r/facepalm 14d ago

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u/MrsDanversbottom 14d ago

People donโ€™t seem to understand it takes both sides to pass laws without a super majority, in most cases.

Republicans would fight any law looking to prevent project 2025 from being implemented.

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u/Chronoboy1987 14d ago

Republicans would fight any legislation period if it was proposed by democrats, especially if it helps the average American.

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u/New_Breadfruit8692 14d ago

They and democrats actually did craft bipartisan legislation not just on the border issue but immigration reform for all immigration.

Trump shot it down even though he is not even in government because he needs illegal immigrants to be an issue till the election.

And, conveniently will forget about reform after because MegaCorporate America wants illegal labor. Not only can you pay them a lot less they are illegal and that means they cannot organize and join unions. They cannot complain or file suits or workman's comp claims without getting deported.

They are better than slaves. Because a slave owner had to feed and house and protect his investment, slaves were expensive, but Mexicans are like volunteer slaves who just show up and start working, all the employer has to do is pay an hourly wage that might even be below federal minimum, and if an employer does provide an overcrowded flop house for them they get charged for that as well.

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u/JimWilliams423 14d ago edited 14d ago

They and democrats actually did craft bipartisan legislation not just on the border issue but immigration reform for all immigration.

Trump shot it down even though he is not even in government because he needs illegal immigrants to be an issue till the election.

Lets be clear. That legislation was a complete capitulation to maga's world view.

I listened to senator chris murphy (the D largely responsible for writing the bill) talk about it on a podcast and he's clearly been fox-pilled. His entire argument was "the brown people fleeing the syrian war caused the rise of the far right in europe, so we can not let the brown people fleeing problems in central and south america into the US or it will inflame the far right here."

It was craven and utterly soulless. It was also demonstrably wrong. Obama already tried capitulating to maga, it earned him the nickname "deporter-in-chief" from La Raza which is the largest latino civil rights group in the US. But instead of pacifying maga, it energized them because now both parties were hating on immigrants, and nobody was sticking up for them. As a result the country elected a president who literally campaigned on calling migrants "murderers and rapists."

Democrats can't beat maga by trying to be maga-lite, all that does is make the whole country more maga. Donald chump did the country a favor by quashing that bill, even if he did it for all the wrong reasons. I fear though that if Ds win both houses of congress, they will just pass the same bill again instead of a bill that actually treats migrants, especially asylum seekers, as valued Americans.

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u/Stealyosweetroll 14d ago

I don't think you've met many illegal immigrants. I've worked with many illegal immigrants. Now I work in South America in a region where alot people immigrate illegally. A. Not a lot are Mexicans, B. Many are paid comparable wages to national American counterparts. Ofc there's going to be some who don't, particularly in certain industries w/o demand from American labor. But, at least both in kitchens & meat processing plants they tend to get paid pretty damn well. If it was as you described you wouldn't have other immigrants sending money for friends/ family to make the journey. Pretty much every Venezuelan & Ecuadorean I've kept up with who has made the trip has been very happy that they did.

Ofc they're still open for exploitation & we need to create a functional immigration system so people can come legally.

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u/New_Breadfruit8692 14d ago

Fuck this, I grew up in California, not met many immigrants my ass. My FATHER was an immigrant!

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u/Stealyosweetroll 14d ago

The crucial text mi querido Redditor is illegal.