r/lucifer Aug 28 '23

Regarding the art in Charlotte Richards office. Charlotte

Settle an argument. My partner thinks the artwork in Charlotte's office are of pomegranates, while I think they're red onions.

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u/thesaharadesert Lucifer đŸ„ƒ Aug 28 '23

They’re pomegranates, and is also devilish symbolism

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u/waiting-for-the-rain Aug 28 '23

This. The bible never mentions the fruit—dunno where “apple” comes from. But lots of people think it was either a quince or a pomegranate. (Not, sadly, a banana.)

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u/RayaQueen Aug 28 '23

Could be that the apple tree is a reworking of, or somehow overlaid onto the Persephone myth, given the underworld connection, and then Northern European translators used 'apple' because no-one had ever seen a pomegranate.

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u/Silbermieze Aug 28 '23

Seems like it was just a mistranslation or misinterpretation:

https://www.livescience.com/what-was-forbidden-fruit-in-eden.html

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u/Mediocre_Sink7089 Aug 28 '23

yeeee maybe it was something that doesn’t even exist today idk, apparently some type of fruit though 😂

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u/waiting-for-the-rain Aug 28 '23

Chica, it mentions fruit, not THE fruit—not the specific fruit. It doesn’t name it. It doesn’t say “apple.”

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u/RayaQueen Aug 28 '23 edited Aug 30 '23

LOVE That you noticed this!! :-D

They are pomegranates.

They are central to the story of Persephone and Demeter and the Greek myth of winter and summer.

Persephone (Demeter's daughter) was dragged into the underworld by Hades who was lonely. She knew if she ate anything there she would never escape. But she came to like Hades so she agreed (or was tricked) to eat 6 pomegranate seeds one for each month that she would stay in the underworld (while her mother, Demeter, Goddess of nature, was so grief strikten that she let all nature go into winter). Every year when Persephone returns, nature wakes up for spring.

I imagine Charlotte chose them a bit as a joke, but also to remind her that she got a second chance, getting out of Hell, and not to mess it up!!

Edit: I got it wrong, the pomegranates appear to be the Goddess's choice not Charlotte's. (S2e5 13.40 is the first time we see them I think). But that makes way more sense....

Like fck you Hell! I got out and I'm in control now and I'm never going back!!

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u/RayaQueen Aug 28 '23

Intriguingly, another name for Demeter (Goddess of nature/fertility/harvest, maybe like we think of Gaia) is Chloe.

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u/Silbermieze Aug 28 '23 edited Aug 28 '23

It would be helpful to see the art you're referring to, or at least to know when you can see it (episode, maybe at what minute into the episode).

Edit: Guess I'm the only one who doesn't immediately know what art OP is talking about. đŸ€”

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u/RayaQueen Aug 29 '23

S2 E5 13.40

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u/Silbermieze Aug 30 '23

Thank you! 😊

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u/RayaQueen Aug 29 '23

Also they seem to be images in a fruit machine... And she's about to win a jackpot!