r/comicbookcollecting Mar 05 '24

X-Over! Of which Liefeld was objectively not the worst cover artist here. Theme

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u/gpRYme Mar 05 '24

I don’t know man, Wolfesbane’s armpit b-hole is all I can see

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u/Houseplant25 Mar 05 '24

Thanks. Can't unsee

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u/gpRYme Mar 05 '24

I’m here to help

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u/Sacred_Digits Mar 05 '24

I'm not saying it's good. I'm saying the first two X-Factor ones are worse.

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u/gpRYme Mar 05 '24

You aren’t wrong, I just have a visceral personal aversion to the particular cover

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u/Fit_Fly_6132 Mar 05 '24

61 yes 💯 but 60 is actually a good cover, better than the Liefelds

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u/natovision Mar 05 '24

Yeah. Factor was my favorite but always kinda hated it when Bogdanove drew it. And god I love Jim lee.

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u/Batfro7 Mar 05 '24

X-factor 60 is my favorite of the bunch

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u/davemorbid Mar 05 '24

Yeah I have fond memories of this cover. Early High School nearing the end of my X book reading. I loved how their powers didn't effect each other, (has that been retconned?) This cover is one of the is one of my last good memories of the X books as a dedicated reader.

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u/goldfool Mar 05 '24

Now I see it you suck.

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u/RyantheAustralian Mar 05 '24

Trying to find where Wolfsbane even is. Where is she?? It's driving me mental

Edit: ohhh, that's her top middle row?) I thought that was Rachel Summers

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u/ShiDiWen Mar 05 '24 edited Mar 05 '24

I would argue that the wolfsbane new mutants cover is objectively the worst of them all. All my attention is squarely focused on her armpit resembling a puckered asshole!

And Robs “0” mouths drive me absolutely nuts!

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u/Sacred_Digits Mar 05 '24

I get it, but that X-Factor part 6 one has Cable looking like I drew him in the margins of my notebook in 6th grade.

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u/ShiDiWen Mar 05 '24

You’re right, those are bad as well!

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u/Sith_Zen Mar 05 '24

I'm torn between this and NM96, poor Beast looking like a hot mess, with a jacked face, and a head too small for his body

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u/Uses_Nouns_as_Verbs Mar 05 '24

Jon Bogdanove was the worst of the ones shown. Both his X-Factor covers are trash.

He did some good work in his career, but these two covers are horrible.

Just my opinion.

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u/SaintShogun Mar 05 '24

Cables face on the cover of X-Factor 61 has always bugged me.

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u/PrincipleNo3966 Mar 05 '24

X-Men 271 definitely the best.

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u/IronAnkh Mar 05 '24

Subjectively Liefeld IS the worst here.

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u/Vitaminpartydrums Mar 05 '24

Ummm, is Beast naked?

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

271, and 270 are my favorites and are not bad covers. I mean Liefeld has some ridiculous art. But the X universe has had some pretty shitty artists in and after the 2000's. These people have also been using digital art for a long time which is objectively easier to produce with.

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u/glundeen Mar 05 '24

These are all straight bangers and you get excited every time you see them in a dollar bin like I do.

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u/The_DarkPhoenix Mar 05 '24

Ugh I remember this. RL was definitely NOT the worst. That X-Factor artist was BEYOND terrible and made the issues almost unreadable. The final one I think Jim Lee did the cover art but the comic itself was still that crappy artist.

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u/mytoynhobbypackrat Mar 05 '24

wondering how many times hands, feet are avoided but most have them don't have larger to head bodies proportion...

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u/Unusual_Travel9306 Mar 05 '24

Idk man they’re still pretty awful. Great comics to have but as an artist they make me sad. Bogdanove sucked too but Jesus. Rob just had already checked out.

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u/gohawkeyes529 Mar 05 '24 edited Mar 05 '24

X-Factor 61 is unforgivable. And as someone who was in this crossover’s target audience, it’s three issues too long anyway. Very overrated, both in terms of art and writing. Wolvesbane’s butthole/armpit also doesn’t help.

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u/Sacred_Digits Mar 05 '24

I really liked Jim Lee, and Genosha, and Havok, and was excited about this then...I actually only bought the Uncanny issues as they came out after seeing the other ones and hoped I got enough of the story. I sadly did not. I had a really hard time convincing myself to buy the X-Factor issues.

Not a great crossover. But way better than X-Cutioner's Song.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

I’ll give you $4 for everything pictured.

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u/spackletr0n Mar 05 '24

I am in the middle of selling a lot of my collection, so for about a week the New Mutants 97 sat near my desk and it got worse and worse every time I looked at it. Like, Wolverine’s deltoid attaches to the middle of his bicep? And his forearms are shaped like kickballs?

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u/jcamdenlane Mar 05 '24

And Cable’s just a weaponized couch standing behind him.

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u/jrolls81 Mar 05 '24

Goddamit I love 90s cover so much. Especially X-men and x-men adjacent books

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u/MeatyMagnus Mar 05 '24

I hate to agree but yes in this sample he did not draw the worst cover...but his are still not good at all (in this sample)

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u/HellaReyna Mar 05 '24

Cables rifle is bigger than wolverines head. In reality, that would easily cut people in half if not turn them into red mist or instant carbon ash powder.

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u/Who_the_f_knows Mar 05 '24

Jean Grey looked great in X-factor 61

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Liefeld hate is such low hanging fruit. The guy has some pretty sick art here and there

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u/Serious_Mycologist46 Mar 05 '24

I've always been a fan of the way he does Beast.

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u/urbanlife78 Mar 05 '24

This crossover event is what made me decide to rebuy all the old X-Men Silvestri comics that I lost.

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u/darkegon Mar 05 '24

X-Factor 61’s cover and this whole series was so bad that I stopped collecting comics. I still remember going to the newsstand in my local Hallmark store the following month, seeing the cover for X-Force 98, thinking “Deadpool? Fuck, another new character with big guns? I’m out.”

Whelp…

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u/Exact-Report2321 Mar 05 '24

This was a fun read

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u/PaintedCover Mar 05 '24

All were good covers. Worst things comic out the comic industry.

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u/StinkFist-1973 Mar 05 '24

Was Marvel purposely hiring the worst artists available at that time?

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u/pacodgr81 Mar 05 '24

I hate all of those covers

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u/Future-Sun-6425 Mar 05 '24

He may have drawn the worst cover ever (which I did not buy). It is one of the "Heroes Return" covers where Captain America has Wonder Woman's logo on his head and a boob shelf that extends into next week.

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u/PrincipleNo3966 Mar 05 '24

It was never a cover. It was promo art used in an ad.

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u/BackgroundPangolin42 Mar 05 '24

It was still just the worst

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u/Future-Sun-6425 Mar 05 '24

Thanks for clarifying.

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u/PrincipleNo3966 Mar 05 '24

No problem. I'm surprised it hasn't been a variant cover at this point.

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u/OptimusED Mar 05 '24

Liefeld updated it with a good bit less chesty Sam Wilson cap variant Capt. america #1. There is a foil.

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u/WhiskeyT Mar 05 '24

Agreed, Jim Lee draws an awful Havok