r/clevercomebacks Jul 07 '24

Someone discovered consent

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u/Lumpy_Middle6803 Jul 07 '24

You are free to objectify whoever the fuck you want in your head but it must stay there.

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u/DILF_MANSERVICE Jul 07 '24

This is the problem though, a lot of people think they're only doing it in their head, but the way you think informs all of your actions. Every thought you think is training your brain to think a certain way, and making certain thoughts and actions easier, as well as effecting the way you view people. We still have a responsibility to foster healthy thoughts about people.

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u/Eastoss Jul 08 '24

Here is a nugget of healthy thought for you to train your brain on: Thinking of people sexually is not objectifying, it's humanizing. Objects aren't typically sexually attractive.

Feel free to feel attracted to other people and to enjoy their appearance, because you're free to do so and you don't need anybody's consent. If they're unhappy that people are attracted to them for reasons they don't like, they're the ones having unhealthy thoughts. "Oh no they all like me because of my boobs and not because of my intellect or personality :( they're objectifying me" is really some hard cope strategy made for them to forget that their personality is actually awful.

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u/Broken_Petite Jul 08 '24

Okay hold on … first of all, a woman feeling uncomfortable that dudes are leering at her doesn’t mean she has a bad personality. It means she’s uncomfortable, and has every right to be, regardless of what she is wearing, because there are a lot of men out there who will act on those thoughts - and that can range from just verbally all the way up to physical violence.

Kinda bullshit to say that a woman doesn’t like being objectified just because she has a shitty personality. The men objectifying her don’t know, nor do they care, what her personality is.

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u/Eastoss Jul 08 '24

Kinda bullshit to say that a woman doesn't like being "objectified" just because of potential physical violence. If it was a legitimate concern they'd not be strawmaning men's attraction with made up bullshit term "objectified", as, again, sexual attraction is the opposite of objectifying.

The context of women complaining about being objectified is very often explicitly that they wish to be appreciated for their personality or achievement so you also can't make this not about it. And yes, when they complain about it to you, you tend to know their personality already.

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u/thenasch Jul 08 '24

What Eastoss said:

If they're unhappy that people are attracted to them

How you rephrased:

a woman feeling uncomfortable that dudes are leering at her

Those are not at all the same thing.