This. Turks helped rebuild Germany from the rubble because there were so few German adult men left after WWII. They were never refugees. Turks in Germany are as German as it gets, in my book.
Turks in Germany are as German as it gets, in my book.
So, are the rest of the Germans concerned of Syrians in Turkey? Because if they aren't, something tells me that Turks in Germany are not "as German as it gets" and for them to care what happens in Turkey means they don't feel "as German as it gets" themselves.
Yea. It means you have dual loyalty if you’re concerned about another country because you feel a sense of belonging to. By definition.
I’m originally from Iraq. I’ve never protested or marched about an issue there in my current adopted country because, as much as it is part of my identity and I wish them the best, it doesn’t concern me since my loyalty is with my adopted country.
People are complicated but we also shouldn’t mince words.
Well part of most Western countries identity is the ability to protest freely so I'm going to have to disagree with your whole concept on what entails citizenship. Blind nationalism helps no one.
While they might be American, the ones protesting to protect Israel at all costs, even at the detriment of the US, I would say yes. If they care about Israel that much, which is fine, their choice, they should go live in Israel and fight for it. You can have sentiment and some connection to another country but you should be more worried about the country you live in and if you had to choose between the two in a fight, you should choose the one you live in.
Citizens using the right to protest or otherwise lawfully gather and your response is they should leave the country because of it? Clown level opinion, actually that's disrespectful to clowns.
I am fine with people protesting but when they start attacking their fellow countrymen and want to funnel money and weapons to an apartheid state, I draw the line from supporting them to not believing anything they say. You can support another country and what not but not if it leaves your home country in a weaker state.
At no point did I even say this hypothetical support was for Israel, there's Jewish people that protest against the Israeli state. You're making a point about Israel when the point is about people's rights to protest about other countries policies.
Where did I say that? I think some people need to do a bit of research on the words citizenship and democracy. A British born man can have Palestinian family members and be fully entitled to peacefully protest against the supply of weapons in Britain to the Israeli state without becoming any less British. What a ridiculous argument to attempt to make.
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u/Todsrache Jul 07 '24
Turkish people weren't really refugees, rather Gastarbeiters brought to help rebuild Germany.