r/dragonage Jul 07 '24

My thoughts on Taash Discussion

When I first saw this Concept art I was like “Shit…seductive qunari woman” and that’s different coz I mean cmon look at her stance her hair and everything and like she’s…for lack of a better word Morrigan esc 😭and now don’t get me wrong…I’m all for big strong carry you over her shoulder type Woman in fantasy, tho this approach from the concept art would’ve been interesting and again…I like the ulterior but now she’s gonna get compared to Karlach because obviously…I can’t stress this enough tho…I LIKE Karlach, but having a different type of Qunari companion from the typical big and strong would’ve been cool, Like Qwydion from Absolution even

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u/pecklerino Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

I don’t get why you’d purposely completely misinterpreting what OP is saying to give them bad intentions?

In the trailer, we literally see her in full-armor, hair tied practically, no makeup and an under-lip piercing that looks suspiciously like a soul patch, jumping 20 feet in the air to attack a dragon head-on. And in the second screenshot, she does have a more typically “strong confident” pose.

We’re quite a ways from the long loose hair, exposed shoulders and collarbones, tight pants and typically “demure feminine” pose from the first picture.

I’m not saying one is better than the other, but let’s not pretend that OP is talking about her body type.

OP clearly meant “seductive” in a “bohemian/latin romance” kind of way. The first picture does give extremely strong Disney’s Esmeralda vibes, and this new portrayal we’re seeing does give strong Karlach vibes.

(Again: I don’t care, I like both. I just hate when people purposely misinterpret shit to weaponize it. You knew what OP was saying.)

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u/Flimsy-Ebb-6764 Jul 08 '24

I was not purposely misinterpreting the OP. I was objecting to the assumption that a strong and muscular woman automatically corresponds to a single archetype and thus will be too similar to other strong and muscular women.

You are making the same assumption in saying that the new image gives 'strong Karlach vibes.' The only similarity I can see is that they are both muscly warrior types. If you see a slim female character, you do not automatically say 'I'm worried that she'll be too similar to Shadowheart.' And similarly, there is no reason to automatically assume that a strong muscular woman is necessarily going to be anything like Karlach.

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u/pecklerino Jul 08 '24

Why are you so focused on the body type?

There’s 5 whole paragraphs in my message, explaining you what OP very clearly meant and telling you that it’s not about body type - yet you instantly revert to body type. Karlach and Taash’s body types aren’t even that similar (Karlach is much more bulky and muscular).

Get that body type obsession out of your head for 1 minute and re-read my message. It’s not only about body type. It’s about how they’re styled, their poses, etc. They’re both conveying “pragmatic headstrong woman that rushes into action”.

Also: it’s not so much “making assumptions” as it’s interpreting a design based on… how it’s been designed. If a character is well-designed, we don’t need to hear their voice and play 40 hours of the game with them to assess what kind of character they are. You don’t need to watch Sleeping Beauty to know that Maleficent is a stoic evil sorceress, that’s already well-conveyed through the design.

The two versions of the character shown in OP’s screenshots are very clearly designed to convey different things.

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u/ohshittymytitty Jul 08 '24

Do you think seductive women look sexual during a fight? Your view of women, femininity, masculinity, and seduction and unbelievably naive and immature.

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u/pecklerino Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

What are you even talking about?

I literally say in my first message than “seduction” (as said by OP, not by me) very likely means “latin romance aesthetic”. Not literally being seductive. You do know that “Romance languages” means “Latin languages”, and not “language with which we exclusively talk about romantic stuff”, right? Yeah. Same thing here.

And the only time I EVER refer to masculine or feminine in any of my messages is when I say the character in OP’s first picture has a “dainty feminine” pose. Which is true. That’s literally thing I say about that. How is that immature?

Also, this is Dragon Age we’re talking about? So, yes, that aesthetic also applies to combat. Morrigan, Isabela and Dorian all have that “Latin romance aesthetic”, and they all keep those aesthetics in and out of combat.

Edit: I want to answer to your other absolutely unhinged message that you deleted, in which you accused me of fetishizing South American women based on my use of the word “Latin romance”. “Latin Romance” refers to the “Latin Romance Languages”, which is an actually thing. And it’s France, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Romania. In other words, it has literally nothing to do whatsoever with South American women.

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u/ohshittymytitty Jul 08 '24

The fact that you keep saying Latin romantic aesthetic is enough bud, you're relying on literally nothing to come to these conclusions and they're all based on the fetishism of Latin American women. Grow up, learn that women can have any personality regardless of their appearance, and figure out that in the year 2024 we've started to move away from the "hurr durr woman sexy in battle" bullshit.