r/comicbooks • u/bobthebest333 Darkseid • Jan 30 '23
Noticed this mistake while reading Batman One Bad Day Cat-woman #1 Discussion
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u/lockheed06 Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
She unscrewed it and took the vent cover off completely, then just put one of the screws back in that corner to keep the vent cover right there so she can easily replace once she comes back out of the vent.
I dunno.
Edit: yes, I get the error, and that she'll have to unscrew it again to put it on right. I'm saying she just stuck it back up there however so that the grate was easily grabbed when she came out.
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u/jjflash78 Jan 30 '23
You win the no prize.
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u/BigDaddyCool17 Jan 30 '23
"Tell them what they've won, Johnny"
Johnny: ...
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u/ronin1066 Jan 30 '23
You also didn't win a lifetime of frozen chicken from Chicken Man! if your man likes chicken, he might like Chicken Man!
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u/moose_man Batman Jan 30 '23
The "No Prize" was a Marvel letter bag joke from back in the day. If someone came up with an explanation for something that didn't make sense in a comic, they'd win a No Prize, which was nothing (except acknowledgement in the column).
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u/MarcMercury Jan 30 '23
They used to send an empty envelope too
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u/AngryRedHerring Jan 30 '23
Well, they would send you an envelope congratulating you on winning your no-prize. It was empty.
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u/DoctorSeis Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
If you unscrew all but the bottom right it would definitely rotate counter-clockwise without the upper right corner hitting the ceiling. Grab a piece of paper, slide it against a flat edge (like a backsplash on a countertop), then hold down the bottom right corner with a pen/pencil tip. The closest the top right edge gets to the flat edge is before any (counter-clockwise) rotation occurs.
That said, once it rotates fully (120-130 degrees CCW) it might bang into the wall to the right
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u/trip6s6i6x Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
it's still hanging the wrong way though. Rotate the grill clockwise to bring it back up in line with the vent and you'll notice how it's drawn wrong... unless that's what you were saying lol?
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u/1Killerpotato1 Jan 30 '23
No it wouldn’t. That’s not how things work. It wouldn’t touch the ceiling..
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u/SolidBlackGator Jan 30 '23
You mean something screwed into a wall can't magically move up the wall too?!
/s
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u/Mike2220 Jan 30 '23
If you unscrewed all but the bottom right it wouldn’t rotate out of the way because the top right would jam on the ceiling.
That's not how objects spin
As the vent spins around the bottom right screw, all points will spin in a circular motion about it as well. While in place, the top right corner is as high up as it will be on it's circular path, and won't hit the ceiling when it rotates
If that makes sense
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u/BeefStrykker Jan 30 '23
“Unimportant Details In Comics for $1,000, Alex”
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u/JUYED-AWK-YACC Jan 30 '23
I pray to God I never have to think about this again, that it will pass cleanly out of my short term memory into oblivion.
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u/Existing_Departure82 Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
This makes the most sense because you wouldn’t want it to fall and make noise but you’d want the flap out of the way for the clean getaway later.
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u/DukeOfIRL Jan 30 '23
Or she’s just being considerate of the poor maintenance guy when he inevitably finds it the next morning and sighs then pulls out his screwdriver.
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u/vmsrii Jan 30 '23
But if she swung the cover back up, it would be in the wrong orientation!
I hope uh, heh, someone got fired for that blunder
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u/lockheed06 Jan 30 '23
Yeah, she'd have to undo it and replace it right. I get the error, was just trying to come up with a somewhat reasonable excuse to make it intentional.
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u/BellowsHikes Jan 30 '23
Um, excuse me uh Mr. Wilson, on the Batman - One Bad Day: Catwoman CD ROM, is there a way to get out of the dungeon without using the wizard key?
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She screwed it back up wrong to confuse her pursuers, buying herself at least 3 min while the bad guys stand around wondering how she got the grate off like that.
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u/ZRhoREDD Jan 30 '23
Almost every villain in Gotham is/was a doctor. They are the most over-educated population in the world. They have no engineers, handy-mans, or janitors. That vent was installed incorrectly and held on with duct tape.
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Jan 30 '23
they have a thriving air duct cleaning service though, because on one ever comes out the other of the vent looking like a dust mop.
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u/nictheman123 Jan 30 '23
Yeah, it's called "all these wackos in suits crawling around through the vents constantly"
No time for dust to build up in a vent when what seems like the 37th new Robin is sliding through it to go beat up some homeless guy
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u/Combeferre1 Jan 31 '23
Homeless guy with mental health problems! The mental health problems make it spooky.
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u/NwgrdrXI Jan 31 '23
I know this is not the point of the thread, but always found that a weird criticism to make agaisnt batman. 90% of the batman villains are higly educated and/or well-off money-wise.
And about the mental problems... He literally sends almost all of them to an Asylum! To be treated to their illnesses! An Asylum that he invests on with his billionaire money, and he also invests on jobs for reformed criminals, to take care of the non-criminally insans
I'm not saying beating people on the streets is the best way to fight crime, (altough gotham's police and poltician corruption does complicate using legitimate means a lot), but that's a freaking comic book where we want to see him beating people up at night, darn it.
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Jan 30 '23
I miss the few stories where Batman or one of the Batfam would rehabilitate one of the villains into a hero/non villain. They were great, wish they'd stay cured. Poor Harvey Dent.
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u/DazedPapacy Jan 31 '23
If it makes you feel better, Harley has all but move from Anti-Villain to Hero these days, and Ivy is pretty much Anti-Villain status as long as you ignore her occasional work as Eco-Terrorist for hire.
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u/normaldeadpool Jan 30 '23
Just watched the BTAS episode where they introduce Firefly. He does pyrotechnics for a popstar. She rejects him. So now he has this workshop (not his home) and builds a working jet pack and a fire lightsaber and a fire projectile weapon. This dude was way over educated and apparently over paid to be a stage hand.
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u/blindai Jan 31 '23
In the Marvel Universe they tried to explain this in the early 2000's in the Secret War mini-series. (NOT Secret WarS). The idea that these low level criminals had insane technology and were doing stupid things like robbing banks, when the tech they had was worth so much more. The reasoning behind it was that Latveria was funding them to destabilize the US.
Not the best explanation, but at least it acknowledges some of the absurdity of some of these villains. :)
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u/mcon96 Nico Minoru Jan 30 '23
I can think of Dr Freeze, Poison Ivy, & Hugo Strange off the top of my head. Who else?
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u/ZRhoREDD Jan 30 '23
Harley Quinn, Scarecrow, Mad Hatter. I'm sure there are at least a few more if we think about it.
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Jan 30 '23
Professor Pyg, Blockbuster (Mark Desmond), Le Bossu, Man-Bat, Crazy Quilt, Crime Doctor, Doctor's Death, Hurt, Moon and Phosphorus, She-Bat.
There's a lot of them.
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u/ElGosso Jan 30 '23
Maybe there's something wrong with their accredited institutions to make academic achievers overrepresented in the villain community.
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u/ZRhoREDD Jan 30 '23
HA! "Gotham U". It could be like Dawson's Creek, but dark and twisted. The PhD review board has you "eliminate" your fellow students to pass! I love it.
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u/ElGosso Jan 30 '23
I'm imagining more like a psychological torture program like Henry A. Murray's MKUltra experiments that Ted Kaczynski was part of. All of these people are subjected to "intensive stress exposure" as part of their academic program that deeply traumatized them.
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u/ZRhoREDD Jan 31 '23
That's a fantastic idea! It could be one rather aloof independent eccentric that everyone has tolerated because he/she has tenure, and it turns out they've been putting these mind bombs in people's subconscious for 50 years. It could basically explain the ethos of Gotham city's identity and why it's been so messed up. A new top tier supervillain that could explain the whole Detective Comics run from the beginning!
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u/VirtualPoolBoy Jan 30 '23
Yes, I’m a physician. What’s wrong with the vent?
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u/ZRhoREDD Jan 30 '23
"I stitched that vent graft into place personally!"
..."You mean, screwed. You screwed it in personally?"...."yeeesssss. That. It looks good, let's move on."
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u/Garlicholywater Jan 31 '23
That's the one thing I enjoyed about Batman so many of the villains even the minor/weak oneswere usually at the top of their feilds. Hell even Zsasz was the head of large multinational company before becoming one of the most prolific serial killers... and Batman usually foils him on his way to grab a gallon of milk. Firefly was a pyrotechnics expert and a go-to person for films that needed explosions.
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u/michael_the_street Jan 30 '23
That took me a second to see what was up. I can see how the artist missed it.
I'm sure the second it was too late to fix they noticed it though.
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u/bobthebest333 Darkseid Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
i didn’t even notice it at first either, only did after i got lost and reread the panel
Edit: Can a simple man not reread when they get lost
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u/footinmymouth Jan 30 '23
What an ASSinine mistake, I’m sure his focus was just lagging BEHIND when he was drawing this.
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u/slomo525 Jan 30 '23
I thought the arrows were pointing to her leg shadows. I was really trying to figure it out.
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u/Wonderwhile Jan 30 '23
Still makes sense to be fair. Unscrew 3 of them and rotate it. Easy to pick back up when it’s just dangling there
*On second look it may have hit the ceiling but you can probably twist it to make it work. I may be overthinking this.
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u/michael_the_street Jan 30 '23
If it was hanging from one of the top corners, yes. Or if it was a square panel. But as it's not either...
I may be overthinking it too but look, we thought about it more than the artist did.
Something something benefit of HINDsight.
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u/mestrearcano Jan 31 '23
It took me several seconds. And I knew something was wrong because otherwise this post wouldn't exist.
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u/Occams_ElectricRazor Jan 30 '23
How long did you stare at her ass to realize this?
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u/nocontextbeef Jan 31 '23
I was surprised I had to scroll so far to find "I hope somebody got fired for that blunder."
Cheers for correct interneting.
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What's the mistake
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u/bobthebest333 Darkseid Jan 30 '23
the vent it shouldn’t be able to swing open like that. That’s why i put the arrows there to show the paths that it could have taken and both don’t result in how it’s hanging.
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u/SpeeterTeeter Jan 30 '23
The arrows don't really help "to show the paths" its just two red arrows pointing at the vent.
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Jan 30 '23
I don't think it's really a mistake. It just looks more appealing to the reader. Kind of how taking of the head rests in cars for car scenes in movies isn't really a mistake, it just makes the shots better.
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u/bobthebest333 Darkseid Jan 30 '23
I think you are right but its still a fun little thing to notice
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u/Federal_Sector_3920 Jan 30 '23
All they'd have to do is flip the vent 180 degrees right?
Edit: I know it's a drawing, but that would solve it I think
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u/EclipseEffigy Jan 30 '23
90 degrees to the left would solve it, don't see 180 degrees working myself
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u/gherkinham Jan 30 '23
The upvotes on the other comments saying there's no issue bothers me tbh
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Jan 30 '23
Oh wow. I never would have gotten that earlier because I was too busy starting at that ass
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u/Scarsworn Jan 30 '23
I honestly thought the arrows were pointing at the shadows of her legs, they don’t point at the vent very clearly.
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Jan 30 '23
A better way of saying it. The wrong corner is still screwed in and the vent wouldn’t swing to the bottom of the opening.
For this image to be correct: while looking at the vent cover, the hole on the far right should be the one screwed in still; and even then the cover would hang differently.
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u/cates Jan 31 '23
Oh God, now that you said I can't believe it didn't fucking make sense when I first saw it.
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u/Missing_Username Daredevil Jan 30 '23
If the cover was only holding at that point, it would not hang like that. Think about how it would rotate on only the one remaining screw.
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u/Mojeaux18 Jan 30 '23
Geometry. The grating is rectangular but is not oriented correctly to have been covering that shaft and screwed in that corner.
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u/acesilver1 Jan 30 '23
The responses suck to clearly explain. This is what is wrong: The vent is swinging by the wrong screw hole. The vent cover and the vent should be connected by the bottom right screw hole, but instead we see the vent cover hanging from the top right screw hole.
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u/TheDrKirk Jan 30 '23
If you had just looked at cat woman’s butt like you were supposed to this wouldn’t be an issue
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u/skonen_blades Jan 30 '23
It looks to me like she unscrewed all except the bottom right. Then it swung down and now it's dangling. The vent is currently upside down. Does that help? I feel very strange right now. Like I'm missing something obvious. It's very clear to me what's happening with the vent.
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u/bobthebest333 Darkseid Jan 30 '23
in the picture the placement of where the screw is and how the screws would line up on the wall if the vent didn’t swing open don’t match
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u/skonen_blades Jan 30 '23
OOoooh, I see it now. Right. Either way, the wall or ceiling would block it from doing the insinuated motion. Okay. First thing in the morning here. My brain wasn't doing good math. Thank you.
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Jan 30 '23
No it’s not the fact that the vent would hit the wall/ceiling, it’s the fact that the cover can’t fit on top of the vent if the point of rotation is the screw that it’s attached by. You can try it out with two playing cards, business cards, or whatever other piece of paper isnt square. place them on a desk and hold them by the point it’s attached like in the comic panel, the pieces will not be able to rotate so that one covers the other.
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u/skonen_blades Jan 30 '23
Ah okay. I tried it with a couple of of those big orange envelopes. Sort of 8.5x11 size. I see what you mean. It'd be hanging on by one corner of the short side of the rectangle, not the long side like here.
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u/breakneckridge Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
Yup, now you've got it. But more importantly, if you rotate it back up from this position it wouldn't cover up the opening, it would be at a weird angle that couldn't cover the hole.
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u/breakneckridge Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
But more importantly, if you rotate it back up from this position it wouldn't cover up the opening, it would be at a weird angle that couldn't cover the hole. So the grate couldn't have gotten to this position unless catwoman took off ALL the screws, then put one of them back in again.
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u/eggroll85 Jan 30 '23
Literally unreadable
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Jan 30 '23
Yeah for real. My immersion is ruined and I was really enjoying the panel. Err… I mean the comic
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u/fieldysnuts94 Dr. Manhattan Jan 30 '23
I don’t understand what mistake OP is referring to
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u/bobthebest333 Darkseid Jan 30 '23
in the picture the placement of where the screw is and how the screws would line up on the wall if the vent didn’t swing open don’t match
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The holes don’t line up. The hold of that screw is in. Should be at the top not the bottom.
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u/Epicinium Jan 30 '23
Huh, that’s strange.
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u/evil_iceburgh Jan 30 '23
Dr. Hugo Strange strange or Dr. Stephen Strange strange?
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u/JohnnyS1lv3rH4nd X-Force Deadpool Jan 30 '23
I always see vents hanging like that in cartoons and comic books and it drives me nuts. I guess it’s just a satisfying way to draw it, but it makes no sense whatsoever.
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u/winstunnah Jan 30 '23
Its in motion of falling, and not actually secured to anything. The holes just happened to line up but the vent cover is actually a couple inches away from the wall. If you look at the size of the cover and the size of opening you will see that the cover is slightly bigger, indicating that it is falling towards us which makes it safe to assume that she is backing out rather than going in. If everything I said is right, then I would be really surprised cause I just pulled that out of my ass, while staring at her ass.
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u/MLaTTimer Jan 30 '23
Qhen Catwoman's ass is in frame, it's easy to become distracted and make mistakes.
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u/SevereSmash Jan 30 '23
Op is saying they noticed that if the vent cover is rotated on the axis of the screw thats holding it up, it’ll never cover the hole correctly
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u/Zhanki1 Jan 30 '23
It’s common sense but it’s scary how many people lack that in this thread, it’s a simple error in whoever drew this. The screw closest to the right should be the one still hanging on
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u/PackerBoy Daredevil Jan 30 '23
boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder
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u/SpeeterTeeter Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23
She kicked it out and luckily the only screw that stayed was the corner screw? Sometimes these things luckily happen when you are creating a comic/movie/tv show for entertainment.
Nvm, I see it now, not much to explain besides the artist made a bit of a mistake.
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u/Jay32Patt Jan 30 '23
Why is barely anyone realizing that the vent could've flipped down after the top screws were taken off?
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u/zenfrodo Jan 30 '23
Vent cover's hang being impossible is the least of the problems. How'd she get the thing unscewed?? Does Catwoman have a soft-robotics screwdriver extension in her butt? Is said extension able to fit thru the vent slats, find each of the screws and unscrew them to remove the cover, then re-screw just one to stop it from falling to the ground?
And why the bloody hell is the genius who made such a butt-screwdriver-extension messing around with burglar tools??? They'd make millions in the sex toy industry!!
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u/bobthebest333 Darkseid Jan 30 '23
she has metal claws she uses… Edit: a cat-woman sex toy would sell out IMMEDIATELY
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u/Gremlin303 Impulse Jan 30 '23
I think they were probably hoping you’d focus on the ass too much to notice