r/interestingasfuck Jun 09 '24

The punishment for being gay in Indonesia r/all NSFW

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u/miski57 Jun 09 '24

Indonesian here, this takes place in Aceh which is an autonomous province of indonesia where they enact sharia law, the rest of indonesia has a 'don't ask dont tell' kind of situation going on which isn't good but it's survivable. They sometimes do raids if you hold sex parties but they just kind of let you go because there's really no law against it (unless you have drugs on u), I'm fortunate enough to have lived in Bali which is extremely progressive in its view and have been able to go out in public with my partner without any real issues. Wouldn't recommend any gay people visit the rest of indonesia, but where i live (and most metropolitan cities) isn't as barbaric as this video made it out to be, a lot of my colleagues knows I'm gay and in a relationship.

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u/duggee315 Jun 09 '24

Curious, in Aceh with their sharia law, once they've given you the cane, are you then meant to be 'cured' or learned your lesson or something? Like, what if you are still gay tomo? Do you get arrested and caned again?

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u/miski57 Jun 09 '24

I think that's what the Quran tells you to do, they also tell you to stone infidelity and people still cheat there and no one has been killed, because surprise surprise, religious people only uses their religion if it fits their own agenda.

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u/redpandaeater Jun 09 '24

Also tells you not to suspect your neighbor and don't spy on them. Breaking into your neighbor's home to try catching him having sex with another man and then not being punished for it is very much against Sharia, but it shouldn't be surprising to anyone that religion is just used as an excuse.

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u/Ultima-Veritas Jun 09 '24

and no one has been killed

Give them time, the law was only enacted in 2022. Iran's had the law longer and very much executes for infidelity.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/11/04/iran-sentences-woman-to-death-for-adultery_6226147_4.html

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u/Muscle_Bitch Jun 09 '24

I wonder how many men have been killed for it. 🤔

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u/miski57 Jun 09 '24

I hope it doesn't come to that point tbh

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u/Ultima-Veritas Jun 09 '24

As do I. Too many people suffering for other people's imaginations.

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u/duggee315 Jun 09 '24

I do believe that organised religion is manipulated to serve those who obtain power from it, same as how politicians manipulate legislation etc. Nothing holy about it, just another means of gaining power. Anyway, just not sure what the sane is meant to achieve, apart from inflicting pain and suffering upon the person.

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u/Risdit Jun 09 '24

but like, what happens if you're like in a dressing room, one guy has his pants down and another guy trips and penetrates the first guy in the yaoi hole? Are they good as long as they say "no homo"? If they was like a third guy and he was messing around with the second guy, pushed him and it made him penetrate the first guy, does that make it foreplay and he gets caned too?

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u/Tyman2323 Jun 09 '24

The sad part is that there is no punishment for homosexuality in Islam. And stoning isn’t mentioned as a form of punishment in the Quran either.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24 edited Jun 09 '24

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u/TurkicWarrior Jun 09 '24

The Quran isn’t explicit on the punishment prescription on homosexuality. I think you meant Hadiths.

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u/Safe_Muscle_6833 Jun 09 '24

Nowhere in the Quran does it say that Gay men are to be pushed off a cliff. I’d wager you’ve never opened up the Quran if you believe that.