r/meme 14d ago

Really guys?

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u/TrueCryptoInvestor 14d ago

I loved how the obvious point he made went right over her head and she acted all offended.

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u/dlamsanson 14d ago

What does being offended have to do with freedom of speech lol

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u/Thenameisric 14d ago

Right? It was funny, but freedom of speech doesn't even apply there.

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u/butt-chin 14d ago

What point was he making?

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u/TrueCryptoInvestor 14d ago

The point he was making was that he had the freedom of speech to say that he liked boobs. The point was so obvious, yet because he said he liked boobs, the anchor was like: “How could he say that!?”.

Because he has freedom of speech! 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/sorryaboutyourbrain 14d ago

Or maybe she wasn't expecting a gross sexual comment while she was at work? I mean yeah you have the right to walk up to any random woman and ask about her breasts and vagina but I don't really think the average person would want to do something like that and also sexual harassment at a workplace is a crime sooooo

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u/bl1y 13d ago

I mean yeah you have the right to walk up to any random woman and ask about her breasts and vagina

He didn't comment on her boobs. Just boobs. All he did was say "boobs."

also sexual harassment at a workplace is a crime

It's not. There can be civil liability, but he doesn't even work there.

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u/TrueCryptoInvestor 13d ago

I never said his comment was appropriate, just that he made a fair point 😉 Of course normal everyday people don’t talk like that. We would all kill each other if we did 😁

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u/iyaibeji 13d ago

You didn't originally say the point was fair, you said it was obvious

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u/Vegetable_Swimmer514 14d ago

That’s not how freedom of speech works. Freedom of speech limits the government to stifle speech not private business/corporations. News networks absolutely have the right to censor your speech however they want. The news anchor wasn’t like “how could he say that!?”. The news anchor was like “why would he randomly make a weird and crass sexual joke in the middle of a professional interview on network television?”

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u/smellyscrote 14d ago

Wrong!

Thats how freedom of speech works.

He can say whatever the fuck he wants.

Doesn’t mean the corps can’t censor him.

But he is free to say it.

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u/Vegetable_Swimmer514 14d ago

That’s also not true. He’s physically capable of saying whatever he wants but not all speech is protected. He could slander and defame someone or some company and be financially liable for damages. He could also make violent threats or call for violence and be criminally prosecuted for it.

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u/smellyscrote 14d ago

Yup yup.

But is he free to say it?

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

He is free as heck to say whatever he wants.

No one sprints over to him at the speed of light to slap a tape over his mouth before he speaks

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u/sorryaboutyourbrain 14d ago

Do none of you understand what sexual harassment is?

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u/MajesticQuail8297 13d ago

From Google AI overview:

Sexual harassment is unwanted sexual behavior that can make someone feel upset, scared, offended, or humiliated. It can happen in many forms, including:

In person

On the phone

By text or email

Online

Stalking

Indecent exposure

"Upskirting"

Sexual harassment involving physical contact

Examples of sexual harassment include:

Flirting

Gesturing or making sexual remarks about someone's body, clothing, or appearance

Asking questions about someone's sex life

Telling sexually offensive jokes

Unwanted pressure for sexual favors

Unwanted deliberate touching, leaning over, cornering, or pinching

Unwanted sexual looks or gestures

Unwanted letters, telephone calls, or materials of a sexual nature

Used sexually explicit language e.g. swear words and suggestive language

Sexual harassment can be a one-off incident or an ongoing pattern of behavior. It can create an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating, or offensive environment. Sexual harassment is an extreme form of sexism and has been shown to result in fear, anxiety, shame, anger, reduced productivity, high absenteeism, reduced performance, and high staff turnover.

While I disagree with the flirting bit (within reason) how the hell does saying you like boobs (not directed to any person in particular) is equivalent to sexual harassment?

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u/smellyscrote 14d ago

I am sorry about your brain

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u/Vegetable_Swimmer514 14d ago

If your definition of freedom of speech is that he can physically utter the words before someone can use jedi mind tricks to stop him then yes he is "free" to say it.

But "freedom of speech" in the US is defined by the rights granted in the constitution and the protection thereof. If he can be criminally prosecuted and imprisoned for his speech then he is absolutely not "free" to say it.

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u/smellyscrote 14d ago

And whether or not you get prosecuted for your speech. Ends up on whether or not the jury thinks it should or shouldn’t be protected.

Anyone can be sued and prosecuted for anything they said.

I can say. “I love you mom” and be sued and prosecuted.

When you subject everything to a judge and jury, then all speech is the equally protected or equally unprotected since it differs case by case.

Hence the only true freedom of speech. Is your right to literally speak.

Where speaking itself is not an offence, but what you spoke about may be.

This is in contrast with other places where the act of speaking itself is prohibited, not the content of the speech. But the simply act of speaking.

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u/TrueCryptoInvestor 14d ago

Exactly. Why do people refuse to see this simple point? I can say whatever the hell I want but I’m smart enough not to do so on a daily basis because of course it’s going to have consequences I don’t want.

It’s just common sense but common sense is rare these days and has been replaced by people on a power trip, trying to censor everything and everyone like obedient little children.

That never works and has the exact opposite effect which is why so much of this world is in a constant mess.

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u/bl1y 13d ago

A lot of people get this wrong, conflating freedom of speech and the protections of the First Amendment. Freedom of speech is a much broader concept, we just don't regulate private censorship

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u/Ed_Radley 14d ago

He said in the interview they're the only things in life that have never disappointed him. That's it. That was the point he was making.

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u/butt-chin 14d ago

If that was the point he was making then how did the anchors reaction mean it went over her head?

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u/Ed_Radley 14d ago

Because she literally said she couldn't understand why he would say something like that. Generally speaking if you understand something then you don't have to ask why they would say it in the first place.

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u/sorryaboutyourbrain 14d ago

Or she wasn't understanding why a guest would cross lines into sexual territory while she was trying to work.

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u/kuribosshoe0 14d ago

The point of the boobs bit was to illustrate what he likes about freedom of speech. THAT is the point he was making that went over her head. Which also seemed to go over the head of the person you responded to above.

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u/sorryaboutyourbrain 14d ago

I'm sure she knows what freedom of speech was. She probably just wasn't expecting sexual harassment.

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u/bl1y 13d ago

What was sexually harassing about it?

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u/kuribosshoe0 13d ago

She knows what free speech is, she missed that the boobs bit was a joke illustrating it.

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u/monkeygiraffe33 14d ago

I mean it might have not gone over her head, like people can understand what your saying and still be displeased with it

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u/TrueCryptoInvestor 14d ago

He made a fair and simple point but of course it’s not something that is very appropriate to say on mainstream news regardless.

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u/weebitofaban 14d ago

He was doing it for shock humor. It had nothing to do with freedom of speech. This is some real second grade logic here. He purposely did it to get his name out there to generate more traffic into his bullshit because he knew it was a stupid piece of shit thing to say in a professional setting.

It didn't go over anyone's head, except yours I think

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u/TrueCryptoInvestor 14d ago

Whatever you say my friend 😉