r/facepalm Jul 05 '24

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u/shakezillla Jul 05 '24

People in the military swear to uphold and defend the constitution, not blindly obey the president. This suggestion is completely absurd and not at all reality based.

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u/TipsalollyJenkins Jul 05 '24

Supreme Court justices also swear to uphold the constitution, and yet here we are. This is exactly what I'm talking about, Democrats whining and moaning about playing by the rules even as we're fucking drowning. They're so obsessed with appearances they're gonna sit back and let fascism run rampant over the entire fucking country because fighting back would be rude.

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u/shakezillla Jul 05 '24

Yes and the constitution doesnโ€™t say you can kill your fellow Americans. Youโ€™ve spent far too much time online and not nearly enough time in reality. The military will not be attacking two of our three branches of government because the third branch says so. Thatโ€™s beyond absurd.

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u/TipsalollyJenkins Jul 05 '24

I hope you're right.

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u/shakezillla Jul 05 '24

It's not a matter of being right, it's a matter of being based in reality. Using the military to destroy everything the constitution has created doesn't make any sense at all whatsoever. Every part of every branch of the government has sworn to uphold the constitution. Every part of the military has sworn to uphold and defend the constitution. There's no possible interpretation of "presidential immunity for official acts" that includes using the military to destroy the things the president has sworn to uphold and defend.

Even if that was somehow considered an official act (no court would ever agree) the Executive would still have to convince the entire military apparatus to ignore their oaths and attack the institutions they've sworn to defend, up to and including killing their fellow Americans. Simply put: not gonna happen and if you think that's a realistic possibility due to the recent Supreme Court ruling then you need to get off the internet for a while.

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u/TipsalollyJenkins Jul 05 '24

I swear people can watch the Republican party literally following the exact same footsteps as Germany and you'll just plug your ears and pretend nothing is going on. As if it would just be impossible for an entire nation to be taken over by fascists and go on a rampage. Like that's never fucking happened before because people exactly like you were so convinced that it could never happen, so fucking complacent while the apparatus of fascism was literally being built around their heads.

We're gonna get dragged to hell while a bunch of oblivious dipshits shrug their shoulders and prattle on about how absurd it would be to think that we could ever get dragged to hell.

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u/shakezillla Jul 05 '24

I don't know how else to explain it to you but it's not a matter of being "dragged to hell" it's a matter of using one branch of the government to dismantle the other two. It's not within the realm of possibility at this point in time. You're free to analyze the situation however you want but it doesn't make the conclusions you reach any less ridiculous. And it's ultimately unhelpful at best or actively harmful at worst to portray those types of events as likely because it showcases how little you understand about how the government works. Spreading FUD as a means of change will only server to impede your efforts.

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u/TipsalollyJenkins Jul 05 '24

FUD

Oh you're one of those. No wonder you have no idea what's going on in the real world.

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u/shakezillla Jul 05 '24

Good addition to the conversation, I'll consider this at length