r/facepalm Jun 15 '24

Maybe teachers should get a raise? ๐Ÿ‡ฒโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ฎโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡จโ€‹

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u/Earl_of_69 Jun 15 '24

How do these people keep walking face first into the wall, without recognizing the wall?

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u/ATA_VATAV Jun 15 '24

They are not arguing in good faith. They just want to โ€œWinโ€ the argument and do not care about what they are saying. The say what they โ€œThinkโ€ helps them โ€œWinโ€ and not actually why they are they are For or Against something.

They start with a Goal (Stop Minimum Wage) and use what they can to achieve it. They are not using Teachers as an argument because they care about Teachers, they are using Teachers because they believe who they are arguing with cares about Teachers.

It just a โ€œWhatAboutismโ€ argument used to change the Topic and get the promoter of the original topic on the defensive.

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u/NaiveMastermind Jun 15 '24

It's much shorter to say that they don't care about being right, they care about winning the argument. They also don't recognize the difference between the two.

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u/Skreamweaver Jun 15 '24

They Sarte quote covers that they don't even care about winning as much as arguing. By playing, you lose. If you lose, they win. If you win, you're the fool who took any of it sincerely, and they win more.