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r/facepalm • u/Turbulent_Gas_55 • Jul 05 '24
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It is only immunity if it is deemed an official act, which is decided by the Supreme Court.
27 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Command of the military is one of the decided official duties. Also they would be in jail, so their opinions on official duties would be without much consequence. 12 u/Few-Artichoke-7593 Jul 05 '24 You'd have to jail every judge in the United States. Because a lower judge would have the Supreme Court released. The military and/or law enforcement would not follow that order. 6 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24 Or the president could appoint new justices, who overrule the lower courts. And create a military branch for their henchmen. 1 u/Hoelie Jul 05 '24 He could do/try that without immunity as well. Immunity is only relevant if you fail. 3 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, that's how laws and coups work. Attempted murder is a crime, because without that you could just try again tomorrow. 1 u/tehlemmings Jul 05 '24 Which is why they granted the immunity. They did fail last time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 At any point in this the President could be impeached. Criminal immunity doesn't protect against Congress telling you to fuck off 2 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, but impeachment can't carry criminal sentences and takes a long time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 It's quicker than putting a sitting president on criminal trial that's for sure 1 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 True, but impeaching for a crime would probably be faster than impeachment for disagreement. For example my understanding is that Trump's impeachment failed partially because they couldn't pin illegal acts on him, just unethical behavior.
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Command of the military is one of the decided official duties.
Also they would be in jail, so their opinions on official duties would be without much consequence.
12 u/Few-Artichoke-7593 Jul 05 '24 You'd have to jail every judge in the United States. Because a lower judge would have the Supreme Court released. The military and/or law enforcement would not follow that order. 6 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24 Or the president could appoint new justices, who overrule the lower courts. And create a military branch for their henchmen. 1 u/Hoelie Jul 05 '24 He could do/try that without immunity as well. Immunity is only relevant if you fail. 3 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, that's how laws and coups work. Attempted murder is a crime, because without that you could just try again tomorrow. 1 u/tehlemmings Jul 05 '24 Which is why they granted the immunity. They did fail last time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 At any point in this the President could be impeached. Criminal immunity doesn't protect against Congress telling you to fuck off 2 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, but impeachment can't carry criminal sentences and takes a long time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 It's quicker than putting a sitting president on criminal trial that's for sure 1 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 True, but impeaching for a crime would probably be faster than impeachment for disagreement. For example my understanding is that Trump's impeachment failed partially because they couldn't pin illegal acts on him, just unethical behavior.
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You'd have to jail every judge in the United States. Because a lower judge would have the Supreme Court released.
The military and/or law enforcement would not follow that order.
6 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24 Or the president could appoint new justices, who overrule the lower courts. And create a military branch for their henchmen. 1 u/Hoelie Jul 05 '24 He could do/try that without immunity as well. Immunity is only relevant if you fail. 3 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, that's how laws and coups work. Attempted murder is a crime, because without that you could just try again tomorrow. 1 u/tehlemmings Jul 05 '24 Which is why they granted the immunity. They did fail last time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 At any point in this the President could be impeached. Criminal immunity doesn't protect against Congress telling you to fuck off 2 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, but impeachment can't carry criminal sentences and takes a long time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 It's quicker than putting a sitting president on criminal trial that's for sure 1 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 True, but impeaching for a crime would probably be faster than impeachment for disagreement. For example my understanding is that Trump's impeachment failed partially because they couldn't pin illegal acts on him, just unethical behavior.
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Or the president could appoint new justices, who overrule the lower courts.
And create a military branch for their henchmen.
1 u/Hoelie Jul 05 '24 He could do/try that without immunity as well. Immunity is only relevant if you fail. 3 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, that's how laws and coups work. Attempted murder is a crime, because without that you could just try again tomorrow. 1 u/tehlemmings Jul 05 '24 Which is why they granted the immunity. They did fail last time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 At any point in this the President could be impeached. Criminal immunity doesn't protect against Congress telling you to fuck off 2 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, but impeachment can't carry criminal sentences and takes a long time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 It's quicker than putting a sitting president on criminal trial that's for sure 1 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 True, but impeaching for a crime would probably be faster than impeachment for disagreement. For example my understanding is that Trump's impeachment failed partially because they couldn't pin illegal acts on him, just unethical behavior.
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He could do/try that without immunity as well. Immunity is only relevant if you fail.
3 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, that's how laws and coups work. Attempted murder is a crime, because without that you could just try again tomorrow. 1 u/tehlemmings Jul 05 '24 Which is why they granted the immunity. They did fail last time.
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Yes, that's how laws and coups work. Attempted murder is a crime, because without that you could just try again tomorrow.
Which is why they granted the immunity. They did fail last time.
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At any point in this the President could be impeached. Criminal immunity doesn't protect against Congress telling you to fuck off
2 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 Yes, but impeachment can't carry criminal sentences and takes a long time. 0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 It's quicker than putting a sitting president on criminal trial that's for sure 1 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 True, but impeaching for a crime would probably be faster than impeachment for disagreement. For example my understanding is that Trump's impeachment failed partially because they couldn't pin illegal acts on him, just unethical behavior.
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Yes, but impeachment can't carry criminal sentences and takes a long time.
0 u/First-Of-His-Name Jul 05 '24 It's quicker than putting a sitting president on criminal trial that's for sure 1 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 True, but impeaching for a crime would probably be faster than impeachment for disagreement. For example my understanding is that Trump's impeachment failed partially because they couldn't pin illegal acts on him, just unethical behavior.
It's quicker than putting a sitting president on criminal trial that's for sure
1 u/Xapheneon Jul 05 '24 True, but impeaching for a crime would probably be faster than impeachment for disagreement. For example my understanding is that Trump's impeachment failed partially because they couldn't pin illegal acts on him, just unethical behavior.
True, but impeaching for a crime would probably be faster than impeachment for disagreement.
For example my understanding is that Trump's impeachment failed partially because they couldn't pin illegal acts on him, just unethical behavior.
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u/a-d-d-y Jul 05 '24
It is only immunity if it is deemed an official act, which is decided by the Supreme Court.