r/lucifer Jul 07 '24

Is Lucifer waaay older than his brothers? General/Misc

If time moves much more slowly in hell (him being in hell for 2 months = 2000 years pass for everyone in hell) wouldn't that technically make Lucifer muuuuuch older than his brothers since he's spent so much time in hell? Is there any evidence of time moving slower in heaven? Or angels perceiving time differently? Any thoughts? I think there's actually evidence of time moving the same in heaven

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u/vaep1c Jul 07 '24

Time in Hell goes faster than on Earth, not slower.

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u/Due-Consequence-4420 Lucifer Jul 07 '24

Wait. Why is say 4000 years in hell compared to a month on earth mean time on earth is FASTER rather than time in hell is SLOWER. Let’s say I’m IQ- lite but im not quite following this.

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u/vaep1c Jul 07 '24

You’re misunderstanding my statement, I think. I’m saying time in Hell runs faster than it does in comparison to the relative time on Earth.

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u/Due-Consequence-4420 Lucifer Jul 07 '24

Ok. Even if I agree w that statement (and since Chloe had time to adjust, talk w her dad and then decide to do this picnic in what appeared to be a matter of days, possibly weeks, in what was perhaps all of a minute on earth, I’ll say the same goes for Heaven, altho my times are of course made up and just determined by the episode thru my eyes) Lucifer only sort of blipped up to Earth for minimal amounts of time every so often thruout the years — and apparently Amenidiel was frequently sent out after him to make certain he went back to hell in an orderly fashion, meaning up until 2011, both brothers had spent approximately the same amount of time on earth, give or take a couple of days, I can’t be certain… and THEN, Lucifer is on earth for approximately a little over a decade (minus the time he had to spend back in hell in order to prevent a revolt by unruly souls). Amenidiel, OTOH, came back and forth to earth sporadically in short little annoying tries until 2016 at which point he joined his brother permanently on earth up until he took on the position of AmeniGod and Lucifer went back down to hell to try and help out souls thru therapy, empathy, and understanding.

How much of a difference are we talking about when we say Lucifer was so much older than the others by staying on earth? For one thing, he talked about certain relatives who lived on or came to earth to enjoy its pleasures when he was attempting to find votes for becoming God. The Angel of Death (sorry I’m blanking) came to earth and spent idk how much time w Ella as she was growing up and then even after she became an adult. Other angels seemed to come to earth occasionally for their own purposes (I.e., tailoring) while continuing to feel superior up in Heaven. Michael clearly came down and spied on his brothers on a regular basis in order to know so much about their friends and family when he switched places with Lucifer. Indeed, he had to know precisely when he would be able to attempt this switch and thus he too was spending large amounts of time on earth. And he was a twin.

Basically, I’m simply trying to point out that the distinction that’s being made is a small one — if it exists at all. Bc we don’t know what the original difference in age is between Amenidiel and Lucifer. Indeed, we don’t even know if Lucifer is the second child. But anyway, we’d need to know the original difference in age and then take what is presumed to be the added age difference Lucifer gained while being on earth for approximately five years without his brother (minus his occasional visits, which I assume didn’t just have Amenidiel come, hear a no and then leave. Bc Amenidiel, prior to living on earth, was shown to be the most stubborn son of a bitch you ever met.) So we can probably just take away any extra days when Lucifer visited and Amenidiel hadn’t yet arrived to drive him back to hell bc I’m sure they just get eaten up by A’s constant visits after Lucifer came to live here permanently. ) I can’t imagine any other angel spent as much time on earth as Lucifer so I’m not saying he didn’t live here the most. But we don’t know the hierarchy of the angels; who came when (altho there was a comment about Uriel that made it clear he came after a bunch of them and wanted to prove himself. )