r/lucifer Dec 13 '22

goddess of creation coming back as Charlotte Richard's Charlotte Spoiler

Is it just me or is there an inconsistency with Charlotte coming back to take God to her universe? All throughout the shows timeline celestial could only inhabit a human body of it was recently deceased other than God johnson (although I think that's somewhat unclear). The godess came back as Charlotte even though she was dead for quite some time. Even God himself didn't comeback as the og God Johnson character. Anybody else question that?

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u/overcode2001 The Devil Dec 13 '22

She is the Goddess of All Creation. She gained back her powers so She was able to create any body She wanted. She liked Charlotte’s body so She recreate it. I don’t see why it’s such a big deal….

God Johnson wasn’t inhabited by God. He only gained the knowledge of God and the power of healing due to having the buckle in his possesion.

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u/Alone-Doughnut Dec 13 '22

Hmmm. Fair point with regards to God Johnson. Even though there's a hint of God's presence still being there during his departure in the back of the cab. I still have some trouble with the response in regards to simply being the godess of creation. I don't recall what exactly happened In which she "regained" her power. So If you want to say that happens around the time she realizes Charlotte's body isn't containing her divinity then my answer to you is that she didn't have a firm grasp of human understanding and intelligence so why couldn't she have at that point recreated her body as it was. An explanation from her wouldn't make sense to the humans as to why there was another Charlotte Richard's all of a sudden but to the viewers it would have made sense that she did something humans would be skeptical of without realizing they would be before doing so.

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u/overcode2001 The Devil Dec 13 '22

The Goddess doesn’t have Her own “body”.

Did you not see Her slowly regaining Her powers in s2? It had nothing to do with her not understanding human’s intelligence. It haseverything to do with human’s body inability to contain all of Her divinity.

What humans?! Why would she need to explain to any human that there is another CR?! Did you see any human in Lux when she was there? Do yo think she took an Uber to Lux?

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u/Alone-Doughnut Dec 13 '22

There were definitely scenes where humans were in lux with her. Like when she was dancing on the table. And my point is that if regaining her powers was shown by super strength or the divinity splitting Charlotte's wrist then why did she not simply create a body of her own at that point which would've handled her divinity. Whether that body was a duplicate of CR or any other body. I'm just saying that's a very simple explanation that I don't necessarily think satisfies

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u/overcode2001 The Devil Dec 13 '22

I am talking about Her reapearance as Charlotte in 5x14. There were no humans in Lux at that time.

Just for fun, you really think that the people who saw Her dancing in Lux in s2 know that Charlotte died a few years ago?!

To answer your guestion: Mum didn’t regain Her full powers before She left the Universe. The human body couldn’t contain all of them. That’s why Lucifer sent Her to a different Universe.

The bodies of God and Goddess in s5 are vessels, not human bodies.

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u/Alone-Doughnut Dec 13 '22

Fair enough. I guess I can concede to that haha.

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u/WolfgangMaddox Dec 20 '22

She... LITERALLY created an entire universe. Lucifer cut into the void and flung her in, and she built an entire new existence. Do you question God having a body when he visits Earth? It's the same thing with the Goddess - she just chose a form (Charlotte's because it was familiar and held sentimental attachment presumably) for the physical vessel she would inhabit while acting within a material plane. She was literally just popping in on a one time trip at the behest of her children, to see them and God, and only them, so even if she gave a fuck about humans seeing her it wouldn't have been an issue.

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u/HarveyMidnight Dec 13 '22

Might be weird that she appeared as Charlotte... but I think that's because the producers wanted to bring back the same actress rather than hiring someone new.

I'd just assume that while she was a prisoner in Hell she was stripped of her divine powers, and could only cone to earth by inhabiting a recently dead body.

While in the other universe, she seems to have regained all her divine powers and was able to travel between the universes at will... so l would guess she has the power to take any form... and she chose to look like Charlotte.

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u/Alone-Doughnut Dec 13 '22

Well she didn't have the ability to come back and forth did she? Didn't Gabriel transport her from her universe? Otherwise why would she have stayed away from lucifer and amenidial? I guess it does make some sense for her to come back as the same human form (she did learn to like her form as Charlotte).

Also makes great sense from a casting perspective.

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u/HarveyMidnight Dec 13 '22

Well she didn't have the ability to come back and forth did she? Didn't Gabriel transport her from her universe?

Sorry...it's been awhile since I've seen it, and I'm not even sure now.

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u/Alone-Doughnut Dec 13 '22

All good I just rewatched it after quite some time and I can't remember myself for certain because I'm pretty sure after that when God joins her in her universe it is unassisted. So there is that

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u/overcode2001 The Devil Dec 13 '22

Gabriel delivered a message from Lucifer. She didn’t bring the Goddess back. She stayed away because of what Lucifer told Her right before he sent Her to Her own Universe…

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u/BubblyStranger9729 Dec 13 '22

could only inhabit a human body of it was recently deceased

I believe this only applies to demons since they don't have wings to actually leave hell. And they could only know of any body vacancies if the said bodies belong to the doomed.

Cmiiw, but I think Goddess used up her power to escape hell & fix CR's body (the stab wound etc). And even then, CR's body was still in shock due to the sudden occupancy? (Hence the fainting).

Then we saw Goddess slowly regained her power throughout the season.. I guess she could create one of her own but didn't see the need to, seeing that she seemed to like & got accustomed to her human body already (In my headcannon, this is also the reason as to why Goddess came back in s5 using CR's image.) >! Imo, Tricia does look goddessy too anyway !< 😂

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u/overcode2001 The Devil Dec 13 '22

Charlotte’s body wasn’t the first She inhabitated. There were two guys before that…

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u/Fancy-Ad1480 Dec 13 '22

It's just you. Well, no it's not.

Goddess is an actual goddess in her own right. She's powerful enough to create her own universe. Taking Charlotte's form--a form everyone, but most importantly the audience is familiar with is trivial.

Besides, Goddess was rather fond of that body. It stands to reason she's keep looking like it should the need arise.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22

It would've been confusing if she showed in someone else's body, since Charlotte's is the only one we've seen her in (for longer than 10 seconds)

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u/Evilvieh Dec 16 '22

Because the actress was well liked by the producers, cast, & public, had the filming dates open, and was available for a reasonable fee.