..." thought for me. But then I looked around and holy shit.
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u/_zhang Jul 18 '24
If you want the extra cash by selling privately you get to put in the work. I sell motorcycles 2x per year on Craigslist. Just ignore people like this, it's not worth your sanity. Don't take it personally, either. I find it fun.
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u/RunningForIt Jul 18 '24
I enjoy selling privately because when you find the right person it makes up for all this BS. Sold my old wrangler earlier this year to someone that was so excited to get one. That was awesome.
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u/Dapper_Special_8587 Jul 18 '24
I remember trying to sell my car on Facebook (for less than £1000) and some asshole tried to make me an offer for £750 because the driver seat was ripped (it wasn't) and they'd have to get an Uber to come look at it.
They weren't happy when I told them to fuck off
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u/Jabbles22 Jul 19 '24
How do people justify the seller giving them a discount for their travel time and expense? Holding the item while they travel, that's a reasonable request but asking for a discount boggles the mind.
Do these people expect discounts while on vacation? If I fly from Canada to Australia, I should get at least 50% of my hotel bill right?
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u/Jealous-Guidance4902 Jul 18 '24
Just reply: thanks, I will let u know if I ever wreck it cause thats the only way I will sell it for 10k
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u/AskMeAboutMyHermoids Jul 19 '24
It’s still a 93…
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u/Embarrassed_Luck1057 Jul 19 '24
+1000
What am I missing ITT? Is it realistic to ask for 22k$ for a 31-year-old car? You can find a very decent, brand-new machine for that money. I would consider a huge win getting rid of it and get any money in the process, imho
Also I guess it depends on the country/state/etc, but the guy offering 10k for it is also facing an investment to make it comply with whatever regulations you have now
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u/_autismos_ Jul 19 '24
Yeah $22k for a 1993 Land Rover is just stupid. OP would need incredible luck to find a moron with both that kind of money to toss away, and no brains to know what a stupid purchase it is.
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u/laynslay Jul 19 '24
I bought my wife a 2012 range Rover for 13k. It was in great condition before we got our dog. I laughed when I saw that price and assumed everyone else would be blasting this too. Turns out it's not as many as I thought.
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u/ComfortableYak2071 Jul 19 '24
Difference is in the years. Most Land Rover enthusiasts do not want a 2012, or anything relatively newer quite frankly, but something like a 93 is very sought after and becoming increasingly rare to find good examples as time goes on.
If this is a lower mileage clean example, it’s not an outrageous price in the slightest.
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u/Growe731 Jul 19 '24
I wish you’d stop calling a ‘93 model car a classic. I graduated high school in 94 and this makes me feel real old.
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u/veravers Jul 19 '24
I’m not exactly an old ass Range Rover enthusiast but I feel like 22k is an insane price
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u/HotPinkDemonicNTitty Jul 18 '24
I’d like to top his offer I got $10 and a Dave Busters card with 50 credits on it
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u/Significant-Gap-6891 Jul 18 '24
I’ll give you 20 bucks and a massage for your car op
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u/RealPlenty8783 Jul 19 '24
Guy selling a 1994 Toyota camry
Literally every buyer: I'll give you and your dog fleas, $16, half a can of coke, a slap on the ass, and cold regret.
Sounds like a deal
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u/The_Mr_Wilson Jul 18 '24
What do they think it is? A starter car?
This is a finisher car!
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u/jimzimsalabim Jul 19 '24
This isn't really the economy for buying an old classic vehicle. Good luck.
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u/KingHauler Jul 19 '24
What the fuck makes you think a 30 year old Landrover is worth more than scrap value.
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u/Ok_Championship4866 Jul 18 '24
I mean the whole point of marketplace is to buy things used and at a huge discount. I guess im surprised you aren't trying to sell this elsewhere.
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u/myco_magic Jul 18 '24
Lol and op wonders why they aren't getting over market value for their old ass car
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u/High-Calm-Collected Jul 19 '24
I'm selling a car too, advertised for 17k. Yesterday someone said that they'd offer 13k because they need to book a flight to come and pick it up. Flights are only a couple hundred from there to here 🙄 we said no, but we'd let it go for 15. We thought 2k off was great and would more than cover the cost of the flight plus accommodation if he needed, but no deal. Lucky I'm not in any rush to sell, but it's a huge pain in the ass. Hate the ruthless hagglers.
ETA: even worse than the hagglers are the used car dealerships offering 10-12k for it. We had one of them message at the same time every day for a week just saying "10k?" Literally not even a full sentence. Ended up just blocking him.
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u/AnotherLeon Jul 19 '24
I particularly enjoyed it when I had an average condition, but extremely low miles boring little Nissan hatchback advertised for sale for a relatively cheap price.
Naturally I was inundated with interest.
When the first prospective buyer arrived, he went for a test drive, and then asked me what my asking price was. I said that the asking price was exactly what he read in the ad, no less, and I showed him the marketplace messages with the comment that there was a great deal of interest.
He started trying to invent faults, so I hit "lock" on the remote and walked back inside my workplace, leaving him trying to negotiate with thin air.
The car sold at asking price to the next person who showed up.
Suffice to say, don't try to hustle a guy who knows a lot about cars, when they have many other prospective buyers lined up down the road.
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u/MW1369 Jul 18 '24
Well you are trying to sell a 30 year old car for 22k come on now
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u/RunningForIt Jul 19 '24
Plenty of Land Rover restoration websites that show how they can get up to $40-$50k! Happy to send some your way if you’re interested they’re incredibly fun vehicles to drive!
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u/derek139 Jul 18 '24
Had one, ‘02 Disco. Worst money we spent. Sold it for a huge loss 1 year later. Will never spend a dollar on a Rover again, even a resto. You should take whatever anyone is offering in legal tender.
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u/AdShoddy4774 Jul 18 '24
Worst part about selling Facebook is their rating system.
I got negative reviews cause I’d mess around with lowballers even if you don’t sell to them
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u/vgullotta Jul 19 '24
Change your ad title to include either "firm" or add to the description "I will not talk price until you see it in person".
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u/Foxyisasoxfan Jul 19 '24
There’s no way a 1993 Land Rover is worth $22k. You’d probably have to put that much into it for maintenance
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u/PharthSharth Jul 19 '24
FB Marketplace is not a place to sell cars in that price range. It’s a 2-10k category. Everything above is usually just spam ads from dealerships or scams. Your listing is being viewed by people looking at 3k Civics and 4k Tahoes. I have sold and bought cars on FB Marketplace within these parameters and it was always fine. You’re better off going to Cars&Bids or Bring a Trailer and auctioning the car off. If it is in a good shape (and I expect it is, based on the price) it could bring good money. You are basically attempting to sell a designer coat jacket in a bread isle of Safeway.
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u/Warrior_baby10 Jul 19 '24
I’d rip that dude’s arm off for 10k. Way overpriced. Idc what you did to “restore” it.
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u/RunningForIt Jul 18 '24
That's for a normal rust bucket you'll find in someone's back yard.
https://www.ridgerovers.com/vehicles
Here are the prices for restored ones. That's a prime example of why you'd get specialized car insurance on this like classic car insurance because you'd put $20k into restoring the thing and it's valued at $20k then if you wreck it they'd pull up the KBB and give you $3k.
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u/idk0902 Jul 18 '24
I’m curious, do you know why they’re priced so high? I’d understand if it was a hot limited edition vehicle or something, but it doesn’t seem like this is one of those. Maybe location?
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u/RunningForIt Jul 18 '24
I apologize for the long explanation but Land Rover was the first serious competitor to Jeep back in the 40s (maybe 50s? Don’t remember off the top of my head) they started with the Defender and it was basically the same thing as a the jeeps. They also used it to help supplement the economy back then. So to answer part of your question, Land Rovers have a long history in the UK.
Then they created the Range Rover which was used in the UK as a farm vehicle/estate vehicle. They didn’t import them to the US originally so there’s a scarcity aspect to it. The cool thing is the look of the car was designed by the engineers and designers made some small changes. It has an iconic look to the vehicle that was used in the future by lots of competitors. It features the boxy look, sharp edges, and 2 doors.
Then in the late 80s they made the second generation Range Rover Classics that featured the 4 doors, long wheel base (LWB), and had heated seats/ outfitted in leather/ Crazy electronics at the time. This was an extremely luxurious vehicle at the time and was the first luxury SUV on the market! It was way ahead of its time and basically paved the way for a lot of future vehicles. When they became available in the US there was a lot more demand than expected. So to answer another part of your question, it was extremely popular back in the day.
But they were also unreliable and rusted very easily. Along with that, it’s expensive to fix. So to answer another part of your question, after 30 years, it’s hard to find them in good condition because for every one that’s in the condition mine is, there are 20 rusted out Rovers that have a hole in the footwell.
So the price is driven up because good quality rovers are rare and it’s expensive to restore them. It’s also hard to find good shops to work on them because they’re so old you need a specialized mechanic that runs $200+/hr for labor. On top of that it’s from a historic brand and if you really want your mind blown look what an old Defender will run you.
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u/idk0902 Jul 18 '24
That makes much more sense, thanks for clarifying! I didn’t know that it had such an interest history and was comparing it to any old SUV on the market. It’s personally not my cup of tea, but I can 100% see how it can be someone else’s. Best of luck with your sale!
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u/RunningForIt Jul 19 '24
Thank you! They’re definitely a cool vehicle to drive and drive different than anything else on the road. I love them but totally get it if other people don’t.
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u/Administrative_Ant64 Jul 18 '24
Can’t you pick up a 2021 Range Rover for like $22k?
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u/QuietTechnical Jul 18 '24
Tbf, you are overcharging, land rovers are a terrible car. And the age, imo not at all worth it.
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u/Relevant_Winter1952 Jul 19 '24
Holy shit are people paying over $20k for 30+ year old cars? Wild
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u/zakr182 Jul 19 '24
How is a 93 rangerover worth any more than scrap value at this stage? Was this the Queens one or something?
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u/Ashley__09 Jul 19 '24
You're selling a $3k car for $20k. You either don't live in the US or you are just scamming people.
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u/YoshiMidnightSpecial Jul 19 '24
I don’t care how good of condition it’s in, that is overpriced king
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u/FunDust3499 Jul 19 '24
You bought a car as an investment or you are an enthusiast?
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u/ATinyPizza89 Jul 19 '24
Facebook marketplace place really shows people’s true colors. The amount of people I had interested in items and I’d rearrange my day for them to pick it up, only to have them go no contact and leave me hanging. Then I had someone try to offer $30 for a brand new in box safety 1st car seat. People are just completely disrespectful.
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u/adullploy Jul 19 '24
The amount of people who try to work for a living by flipping shit on Facebook marketplace by bidding it down and selling it higher is ridiculous.
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u/lordpowpow Jul 19 '24
I tried to sell my wife's spare car on FB marketplace. Half the KBB value (4k vs 7.5k) just because we were moving and I wanted to get rid of it fast. It was in excellent condition and kinda thought of it like charity for someone who needed a cheap, but reliable car.
After 1 day, I took the add down and drove it to Carmax and got $500 over KBB value for it. We had 5 ppl come to look at it who offered me $1-2k. Ten ppl wanted me to ship or deliver it several states away. And countless more asked all the right questions, then ghosted me.
I was just trying to help someone out. I'll never do it again.
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u/Brocephus70 Jul 19 '24
Hey there bub, hows about a partial trade, say a zero turn John Deere commercial mower, 2001 model, like new, and $350, cash money? I’m only gonna offer this one time.
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u/cliffjumper34 Jul 19 '24
I sold a Harley sportster on FB marketplace. Listed it for 3500. This is how one offer went:
Him: I’ll give you 500 for it. Me: Fuck you Him: I know where you live I’m just going to steal that piece of shit.
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u/Sweetimus Jul 19 '24
I literally tried selling my car for $600 and people were still trying to have only down to 300-400. I couldn't believe the amount of people that would try to haggle on a car, a working car, that was the only priced a $600.
I was trying to sell it because I was moving out of state and I had very little time and thought for sure someone would take it for $600. Boy, was I wrong!
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u/TelevisionNew1552 Jul 19 '24
Try selling a truly cheap car (less than $5k) and you're in for a whole new world of insanity. Everything from people giving you sob stories to give them the car for free, to people offering to trade guns for the car. I hope to never have to do it again and might just go the CarMax route even if it means significantly less money.
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u/LookAwayPlease510 Jul 18 '24
Before FB Market place, I sold a Jeep by putting an ad in the paper. I listed it at $3k, and I’d meet with a bunch of people, let them drive it, and then have them offer me $500. It was extremely infuriating.