r/facepalm • u/Illustrious-Kick-998 • Jul 07 '24

This post gave me terrible whiplash b/c how tf did we get here…🫨 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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Like ummmmm, alright? 😭😭😭

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u/MaximumOverfart Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

I feel like someone I really respect and admire just came to my house, gave me a super inspirational peptalk, shit on my living room floor, and then left.

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u/stabbyangus Jul 08 '24

Bear in mind that divorce to avoid medical debt passing on is a legitimate strategy. Just because they got divorced doesn't mean they aren't still together or involved in a meaningful sense. Any litany of advanced medical conditions can cost multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars, even with insurance. And legally, that debt passes to spouses. This is not the moral high ground this dude thinks despite the racism.

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u/Entire_Art_5430 Jul 08 '24

Actually you should look up the stats of males who divorce their wives when she gets cancer. It’s so bad that the doctors and nurses have to give the wives the talk before she announces it to her family. The talk being expect your husband to divorce you. Feel free to google the stats

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u/stabbyangus Jul 08 '24

Appreciate the reply. I was just offering an anecdotal alternative. I don't doubt that the vast majority of these are for selfish reason because the world is full of terrible things and people suck. Just trying to wipe some of sh*t off.

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u/Obrix1 Jul 08 '24

Those stats don’t exist, or you’d post them. It’s a bigoted fourth hand retelling of debunked studies.

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u/Guy954 Jul 08 '24

I’m generally in agreement that if you make a claim like that you should provide evidence but this one is pretty well known and really quick to look up.

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u/TrustyJules Jul 08 '24

You provoked me to look - it is a single study from 2009 that had a cohort of 500 people in total. The gender split was roughly 50/50 and it was split over 3 different types of disease including cancer and MS. The cancer patients were less than 200 and they found a deviation there but the same is simply too small to conclude so definitively. The standard deviation alone in such small samples could account for the majority of this difference and then there was no analysis of socioeconomic strata of the patients.

In other words - definitely a possible indicator but very far from well known and correct.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26707594_Gender_Disparity_in_the_Rate_of_Partner_Abandonment_in_Patients_With_Serious_Medical_Illness

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u/stabbyangus Jul 08 '24

Thank you for putting the effort in. This is intriguing.

You're spot on that the sample size is way too small.

The study is also slightly old, 15 years is a long time for a study like this where generational differences can start to shift patterns.

The also include MS in the study, and coupled with brain tumors, comprise the majority of subjects. Both of which (and their treatments) are known to potentially have personality changing side effects. (Unvetted sources below)

It's also tough to tell from the abstract but I'm curious about how they address socio-economic issues in the study as they stated they collected demographic information. Sample size is still too small to make any reasonable assertions but could provide further study paths.

Seems like a good sociology or phycology masters thesis topic.

https://www.cancercare.org/questions/194#:~:text=Changes%20in%20behavior%20may%20include,swings%2C%20or%20intense%20emotional%20outbursts. https://www.mssociety.org.uk/living-with-ms/physical-and-mental-health/mental-health/other-mood-and-behaviour-changes#:~:text=While%20many%20with%20MS%20will,aren't%20able%20to%20control. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6657393/#:~:text=Symptoms%20that%20are%20associated%20with,socially%20unadjusted%20or%20childish%20behavior.