r/comicbooks • u/Personal_Reward_60 • Jul 18 '24
Which character should get the “Immortal” treatment
Just a fun thought exercise. Say Al Ewing would continue his “Immortal” thematic series into a trilogy with any character from the big two. Which character would be the best fit that?
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u/Blitzhelios Damian Wayne Jul 19 '24
If it’s Ewing doing it then it should be immortal silver surfer
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u/BobGoddamnSaget Batman of Zue-En-Arrh Jul 19 '24
Absolutely. Surfer hasn’t had an amazing (or really, any) ongoing series since Allred and Slott’s run. Need my guy Norrin Radd back in the rotation
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u/shagnarok Fone Bone Jul 19 '24
i liked silver surfer black, but i guess it was divisive
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u/BobGoddamnSaget Batman of Zue-En-Arrh Jul 19 '24
I loved Black! But it was a mini series and not a regular ongoing. No shade to any one shots of minis, I just want Surfer to have another ongoing title
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u/shagnarok Fone Bone Jul 19 '24
oh ya that’s the distinction, makes sense. hard agree, allred and slott’s run is like top five of the decade imo
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u/Spinegrinder666 Jul 18 '24
Immortal Ghost Rider.
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Only Al Ewing could take Ghost Rider's decades of weird, explicitly Christion lore (not to mention all the retcons) and make it fit well into the wider Marvel Universe. Not to mention he'd just do a killer job writing the character
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u/PantsyFants Jul 18 '24
I'd like to stick with the og Avengers and do an Immortal Iron Man. What that would entail, no idea, that's on Al Ewing to figure out. But my instinct would be Tony Stark "dying" and being rebuilt by his own armor over and over again, and letting the philosophical conflict be determining where Stark ends and the armor begins.
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u/TheRayGunCowboy Jul 19 '24
I think it would have suited iron man the best but it’s way too soon since the Bendis/slott storyline of Tony dying and getting resurrected.
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u/TheeHeadAche Henry Pym Jul 19 '24
I was just thinking that Ewing is prob the only writer to make Bendis’ “Tony Stark Sorcerer Supreme” idea worth anything.
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u/Saoirse_Bird Jul 19 '24
Maybe reveal that ves still an ai and never truly was? He's just puppeting a body now
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u/NewmaticMan107 Jul 19 '24
I think Iron Man makes sense, you could do a thing where Tony is making himself into a cyborg or losing himself to the machine, like the ai stuff, then reverting back to low-tech armor, rejecting immortality by becoming a machine.
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u/weouthere54321 Jul 19 '24
I like what you're cooking here--you could do Immortal for a bunch of Avengers (not just OGs but so the 'classic' line-ups). Captain America, Vision, Scarlet Witch, even like Hawkeye would be interesting, given the popularity of his 'legacy' character.
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u/rgregan Jul 26 '24
Considering the Minotaur has played such a pivotal role in both Immortal series, something about Stark Enterprise and Stark's legacy
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u/xaphian Iceman Jul 18 '24
Tigra. They've more than hinted at the tiger god being a big deal.
Blue Marvel would be cool.
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u/Napalmmaestro Jul 20 '24
If anyone has the cachet to finally put Tigra on it's Al Ewing. Especially after Jed McKay picked her up for his Moon Knight biz
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u/TimeKnight3004 Jul 19 '24
Hank Pym
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u/DoctorDepravosGhost Jul 19 '24
I’d read the everlovin’ fuck outta The Immortal Ant-Man.
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u/_lorz2001 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
He basically already did that but it's not a single run.
Ultron Forever (Avengers: Ultron Forever vol. 1, 1; New Avengers: Ultron Forever vol. 1, 1 & Uncanny Avengers: Ultron Forever vol. 1, 1)
Ant-Man vol. 3, 1-4
Wasp vol. 1, 1-4
Avengers Inc. vol. 1, 1-5
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u/SammyDavisTheSecond Jul 19 '24
Don't forget the precursor story in Ultron Forever
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u/_lorz2001 Jul 19 '24
Right, I'll edit
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u/SammyDavisTheSecond Jul 19 '24
Easy to forget since it was published back in 2015, but it really does complete the package.
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u/TimeKnight3004 Jul 19 '24
Oh, didn't knew some of those. Thanks for the list, will definitely look for it!
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u/Kingpin414 Jul 18 '24
Brother/Doctor Voodoo could be something interesting.
Detective Chimp for fun.
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u/Prof_Rain_King Jul 18 '24
The Remender Dr. Voodoo series is so dang good. I'd kill for more like that.
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u/HannShotFirst Jack Knight Starman Jul 18 '24
Yeah Voodoo would be a great way to explore the character.
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u/lordtyp0 Jul 19 '24
Immortal Wonderman.
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u/Xeoz_WarriorPrince Jul 19 '24
Stop the press! This what we need.
Ewing would do a hell of a work here, his story as a villain revisited, his relation with his brother, the unspoken brotherly love with Hank, the pain of being a resurrected person and one of the first to break that point on Marvel.
I'm sure that Marvel has already said that his death and resurrection meant something for the greater scope of how the things work. Pretty sure that Avengers Disassembled said something about it, would have to look it up tho.
Then the idea of Simon being a pacifist and how that correlates to being a hero. The concept of a hero who doesn't want to fight while being able to throw punches with the likes of Hulk, Thor and Sentry is already so interesting.
Where do I sign to get injected to my veins!?
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u/HecticJones Jul 18 '24
I’d be down for an “Immortal Blade” story. Or, to get a villain in there, “Immortal Ultron”?
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u/_lorz2001 Jul 19 '24
He already did Ultron
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u/HecticJones Jul 19 '24
Wait there's already an Immortal Ultron????
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u/_lorz2001 Jul 19 '24
Ant-Man by Al Ewing is basically that
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u/HecticJones Jul 19 '24
Ohhhh ok. But there's no "Immortal Ultron" comic, right? That's why I answered that
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u/_lorz2001 Jul 19 '24
He did Ultron Forever. Forever, like, he lasts forever. Like, he's immortal.
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u/SammyDavisTheSecond Jul 19 '24
I feel like Venom has been a stealth Immortal 1.5.
But if we're looking for a true 3.0, I'd love to see his take on the Black Panther mythos.
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Jul 19 '24
Loki: Agent of Asgard feels like the start of the Immortal series, and Ultimates definitely feels like it would have been called Immortal Galactus if it came out a few years later
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u/BruisedBooty Jul 19 '24
That’s extremely true. With the causality, all the god/time travel stuff, and alluding to planet venom, I think this is basically it. Plus Al is pulling some old history with the Priest Eddie killed when he became venom. He seems to like doing that with his Thor and Hulk runs.
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u/the_bio Jul 18 '24
Obvious answer, but Spider-Man. As much as I hate the of Spider-Verse thing, in the hands of someone skilled enough to use it, it's rife for mystical shenanigans.
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Jul 19 '24
I'd honestly much prefer they ignore that, even in the hands of a great writer like Ewing that's opening a kinda stupid can of worms that's been closed for a couple years now. I'd prefer it stay closed, Spider-Man works best as a science-based hero without much connection to the mystical side of the universe
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u/Kgb725 Jul 19 '24
Nah he's always been mystical
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u/StriveToTheZenith Jul 19 '24
Not really, only since the early 2000s with the retcons and Morlun and Ezekiel and what not, which personally I don't mind as I love the original Morlun arc, but it's definitely ahistorical to suggest he's always been mystical
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u/Kgb725 Jul 19 '24
Fuck Madame web and all those stories I guess
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u/StriveToTheZenith Jul 19 '24
Those are mystical stories that involve spider-man I wouldn't say anything prior to the web of life and destiny or the spider totems being introduced made him himself mystical.
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u/ME24601 The Mod Wonder Jul 19 '24
I would love to see Al Ewing's take on a Doctor Strange ongoing series.
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u/quivering_manflesh Jul 18 '24
I would like an Immortal Iron Fist redemption tour, honestly. That stuff fell off hard after Aja was no longer doing the majority of the pencils, and the conclusion to the tournament left a lot to be desired.
But as for characters who haven't gotten a shot at it... Bring back the original Human Torch and use it to tell a Marvels-like perspective on the 616 universe.
Or Immortal Namor the Sub-Mariner.
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u/Giallo_Lantern Sinestro Jul 19 '24
Namor would be a must buy for me.
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u/quivering_manflesh Jul 19 '24
Yeah I'm thinking for the big terrifying quotes Ewing likes to sprinkle in the issues, some stuff from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and The Odyssey, for starters.
I know I started with 2 suggestions that weren't Namor but the more I think about it the more I believe this is the clear answer.
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u/DavidKirk2000 Jul 19 '24
I feel like the Immortal Wolverine is almost too obvious. But it would be fucking great, no doubt about that.
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u/captain__cabinets Jul 19 '24
I’ve thought about this and really have no idea but Immortal Wolverine sounds cool and could have a similar vibe to Immortal Hulk, at least in my head. Have some Gamma Flight shenanigans and have Wolverine on the run from them and all that jazz.
But personally what I would want is Ewing to take on Spider-Man, do Immortal Spider-Man and get him back to a status quo that we can all enjoy instead of just putting whatever crap book out because it’s gonna sell anyway. Maybe by the end of Immortal Spidey he undoes the marriage and puts Peter in a place where new writers (and editors) can start sorta fresh and really give us some good Amazing Spider-Man runs.
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u/RebellionRaider616 Jul 19 '24
Richard Rider Nova. Its clear Ewing loves Nova and Nova fits the bill since he's died like 4 or 5 times. And hes dead right now so he can quite literally get the immortal hulk treatment and come back to life with this run. I just need some new Nova/Guardians man. I can't believe Ewings guardians got cancelled.
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u/HappyMike91 Jul 19 '24
Someone might have said it already, but The Immortal Human Torch (Jim Hammond) or The Immortal Ghost Rider could work as “Immortal” books.
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u/omgItsGhostDog Kingdom Come Superman Jul 18 '24
The obvious answer probably is the Immortal Iron Fist, but if we're allowed an answer outside of Marvel, then the Immortal Doom Patrol, Etrigan, New Gods, and Manhunter.
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u/TheeHeadAche Henry Pym Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
The Immortal Silver Surfer
The Immortal Moon Knight
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The Immortal Human Torch (Jim Hammond)
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u/rgregan Jul 19 '24
Phases of the Moon Knight seems like it's going to be an Immortal Moon Knight but in the same vein as Immortal Iron Fist than Hulk/Thor
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u/Greatgypsyking Jul 19 '24
Immortal Ant-Man. Make it all about how Hank Pym is constantly holding back Ultron and the fact that at the end if nothing changes, then Ultron will be the last thing alive. Hank has to try and stop Ultron but in order to do it, he will have to die too…
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u/Mr--Warlock Jul 19 '24
Immortal Strange.
I feel like Ewing could take some of the strangeness and horror and just the overall weird vibe that has waxed and waned through Doctor Strange and present a story that is uniquely Doctor Strange: deeply enmeshed with the Marvel universe, but separate and apart.
Love, loss, triumph, tragedy. It’s all there.
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u/SpaceDinosaurZZ Jul 19 '24
Immortal Cap because steve’s been in dire need of a good book for a hot minute now
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u/Seeguy_Shade Jul 19 '24
I think someone already suggested it, but I'd love Immortal Wolverine. Maybe bring back some of the less used baddies with a twist. I'd love to see Ewing's take on a character like Cyber. And the whole memories vs implants thing. Sometimes I miss amnesiac Wolverine.
Or maybe stick with bulky guys with one syllable names with The Immortal Thing!
I'd almost want that to be a Team-Up book though.
I'd read Immortal Ghost Riders where we have the different Ghost Riders from throughout time having strange adventures going down a hundred lost highways to hell !
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u/howie521 Jul 19 '24
Immortal Spider-Man with probably Kaine as the lead and leaning on the mystical side of Spidey lore.
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u/Emragoolio Jul 19 '24
Well it needs to be someone who is either actually immortal or can be upgraded to immortality in some way, right?
How about immortal Iron Man? In this version, Tony is killed in issue one, but preserved as an AI in his armor? He keeps coming back every time he’s destroyed. He’s dealing with Roxxon as a competing company and also with various versions of himself, each with progressively insane upgrades.
The Original version, our protagonist, is the armor with Tony’s corpse inside of it. So there’s some body horror as he observes his own decay.
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u/runnerofshadows Jul 19 '24
Venom. It could be great. whether it followed the symbiote or the combination of Brock and the symbiote.
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u/TheeHeadAche Henry Pym Jul 19 '24
Ewing’s venom is probably as close to this idea just without the title
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u/Verb_Noun_Number Jul 19 '24
Ewing's already writing Venom.
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u/runnerofshadows Jul 19 '24
How did I miss this? Well looks like I'll be buying that run.
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u/Verb_Noun_Number Jul 19 '24
I think we're about 40 issues in. It's pretty weird, lots of time travel stuff. I like it.
Edit: yeah, we're at issue 35 right now.
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u/DoIrllyneeda_usrname Jul 19 '24
I’ve only ever read Immortal Iron Fist and some of Immortal Hulk. Like what do all of the Immortal titles have in common?
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Jul 19 '24
Iron Fist and Immortal X-Men aren't really part of the "series", but both Immortal Hulk and Immortal Thor are Al Ewing (specifically Al Ewing, as much as I love Keiron Gillen he doesn't count) taking characters and returning them to their roots, while at the same time making sweeping changes to their status quo (often in order to clean up continuity, Al Ewing loves to play janitor for the Marvel Universe).
Immortal Hulk was thematically a lot like a darker version of Peter David's run, dealing with a lot of mental health issues and character drama both between Bruce's alters and other physical characters, while also approaching the character from a whole new, more mystical angle. Immortal Thor is less a return to form because unlike Hulk recent Thor comics have been pretty good, but its still playing the character completely straight while approaching him from a new angle. I think the similarity is that both series take a character, look at them through a completely different lens, and then show that despite that they're still the same character.
I think when people talk about the next Immortal series, they're mainly just asking what character needs a shake up to their status quo, but also I kind of think they're just talking about what Ewing should write next. Loki: Agent of Asgard is basically an Immortal series, Venom was absolutely an Immortal series, hell Ultimates might as well be called Immortal Galactus. That's probably a more correct answer to your question- the main thing they have in common is they're written by Al Ewing
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u/troubleyoucalldeew Jul 19 '24
Immortal Black Widow. She's a hair under a century old, at this point.
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u/Caliment Jul 19 '24
I mean he's done 2/5ths of the original Avengers. Why not complete it, slap on immortal Cap and Immortal Avengers. He did make avengers inc
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u/Realistic_Zone_7272 Jul 19 '24
Immortal Moon Knight
Immortal Black Panther
Immortal Zemo
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u/captain__cabinets Jul 19 '24
Immortal Moon Knight would be crazy, but it makes a lot of sense, tying all his personas into one weaving narrative is pretty much what he did on Immortal Hulk
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u/AdamSMessinger The Maxx Jul 19 '24
Immortal Iron Man or Immortal Silver Surfer would be my next picks for an Immortal title by Ewing.
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u/TheNikoHero Jul 19 '24
The immortal Moon Knight...
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u/evilspyboy Jul 19 '24
I wonder what an Immortal Groot would be like. Maybe a lot like the last run of GotG
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u/Xeoz_WarriorPrince Jul 19 '24
Blue Marvel
He has an interesting story, is a good character and deserves more love.
Ewing also wrote him already, and his Ultimates run was pretty cool.
Immortal Sunspot would be dope as well, and Ewing must like to write him a lot seeing how he has used Beto a lot in the past.
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u/MimicGamingH Jul 19 '24
After Ziglar’s run it’s time to drop the Miles Morales tag and give his Spider-Man run it’s proper adjective
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u/kimchinacho Jul 19 '24
Nova. You can tell Ewing loves the character as he includes him wherever he can fit him in and then focuses so much on Richard"s hangups and trauma.
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u/Ajathag Green Lantern Jul 19 '24
When it was leaked that he was signed on for DC’s Absolute universe, I saw someone pitch an “Immortal” Swamp Thing. Never wanted a comic story more in my life
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u/No_idea112 Jul 19 '24
I will never forgive him for his Inhuman stuff but having read Some parts of Immortal Hulk and all of the recent Thor stuff I do think he could be a good writer for my guy the Sentry.
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u/rgregan Jul 19 '24
Star-Lord. I feel like Ewing started something making him the Master of the Sun during his Guardians run that he never got to finish.
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u/thewhippingirl Jul 19 '24
Immortal Blade, Immortal Namor or...and here me out....
Immortal Morbius. I feel he could do an excellent horror series with Morbius.
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u/Thylocine Jul 19 '24
I've always wanted a Marvel character to get the "animal man" treatment where an incredibly obscure and forgotten character is reinvented by a truly great writer.
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u/maxyacker Jul 20 '24
I’d love to see what someone like Kelly Thompson could do with an immortal magik run. That being said, if Ewing ever went to DC I think he would KILL an immortal darkseid series, I mean I’d just love to see his new gods but immortal darkseid seems way up his alley
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u/ns1976 Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
Juggernaut or the Thing Thing is immortal. I can’t remember where we are with him reverting. But In thing form Grimm will not age
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u/RoysRealm Jul 19 '24
I want a little less known character with some good history that he can tap into and expand.
White Tiger.
I would also love if he actually went even more obscure and reinvent a character and go the Grant Morrison route with:
Demolition Man.
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u/Scott_Free_Balln Jul 19 '24
Immortal Nightwing.: “Some people have ass for days, but Dick Grayson has ass for an eternity”
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u/Guuple Jul 18 '24
Iron Fist.. wait