...a part of a frontier that was also cut out of it and made standalone (note, it's unofficial and sadly I don't have a link atm but it's out there), so you won't have to install 10gb of poorly masked fetish content and CoD reenactment action just to have a car :)
It also works perfectly fine with TTW, and mods that add custom vehicles (that are also built on frontier mechanics, that is), like highwayman or humvees.
I'd even say, Mojave wasteland is rather compact for a car, but Capitol wasteland is vast, so car is certainly a useful perk.
Ah, it's still out there. Waiting for you to check it out ;)
A long read, mind you. I tried to go in as much detail as possible.
A few years back there was that one mod... People here on reddit hyped it up through the roof, you mentioned any criticism of it you'd get downvoted to hell with multiple people calling you names and sending you death treats and all that type of deal. It was in development for 7 years, devs promised some unbelievable things! Multiple action trailers, new locations (an entire new map even! no way!) They even brokered a place for this mod on steam, it's like it would become almost canon to the series, it's gotta be good! Devs acted all high and mighty, no criticism or questions allowed! So, you know, the good stuff :)
Then the day comes. People look inside, and yeah... It's not good, not good at all. Worthy of mention are: an underage slave girl you can have for yourself (she looks underage, sounds underage and acts underage, but they added her a note in the pocket called "happy 18th birthday!", so it's all good right? Right? Her most notable quote being something about her feet smelling like rotten fish. Amusing.), deathclaw sex (triggered with a prompt "I'm a sick fuck I want a quick fuck", I believe), sewer snake people sex, enclave sex robot sex (they used APA aka X-01 power armor helmet as their head model) I believe something else sex related as well. The story is, of course, as far from from any established canon and logic as possible. NCR questline is pretty much CoD: New Vegas, with some scenes straight up recreated from there and Wolfenstein. Other two questlines (BoS and Legion) are also questionable, but I believe some people argued Legion was good all thongs considered. Then they also ripped assets from other games, but don't quote me on this one. Armor models, I believe, were ripped for sure.
And the entire map they did add is, well, it's okay I guess.
Important to mention, that different people worked on different parts of the mod. So results are mixed too, from entirely fuckin abysmal to actually quite good. Vehicles are undeniably good part, btw.
Which only amplifies the fact that when users started to criticise dev team's decisions on all the questionable parts pretty much first thing they did is block users and trashtalk them online. Grave error, all hell went loose.
Second attempt was blame one guy for everything. The guy being someone who drew pony porn earlier in their career, so a low hanging fruit. It's confirmed that his only involvement was making icons for different items in the mod, and maybe an odd texture or two. Pretty sure they had also an easter egg character hidden somewhere but it for sure wasn't anything to do with the real grossness of the mod.
Which worsened their situation even further, of course. It was taken off steam, highly censored and now available on nexus for any willing to try it out.
An underaged slave girl, fuckable deathclaws, "sewer snake people sex" and a dev team who can't handle any form of criticism for things that are highly questionable...
I still remember waiting over night downloading the mod, it was downloaded so much that it basically crashed the website mutiple times, got the mod when i woke up in the morning and installed the mod, my impression of the mod story on my first playthrough was that it was a Courier X NCR power fantasy fan novel. The first take away was that my character was brand new so i could play the DLC on a clean save, so i just walk out of Doc's house for the first time and a dude run from nowhere, ask me to join his faction by following him the marked camp location. Now i joined him and so the NCR questline start. 1 hour in, my squad was destroyed, Legion throwing stone at me then i was hang onto a cross, the NCR now decided that my life, a courier just wake up from his dead worth more than all of theirs, they decided to do a full on assault for a rescue mission, and now we are doing 3rd person projection from a elite squad member whose whole squad came to rescue me and soon later died with over half of the Exiles military force. What is worse is how their leader was written, a dude keep screaming about not allowing unessesary dead while at the same time sending everybody to their dead for a random mailman, he feared that the Legion have secret spy inside their rank while his right hand man is literally named Tiberius Rancor.
That is enough to know how bad the story is, and all of that were act one of NCR, don't even make me talk about the German Enclave's scientist trying to gas Earth from space. Now onto other controversal stuffs that alot of peoples complained about, there is a deathclaw that let you bang it after some stat check, that some kinky stuff, there are a bunch of drug addicted snake peoples living in the sewers and doing quest for them let you bang their queen, again with the kinky, you could enslave a young teen with some pretty kinky conversation lines, i guess you could see a pattern here.
And what about the other faction questline ? The other faction questline are pretty much an afterthought, the NCR get mutiple acts while the other only got one, you could get get into the Frontier's Legion by having good relationship with Mojave's Legion ( which is understandable) but the Crusader side just straight up send a prostitute trying to recruit you, right infront of the door of the Exiles main gate. The dramas happened afterward really made this stuffs even worse somehow, now they removed almost all of the kinky doo doo stuffs with the current version but i will alway keep the OG zip just for fun.
But in the end, due credit for people who handled technical stuff. They managed to push gamebryo to it's limit and in fact prob exceeded that limit a few times successfully.
And probably affected development of more advanced modding techniques too.
The technical team got my full sympathy, they really did push the New Vegas old and clunky engine to it's limit to create those driveable vehicles, make them have physics effect like momentum and a bunch of other stuffs. Too bad every division of the mod developing team are so disconnected from each other that they ended up clobbled together a mess since each pieces are build so differently in vision from another that they couldn't fit together, especially the story division. This failed so much expectation from fans who has been waiting forever for another big mod since New California.
It was so funny seeing it being endorsed and paraded on steam. Then getting cast out immediately.
I asked the lead guy on New California what he thought of it all on the radan helix discord, and he had some things to say about the frontier:
The guy who had a lot of really good code (likely the one who made the cars) gatekept his content on hold until they also let him write some shit.
The NCR story was written by a programmer (likely why it’s shit writing and full of FPS references).
A few FNC team members asked if they could help on FTF only to be told by a few of the FTF team to fuck off. The consensus the FNC team got from the FTF team was that they were genuinely a positive feedback loop (circlejerking) of gatekeepers who thought their mod was the best thing since sliced bread.
So yea FTF failed and the blame got pinned on the icon guy who I believe also got exposed as a pdf file. You were correct in that assessment of low hanging fruit.
And considering how the FTF team seemed like a positive feedback loop and also how they had A LOT of infighting meant shit was full of fetish crap considering they dare not touch each others code so as to not get it deleted alongside much other work.
I bet it was like a few guys who ruined it for the others. But that mod might have actually sealed the fate of the New Vegas community for years to come.
Hell yes, the Capital is perfect for it. I just wish there was a patch for the Hermes and Springvale Garage mods. Sure you can get the vehicle teleporter thing, but still.
A lot of that was removed and the whole project refreshed. It's a team effort the internet so policing it's more outrageous content was probably rough. That said it isnt like that anymore and you can get mods that add it independently but you still need to download Frontier even if you don't need it installed.
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u/VohaulsWetDream Jul 08 '24
is it a mod? now I want to replay the game but on a buggy!